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  • #61
    The paint definitely makes it look much better.

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    • #62
      Ran across what appears to be the factory for a bunch of our 1/16 scale models. Their website is under a "Made-in-China" wholesale company. It's "Shantou Tongde Craft Products". The Mato metal tanks are all listed there under their name, as well as the Tongde tanks and the metal upgrades. What does that mean to me? After CNY is over, I'll get my M60 running, maybe with metal gearing.

      https://stplane-tongde.en.made-in-ch...catalog-2.html
      Twenty six tanks, and not done yet!

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      • #63
        Originally posted by SoCalBobS View Post
        Ran across what appears to be the factory for a bunch of our 1/16 scale models. Their website is under a "Made-in-China" wholesale company. It's "Shantou Tongde Craft Products". The Mato metal tanks are all listed there under their name, as well as the Tongde tanks and the metal upgrades. What does that mean to me? After CNY is over, I'll get my M60 running, maybe with metal gearing.

        https://stplane-tongde.en.made-in-ch...catalog-2.html
        They are a bulk wholesaler. I think you have to place a minimum order of an unusable amount.

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        • #64
          Yeah, it's just a tidbit of information.
          Twenty six tanks, and not done yet!

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          • #65
            Originally posted by SoCalBobS View Post
            Ran across what appears to be the factory for a bunch of our 1/16 scale models. Their website is under a "Made-in-China" wholesale company. It's "Shantou Tongde Craft Products". The Mato metal tanks are all listed there under their name, as well as the Tongde tanks and the metal upgrades. What does that mean to me? After CNY is over, I'll get my M60 running, maybe with metal gearing.

            https://stplane-tongde.en.made-in-ch...catalog-2.html
            I hope that the buyer at MotionRC will follow up on this.

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            • #66
              Last night I talked to Carson of DKLMRC about the Tongde models, and my problems.

              For me, he's going to have the factory replace my gearboxes as soon as they resume production after CNY.

              For Tongde, Carson has become a "general agent partner" and an advisor. Rich & John, you'll appreciate this; he is convincing Tongde that at or above Heng Long hobby quality is a better plan than "toy-grade". Maybe you softened Coolbank up, and Carson affirmed it. David, I used you as an example, saying that a hobbyist is likely to have multiple tanks. I believe I used the number 100! as well as my 26. Metal upgrades are definitely coming after CNY.

              I wouldn't place any hope that Motion or Toucan will carry Tongde anytime soon. There'd have to be enough factory stock to fill a Connex before there is product in the US. The term "factory" is a little misleading. In both tanks and r/c airplanes, the factories sometimes consist of a small shop with a bunch of shelf racks and boxes of parts to be assembled sitting on the floor.
              Twenty six tanks, and not done yet!

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              • #67
                Thank you for the update!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by SoCalBobS View Post
                  I wouldn't place any hope that Toucan will carry Tongde anytime soon.
                  I'm of the opinion that Toucan & Henglong are joined at the hip, so yea I serously doubt it.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Zippersnapper View Post

                    I'm of the opinion that Toucan & Henglong are joined at the hip, so yea I seriously doubt it.
                    Toucan might in the future, they do carry other brands, Mato for instance. I had asked them if they would, back when we didn't have any seller. They said not for now. Again, there'd have to be a robust supply chain in place before any international retailer takes it on.
                    Twenty six tanks, and not done yet!

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                    • #70
                      Coolbank posted this, for you non-FB'ers:

                      A lot of words are distorted when they are spread all over the world. I think I must make a solemn explanation!
                      I assist Tongde Factory in developing new products because he has new themes, which is a good thing for fans. I started my own business with the support of the boss of Henglong, and it was never because Henglong's products were not good! Please don't misunderstand my original intention and cause me unnecessary trouble! At this price, what I want to do is to allow more enthusiasts to easily own their favorite tanks!
                      I will still maintain a very close cooperation with Henglong, and it is more likely to cooperate with other high-quality factories to develop various military remote control models. I believe this is not conflicting at all.


                      Also, he is asking if people would be interested in him developing an M3 or M5 Stuart. I took the liberty and said yes on everyone's behalf, and would also like to see an M4A3E8 and an M48.
                      Twenty six tanks, and not done yet!

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                      • #71
                        I would push the m48, the m5 would be hard to do because of its size, that’s why mato who made a prototype and displayed it as a China show, abandoned it.

                        Maybe Coolbank and TD will listen to Carson as he is in the same culture. Coolbank refused to listen to me and everything I warned him about has happened with your tank. He took my feedback to him as a threat and not as professional advice though I flat told him I wanted his product to succeed.

                        I hope TD updated their design and makes them better so that they will stand up to use and battling and not break. We will see.

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                        • #72
                          I'm not pushing anything, it's his company not mine. I'm sure he heard you, he just didn't agree with you at the time. Seems like he's finding his way.
                          Twenty six tanks, and not done yet!

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                          • #73
                            They usually find their way when a bunch of the product comes back due to poor quality and then sales drop. I don't know why these business owners can't grasp the concept that a reputation for quality is easy to make in the beginning, but a reputation for making crap is really hard to dismiss....err IE: Hooben.

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                            • #74
                              Talking with Carson of DKLMRC, he says he hasn't gotten any returns other than mine. It may be early yet, but I'm willing to reserve judgement until there are facts to base them on. I haven't yet heard of anyone else who has a Tongde, other than in some unboxing videos, so it's hard for me to understand why there is so much dismissiveness based on conjecture.
                              Twenty six tanks, and not done yet!

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                              • #75
                                Experience With tanks that have plastic gear transmissions and plastic sprockets, that’s why.
                                the rest of the model is more or less ok. But those two features have been the kiss of death for prior released tanks.
                                Until we see upgrades in metal released, to those of us that have been there done that with those items we aren’t interested because self destruction is nearly inevitable.
                                Now that it looks like metal upgrades may be coming it makes the TD tanks more viable.

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