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  • All of the servo screws were very loose with no threadlock and would most likely have fallen out at some point in time. The glue seems to be silicone and does not hold all that well. The servos glued to the paint pulled right out. This should not be a problem since there is no "check" or good fix! QC is very poor for this one. I would not have pulled them out if the flap screw was not missing. Scary to think how many are this way with no good way to check. I used E6000 glue (Goop is good too.) to reattach the servos. Of the the glues that I have tested it is one of the few that actually bond to the foam AND hold well to plastic. Strut screws are tight and were probably done by a different person. I added thin ca to the wood screw holes, motor mounts and other areas. I added thin ca and clear tape to the hinge lines. Foam-Tac would probably be better for this since it will flex and ca will not. I have used thin ca before and it works well. The foam on each side will flex. So now I have a brand new out of the box airplane that is butchered. I hope it will fly!

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    • "It really cant be faulted much in my opinion"

      Except perhaps for those front gear doors that become banana shaped and never really close well.

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      • Well, had the first 3 awesome flights on this latest Avanti. On the first flight the left flap stuck down but worked fine for the next 2 flights. Using a different transmitter and a different type receiver. Guess the flap mystery still continues. No, I did not use delay, I don't even have it. I control the flaps manually with a slider. Oh, the glue that comes with the kit works good but do not use it for the canopy. The manual still shows the elevator linkage as 55mm but it is actually 60mm.

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        • Originally posted by Mach9 View Post
          Well, had the first 3 awesome flights on this latest Avanti. On the first flight the left flap stuck down but worked fine for the next 2 flights. Using a different transmitter and a different type receiver. Guess the flap mystery still continues. No, I did not use delay, I don't even have it. I control the flaps manually with a slider. Oh, the glue that comes with the kit works good but do not use it for the canopy. The manual still shows the elevator linkage as 55mm but it is actually 60mm.
          I'm not positive about how the slider works (electronically speaking), but I think it's not unlike a delay because it's not like throwing a switch where the position is reached instantly (no delay). Using a slider (to me) is like applying a delay via the flap menu. Even if you can move the slider as fast as you can, it's not like hitting a switch position.

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          • 500 flights and counting!

            Put the 500th flight on my Avanti today. It flies as well as it did when new and still looks terrific, too. This is a fantastic flying and extremely durable aircraft. The only problem I have had was a failed aileron servo which was considerate enough to fail on the ground rather than in flight.

            Each Sharpie mark in the photo below is a logged flight.

            Don
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            • Congrats! Awesome stuff!

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              • Originally posted by xviper View Post
                I'm not positive about how the slider works (electronically speaking), but I think it's not unlike a delay because it's not like throwing a switch where the position is reached instantly (no delay). Using a slider (to me) is like applying a delay via the flap menu. Even if you can move the slider as fast as you can, it's not like hitting a switch position.
                Sliders are exactly like knobs and sticks. You could actually "flap" the flaps if you wanted. LOL I am usually a bit aggressive and deploy them in about a second or less. Considering how many servos, cables, and connectors are used in various places of many airplanes, the most likely failure that could cause the same surface to fail would be the the main connector board. Otherwise the problem would show up all over the place.

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                • Wow , 500 !! That's great to see . I have maybe 50-ish
                  What do you use for battery packs ?

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                  • Originally posted by Mach9 View Post

                    Sliders are exactly like knobs and sticks. You could actually "flap" the flaps if you wanted. LOL I am usually a bit aggressive and deploy them in about a second or less. Considering how many servos, cables, and connectors are used in various places of many airplanes, the most likely failure that could cause the same surface to fail would be the the main connector board. Otherwise the problem would show up all over the place.
                    So, not like a switch. In the flap menu, the quickest deployment is zero seconds. The next delay is 0.1 second. Though short, it's still considered a "delay". My point is using a slider, no matter fast you think you can move it, it's still a delay and we don't really know at what time delay, is there a problem with the flaps. I have seen a problem with these flaps while using a delay while BOTH going through the control box and not going through the control box. Using no delay in either case, the problem did not show up.

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                    • Originally posted by xviper View Post
                      So, not like a switch. In the flap menu, the quickest deployment is zero seconds. The next delay is 0.1 second. Though short, it's still considered a "delay". My point is using a slider, no matter fast you think you can move it, it's still a delay and we don't really know at what time delay, is there a problem with the flaps. I have seen a problem with these flaps while using a delay while BOTH going through the control box and not going through the control box. Using no delay in either case, the problem did not show up.
                      So why don't both flap servos behave the same since they are on the same channel? The servos are the same and neither one is reversed.

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                      • Originally posted by Hemidoo View Post
                        Wow , 500 !! That's great to see . I have maybe 50-ish
                        What do you use for battery packs ?
                        Roaring Top or Admiral 5000's.

                        Don

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                        • Originally posted by Mach9 View Post

                          So why don't both flap servos behave the same since they are on the same channel? The servos are the same and neither one is reversed.
                          This, I can't say, however, we are making an assumption that all pairs of these servos are the same and I believe they are not. There may simply be enough differences in the composition of these components that given any number of these devices, that all of them may not be identical. One out of the bunch (or more) may respond just a little differently to RX pulses, perhaps enough to cause it (or them) to move properly or not. But now we're getting into the realm that maybe only an electronics type expert can dissect. For us laymen, I guess we can only use whatever explanation that will satisfy our own realities. For example, if you believe they are the "same" or because they are on the "same channel", let that be your rationale for why things don't work the way you believe they should. I'm satisfied to know that sometimes they work and sometimes they don't and for reasons that I can't fully explain.

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                          • Originally posted by dfordham View Post

                            Roaring Top or Admiral 5000's.

                            Don
                            Thanks !

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                            • Originally posted by dfordham View Post
                              500 flights and counting!

                              Put the 500th flight on my Avanti today. It flies as well as it did when new and still looks terrific, too. This is a fantastic flying and extremely durable aircraft. The only problem I have had was a failed aileron servo which was considerate enough to fail on the ground rather than in flight.

                              Each Sharpie mark in the photo below is a logged flight.

                              Don
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                              Congrats!!!! What a milestone to achieve I can't wait to get there with my Avanti too.

                              Regards,
                              Jim

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                              • Originally posted by Jimrc73 View Post

                                Congrats!!!! What a milestone to achieve I can't wait to get there with my Avanti too.

                                Regards,
                                Jim
                                Thanks. Good luck with yours. She's a great flyer, isn't she?

                                Don

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                                • Originally posted by dfordham View Post

                                  Thanks. Good luck with yours. She's a great flyer, isn't she?

                                  Don
                                  It sure is Don! Relaxing as far as EDFs go for sure. Thank you Don.

                                  Regards,
                                  Jim

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