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Originally posted by Gringotuerto View Post
Yes it is a great flier, but I still don't take it out nearly as much as the Avanti just because the Avanti is so easy to put in the truck. But I'm planning to take the A-10 out this weekend. Have you tried knife-edge with the A-10? I do that with the Avanti all the time, but if I recall correctly I had trouble getting this stable with the A-10 (although I only tried a couple times).
And I completely agree with you regarding the Avanti, it seems to almost prefer knife edge flight over the ho hum standard level flight. Still working on doing a flat figure 8 in knife edge with the Avanti but think I'll finish it soon if my nerves hold up and I have enough spare under shorts. Not sure I'll even attempt that with the A-10.Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
Hangar: FL/FW: Mig 29 "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet, F16 Wild Weasel, F4 Phantom & Blue Angel, 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, Olive B-24, Stinger 90, Red Avanti. Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 60" Extra 300 V2, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, MXS Green, & Demonstrator. FMS-1700mm P-51, Red Bull Corsair. E-Flite-70mm twin SU-30, Beast Bi-Plane 60", P2 Bi-Plane, P-51.
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Originally posted by Hugh Wiedman View PostGot another 7 flights in today on the A-10 along with 4 on one of my F-4's. Every time I fly the A-10, it just seems to fly better each time, which at this point is almost impossible to get better unless I let a decent pilot take her up for me! Would have got more but these 2 burned through my 18 RT 6250's and I refuse to waste time at the field charging, and I'm not going to buy any more batteries, 140 are enough (man, just think how many more actual planes I could of had instead).
Anyway, interesting observation here: I fly off grass so upgraded the nose to the trailing link. We had 14-18 mph winds directly down the runway, but neither of them seemed to give a hoot about gusty winds (thankfully not a crosswind though). With jets, I always start out the take-off run with full elevator to relieve pressure on the nose gear which helps it get up to speed quicker on grass, then slowly release elevator just before lift off leaving just enough up to lift off smoothly. Since we had a strong headwind, just to see what happened, I started a take-off run with NO up elevator. The result was that it drove the nose pressure down so much that about 1/2 way down the run, the trailing link was fully depressed. Started over with my normal take-off procedure and that ended that experiment!. The twin "exhaust " thrust is directly over the elevator surface (and if you test it out on the bench you can see and hear just how much thrust the elevators directly influence), that if you use full or even 1/2-3/4 up elevator on take off, it REALLY forces downward pressure on the tail, thus keeping the nose "light as a feather". Probably not needed as much on asphalt, but on grass, wow, what a difference.
The other thing I noticed was that for landing, downwind around 28-32% throttle, final glide after lining up runway reduced to 15% and then 8%, and about 4 feet off the runway throttle to 0 and then raise the nose before touchdown gets just a perfect somewhat high alpha landing with 0 bounce (actually have never experienced the bucking bronco effect yet ) resulting in a 10-15 foot roll out, at least on grass. Never thought I'd ever chop the throttle on a jet, but this is not your "grandmothers" EDF. Noticed GliderGuy on a post in the Mig 29 thread with almost the exact throttle positions for landing, so these both seem to be a little different than some of the others being a bit larger and able to glide easier without dropping like the proverbial rock.
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Originally posted by Hugh Wiedman View Post
For some lucky reason, I've found that knife edge with the A-10 is surprisingly easy, requiring almost minimal down elevator to keep it tracking straight. ...
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Hey what Colt just said, move the CG back and land on the mains every time, no problem with the bucking bronco. Bouncing on the nose gear is a common problem in a nose-heavy setup.Marc flies FW & FL: AL37, MiG-29, T45,F4, A4, A10, F104 70 and 90, P38, Dauntless SBD, Corsair, B17, B24, B26 & P61, Lipp.P19, ME262, Komets, Vampire, SeaVixen, FMS Tigercat, FOX Glider & Radian XL.
Rabid Models foamies, including my 8' B17 & 9' B36... and my Mud Ducks! www.rabidmodels.com
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Originally posted by Gringotuerto View Post
OK, I took the A-10 out last weekend. It was great as always! But I still didn't nail the knife edge very well. For one thing, those rudders are large, and it is very sensitive. I guess that is good, but it also means I can't just hold the stick all the way to one side like I do with the Avanti. Also I found it definitely pulled towards the canopy - as you say, needs some down elevator to track straight. Anyway, I'll get it eventually. I'm just happy every time I take it to the field and it comes home in the same condition, lol.Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
Hangar: FL/FW: Mig 29 "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet, F16 Wild Weasel, F4 Phantom & Blue Angel, 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, Olive B-24, Stinger 90, Red Avanti. Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 60" Extra 300 V2, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, MXS Green, & Demonstrator. FMS-1700mm P-51, Red Bull Corsair. E-Flite-70mm twin SU-30, Beast Bi-Plane 60", P2 Bi-Plane, P-51.
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Originally posted by Hugh Wiedman View Post
... with enough altitude for an OMG event where I went the wrong way on the rudder ...
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I took a video today using an Insta 360GO camera mounted on the outboard pylon. Unfortunately the video timed out before the landing, but its still pretty cool. The 360GO camera stabilizes the horizon which produces some pretty cool effects when rolling and doing other maneuvers. I recommend turning the sound OFF because of the wind noise.
Marc flies FW & FL: AL37, MiG-29, T45,F4, A4, A10, F104 70 and 90, P38, Dauntless SBD, Corsair, B17, B24, B26 & P61, Lipp.P19, ME262, Komets, Vampire, SeaVixen, FMS Tigercat, FOX Glider & Radian XL.
Rabid Models foamies, including my 8' B17 & 9' B36... and my Mud Ducks! www.rabidmodels.com
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Originally posted by themudduck View PostI took a video today using an Insta 360GO camera mounted on the outboard pylon. Unfortunately the video timed out before the landing, but its still pretty cool. The 360GO camera stabilizes the horizon which produces some pretty cool effects when rolling and doing other maneuvers. I recommend turning the sound OFF because of the wind noise.
Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
Hangar: FL/FW: Mig 29 "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet, F16 Wild Weasel, F4 Phantom & Blue Angel, 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, Olive B-24, Stinger 90, Red Avanti. Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 60" Extra 300 V2, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, MXS Green, & Demonstrator. FMS-1700mm P-51, Red Bull Corsair. E-Flite-70mm twin SU-30, Beast Bi-Plane 60", P2 Bi-Plane, P-51.
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Originally posted by Hugh Wiedman View Post
That is truly amazing. How did you attach it to the pylon and how long is the battery good for? Very unique perspective, one that to me looks much better than the other cameras. Saw it on Amazon, about $195 right? What medium is it saved on and what type of batteries? Thanks, sorry for all the questions, just looks really cool and if I get a camera, I would like something like that.
So this little camera comes with a small magnetic "docking station" that charges the camera and downloads the video. There are some electronics in the docking station and I guess that helps keep the camera small. I don't know for sure but the camera seems to use a capacitor instead of a battery, because it won't hold a full charge for more than a few days (I have to recharge it for each weekend). Maybe it just has a tiny battery!
The longest video it can take is 5 minutes (it won't record longer than that). You can take several 5-min videos in a row. It saves the videos internally and then you download it to your PC using the docking station. You can also use it with your phone (Iphone or Samsung). It uses proprietary software (free download) that you have to use, but then you can save it in a standard format. So it does have some limitations but it is very small and takes this really cool video. It has two modes - the stabilized mode and an "FPV" mode which looks exactly like a regular video. The magic is in the software, its takes a 360-degree video and when you play it back it looks like you see in my previous post. You can play it back in either mode - but the neat thing about the stabilized mode is that you can mount the camera in any position and the video will play back "upright". With the "FPV" mode the camera must be upright. (FPV mode is not FPV, that's just what they call it)
It will also take individual pics, and can be used to take "hyperlapse" videos (a string of pictures) but I got it for the video.
What I did was to mount the camera in a custom-made 3D-printed plastic pod that mounts on a FW weapons pylon.. (I haven't uploaded the new one to Thingiverse yet but I will).
Marc flies FW & FL: AL37, MiG-29, T45,F4, A4, A10, F104 70 and 90, P38, Dauntless SBD, Corsair, B17, B24, B26 & P61, Lipp.P19, ME262, Komets, Vampire, SeaVixen, FMS Tigercat, FOX Glider & Radian XL.
Rabid Models foamies, including my 8' B17 & 9' B36... and my Mud Ducks! www.rabidmodels.com
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Originally posted by xviper View Post^ That is so cool. It keeps the horizon level. Is that a setting on the camera? Can you turn that off and make it follow the roll?Marc flies FW & FL: AL37, MiG-29, T45,F4, A4, A10, F104 70 and 90, P38, Dauntless SBD, Corsair, B17, B24, B26 & P61, Lipp.P19, ME262, Komets, Vampire, SeaVixen, FMS Tigercat, FOX Glider & Radian XL.
Rabid Models foamies, including my 8' B17 & 9' B36... and my Mud Ducks! www.rabidmodels.com
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With good weather coming this weekend I hope to get some more video, that last one was the very first time using the wing "pod". I want to try it with the Phantom. Then I'll get the thing posted on Thingiverse.Marc flies FW & FL: AL37, MiG-29, T45,F4, A4, A10, F104 70 and 90, P38, Dauntless SBD, Corsair, B17, B24, B26 & P61, Lipp.P19, ME262, Komets, Vampire, SeaVixen, FMS Tigercat, FOX Glider & Radian XL.
Rabid Models foamies, including my 8' B17 & 9' B36... and my Mud Ducks! www.rabidmodels.com
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Originally posted by bbolz View PostMaidened the A10 yesterday and had an incident. Not a lot of damage but ran out of juice because I forgot to start the timer and the guys that were supporting me were no help and I forced the landing. Cost me a gear door. I was running two 6s 6000 Admirals and they are a bit heavy which resulted in nose heavy. Not a lot but needed some up trim. I'm going to go back to the Glacier 5300 6s's. A lot smaller battery. Anyway I needed a lot of left trim on aileron. More than normal in my opinion. That's without any ordinance on board. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what may cause the excessive right roll? I did fly most of the flight inadvertently on take off flap with no elevator mix. That may be one of the issues, but the flaps look to be centered pretty good on the ground. Going to try another "maiden" tomorrow on the revised CG and the smaller batteries. Hope I can remember to start the timer this time.
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Originally posted by Look ma, no trim View Post
Dee are you still printing? I've seen your page says you're no longer printing? Would like to lick up some things if you are..lmk!
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Originally posted by Dirty Dee View Post
Sorry, I am still not printing at the moment. There might be some folks on the forum that might be able to assist, so I'll let them voice it. Otherwise you might be able to post in the 3DP thread to see if there are any takers:
https://www.hobbysquawk.com/forum/th...ial-3dp-thread
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Question. Am I to understand that if I'd like to bypass the control box, I do not use the ribbons, and that I only use the box for the lighting and LG due to sequencing? If I were to go with a different lighting option, then I only use the control board for the gear?
3rd and last question, lol, what is the general consensus pertaining to the ESC's and servos in the pnp in regards to reliability? Yea or nea?
Thanks in advance for the help fellas!!
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Originally posted by Look ma, no trim View PostQuestion. Am I to understand that if I'd like to bypass the control box, I do not use the ribbons, and that I only use the box for the lighting and LG due to sequencing? If I were to go with a different lighting option, then I only use the control board for the gear?
3rd and last question, lol, what is the general consensus pertaining to the ESC's and servos in the pnp in regards to reliability? Yea or nea?
Thanks in advance for the help fellas!!
I've had no issues with the stock ESCs.
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