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  • Originally posted by Hopetofly1 View Post
    Had an issue today........... These Admiral receivers are now starting to worry be and I will be taking it out of my F-18 ASAP. I was doing a left turn and I go to roll out and nothing........I got the control back a few seconds later and performed an emergency landing and got down safe but boy if a 24 dollar receiver crashed my 500 jet I would have been quite mad. Be aware of Admiral Receivers in your F-18. Everything was set up per manual as well and antennas were 90 degrees apart.
    It is just the wrong RX for this application. Diversity is not the way you want to go with a model like this. You want an actual RX and satellite set up for a plane like this. All of my fleet use Lemon RX and I used the Lemon version that you are using but with satellite in my 90mm F-15, 70mm F-16, FMS 80mm Hawk, FMS 1400mm P-51 and countless other planes with ZERO issues. When I tried to use the diversity set up it did not do nearly as well! Range tests were not good and it required a lot of fiddling to get right. I still didn't trust it though and went back to what I knew worked well. Get a satellite set up and get polarization done properly and you will have no issues at all. There are far too many things that can block the signal with the diversity set up.
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    • Originally posted by Lcacing View Post

      I had two back to back maiden crashes in my F18, I have other Freewing planes and never had issues, the first one lasted one flight, second flight coming in for landing nice and level, plane instantly pitched nose down. I chucked it as pilot error, new fuse, wings and nose retract. Replaced parts, checked all electronics, range test, all GG. Next maiden 30 sec into flight, planes rolls to the right, no control.
      First conclusion was signal loss, but of course, after crash inspection all electronics worked. Decided to test everything that survived separately. Did a range test with the worst set up scenario. Antennas facing the same direction, blocked by two 6s lipos, esc wires on top of rx. Tx antenna pointing away 180 from rx. All worked. Rx,esc,bec,edf, and most servos. No retracts or ECB used.
      Installed crashed rx on a flat foammie plane. Range test in flight Sat. Installed ESC/BEC and EDF unit on different plane. Flight test sat.
      Lastly, checked ECB on different plane. Bad ECB, the problem was intermittent and when it failed all surfaces lock up. Giving the impression of signal loss or brown out. But would come back and regain control. Since the signal was never lost there was no delay when ECB started working again.
      The problem would disappear after cycling the retracts. Sometimes the ECB would work fine.
      After all the testing, I realized that maybe my issues started from the first time I powered the model, the first time I cycled the retracts, all came down normal, coming up the right retract did not, I cycled them down again and by the time I walked to the other side, smoke. I disconnect the battery and removed the unit. Burned up retract. Open a ticket and got new unit from Motion. I documented with pictures and videos of all the testing and I opened another ticket with Motion. They stepped up and sent me a new F18 😃.
      I know have 6 flights on new bird, no issues. All stock electronics. Only the elevators are bypassed on ECB.

      The point is, check everything, maybe is not an rx issue, in my case the ECB would block all signal to all servos, causing the crash.

      Here is a video testing the ECB on a different plane. Acted as if it was a loss of signal, never had radio issues with this plane before.

      https://youtu.be/mEXdKkE3q0M
      Thanks for posting this! Always check everything over!! ALWAYS!! I have had issues with the box in my Mig-21 and never flew it with the box in there. I just went through the effort to change out all the connections to Y. No use in risking the model even if it were replaced by MotionRC. Its kinda out of Motions hands since its made by Freewing anyway. Motion will always take care of you on the customer service side though! But don't let that prevent you guys from doing your due diligence with testing!
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      • Originally posted by RCjetdude View Post
        Speed brake is now functional.

        Wow! You are an artiste! I've seen these on the real thing but I'm curious to hear from you what the model will do when you deploy it. Do you think it will upset the balance of the plane if deployed in the air?

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        • Originally posted by RCjetdude View Post

          Did you have a satellite on it ?
          Great question!

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          • I agree, always check everything!!! don’t assume that only because you buy the best equipment money can buy, failures won’t occur.
            When it comes to receivers, one has to find the proper rx for the application needed. I would think most people won’t use a park flyer rx on a giant scale model or a $200 rx in a park flyer.
            There are radio system that only use single receiver unit and both single and diversity antennas and work great.
            I don’t want to start a debate about what system is better than the other, they all have advantages and disadvantages. My personal reasoning is that, a system that needs a receiver plus satellites to work properly, does not give me a warm feeling and just adds another point of failure.



            Originally posted by gooniac33 View Post

            Thanks for posting this! Always check everything over!! ALWAYS!! I have had issues with the box in my Mig-21 and never flew it with the box in there. I just went through the effort to change out all the connections to Y. No use in risking the model even if it were replaced by MotionRC. Its kinda out of Motions hands since its made by Freewing anyway. Motion will always take care of you on the customer service side though! But don't let that prevent you guys from doing your due diligence with testing!

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            • First this is not an attack on you.

              If you think this please don't use Spektrum. To get the best reception you should use satellites. If you have a system that supports two satellites use two. And don't put them in bad places. Since we are talking F-18 my receiver is a 12ch Orange full range with the two long antennae. I have this under the floorboards with one antennae going aft and the other forward. Alone not the best setup, but I have two full range Spektrum brand satellites. One is under the starboard vertical stab and the other in the forward nose retract area forward of the wheels when retracted. Both in very good areas where there is no shading of my antennae from any direction. I'm careful about my placement and I have not had an issue since going to 2.4 years ago. Thousands of flights, hundreds of planes. Not one.

              Originally posted by Lcacing View Post
              My personal reasoning is that, a system that needs a receiver plus satellites to work properly, does not give me a warm feeling and just adds another point of failure.

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              • There is a possibility that the receiver is at fault, but i've used both types in my jets with no problem. However my flying buddy just got a new F18 BA and right away had control issues fortunately before he flew it for the first time. After thorough testing he determined that the problem was the aileron servos were bad right out of the box. After replacing them everything worked properly and he has flown it several times with no issues at all. This is a great looking plane and it flies very nicely and I'm going to order one soon. I would recommend that everyone who has purchased one be sure to check everything on the bench and do range checks before you fly. My friend and I together own 8 Freewing jets and have had very few quality issues with them but high production can result in QC issues, so make sure before you fly!

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                • Not it sure why I would think that?
                  The system I use does not require or support satellites, One rx with the antennas installed.
                  My post was more towards the comment that diversity antennas are not good enough on rx’.
                  The difference is more on how the system is design. If satellites are required then use them.
                  Ive also been fortunate to never had signal loss, even back in the FM days.

                  Just my opinion, not making assumption of actual performance of different systems. If it works, send it 😎

                  Originally posted by Evan D View Post
                  First this is not an attack on you.

                  If you think this please don't use Spektrum. To get the best reception you should use satellites. If you have a system that supports two satellites use two. And don't put them in bad places. Since we are talking F-18 my receiver is a 12ch Orange full range with the two long antennae. I have this under the floorboards with one antennae going aft and the other forward. Alone not the best setup, but I have two full range Spektrum brand satellites. One is under the starboard vertical stab and the other in the forward nose retract area forward of the wheels when retracted. Both in very good areas where there is no shading of my antennae from any direction. I'm careful about my placement and I have not had an issue since going to 2.4 years ago. Thousands of flights, hundreds of planes. Not one.

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                  • Originally posted by RCjetdude View Post
                    Speed brake is now functional.

                    That is simply Awesome! Nice work and please follow up with the painted photo :)

                    Thanks for sharing
                    Rich

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                    • Originally posted by Lcacing View Post
                      Not it sure why I would think that?
                      The system I use does not require or support satellites, One rx with the antennas installed.
                      My post was more towards the comment that diversity antennas are not good enough on rx’.
                      The difference is more on how the system is design. If satellites are required then use them.
                      Ive also been fortunate to never had signal loss, even back in the FM days.

                      Just my opinion, not making assumption of actual performance of different systems. If it works, send it 😎
                      A single set of two antennas installed properly is plenty good enough for full range on most radio systems, but definitely not Spektrum. Most people on these forums use Spektrum and thus thinks accordingly. Not saying anything for or against, radio systems are simply different.
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                      • Originally posted by xviper View Post
                        Wow! You are an artiste! I've seen these on the real thing but I'm curious to hear from you what the model will do when you deploy it. Do you think it will upset the balance of the plane if deployed in the air?
                        Good question and I am not sure but I will find out. Up high...very high.

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                        • Originally posted by RCjetdude View Post
                          Speed brake is now functional.

                          Unreal!The modifications you and others like Bobaroo, LB and many more are doing is simply out of this world. Freewing needs to hire you guys as consultants. I labor with some minor modifications and worry about taking off and landing and you guys are on a different planet, no, universe. It's just a real treat to see the things you are capable of, keep it up, I need all the heroes I can get. After you finish painting and setting up your livery, take it out and trim it up for perfect flight and then I'll send you my address where you can ship it to.
                          Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
                          Hangar: FlightLine-F4 Phantom, F-4 Blue Angel, 1600mm Corsair & Spitfire, Olive & Silver B-24, Stinger 90. Extreme Flight-Slick 60, 60" Extra 300 V2, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" MXS Green, 62" Demonstrator. FMS-1700mm P-51, Red Bull Corsair, Red Bull Edge. E-Flite-2-Beast 60's, P2 Bi-Plane, Yak 54, 2-P-51's, Apprentice, 2-Super Cubs w/Floats. Spare Parts galore.

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                          • Originally posted by RCjetdude View Post

                            That looks good. Sounds to me like a servo is going bad and it is affecting others. If you have a servo tester, start checking them. Also, pull your elevator servos and make sure the wires are not damaged.
                            Thank you,
                            I tired it with a different receiver and a servo tester with the same results. I had a pair of elevator servos from the FW F-15 and replaced both F-18 servos - problem is gone. Maybe there was a bad run of servos? Alpha did all that F-18 testing and they didn't have any problems - so, I don't know what caused this. The right flap ratcheting has disappeared - go figure.
                            Thank you for your inputs!

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                            • Ok, Ok, I am in ! Gray PNP .... Mystery Livery!
                              Attached Files
                              Current Hanger: Flight line 1600mm Spit ( Clipped ) , Durafly 109, PT-17, UMX Pitts, UMX Timber, Twisted Hobby Extra, Extreme Flight EDGE, FREEWING, A-4, Avanti, A-10 , F4. Byron T-6, Top Flite P-47, H9 Corsair, Ziroli Hellcat. Jeti DS16 Carbon /Spektrum DX8, Freewing F-14,Freewing F-22, Flightline F4U Corsair
                              Elite F-16

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                              • Originally posted by e4dragongunner View Post
                                Ok, Ok, I am in ! Gray PNP .... Mystery Livery!
                                E4DG, Not even a hint? I wouldn't say a thing to anyone... Best, LB
                                Captain: Got any ideas?
                                F/O: Actually not.
                                — Captain Chesley B 'Sully' Sullenberger III and F/O Jeff Skiles—

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                                • Oh Ok!
                                  Here you go !
                                  Attached Files
                                  Current Hanger: Flight line 1600mm Spit ( Clipped ) , Durafly 109, PT-17, UMX Pitts, UMX Timber, Twisted Hobby Extra, Extreme Flight EDGE, FREEWING, A-4, Avanti, A-10 , F4. Byron T-6, Top Flite P-47, H9 Corsair, Ziroli Hellcat. Jeti DS16 Carbon /Spektrum DX8, Freewing F-14,Freewing F-22, Flightline F4U Corsair
                                  Elite F-16

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                                  • Originally posted by TPS View Post

                                    Thank you,
                                    I tired it with a different receiver and a servo tester with the same results. I had a pair of elevator servos from the FW F-15 and replaced both F-18 servos - problem is gone. Maybe there was a bad run of servos? Alpha did all that F-18 testing and they didn't have any problems - so, I don't know what caused this. The right flap ratcheting has disappeared - go figure.
                                    Thank you for your inputs!
                                    Beautiful looking bird. I hope all is good with it now.

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                                    • Originally posted by RCjetdude View Post
                                      Speed brake is now functional.

                                      It will be interesting to see how it operates in the air, and how much down-elevator to compensate.

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                                      • Originally posted by e4dragongunner View Post
                                        Oh Ok!
                                        Here you go !
                                        Gonna be quite a few of those - completely understandable ❤️
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                                        • Shipping notification received :-) Yeah

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