Foam-Tac shelf life AFTER it has been opened.

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  • dkalwishky
    Warbird Lover

    • Sep 2015
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    • Des Moines, IA
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    #1

    Foam-Tac shelf life AFTER it has been opened.

    I've got a 2oz bottle of Foam-Tac that is about 2 years old, I opened it about a year ago. I was going to use it on my F-4 but it's so thick (more than I remember) I decided to use the glue that came with the plane.

    That got me to wondering what the shelf life is of Foam-Tac once it has been opened.

    What kind of life are you seeing with the glue?
  • OV10
    >>>Twins are 2X the Fun<<< (Squawk Moderator)

    • Sep 2014
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    • Owego, NY
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    #2
    DK..........the air in the bottle is what sets it up just like it does to the 2oz Gorilla white glue.
    That is the reason that I requested about a year ago that Motion acquire(which Tom did) the Dual 1oz tube pacs.
    Get the same amount at same price and no more worries about unusable wasted material. ;)
    Warbird Charlie
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    • dkalwishky
      Warbird Lover

      • Sep 2015
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      #3
      Yup, that’s what I’ll be buying next time I place an order.

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      • TiredIronGRB
        Post-Apocalyptic Tactical Consultant

        • Jan 2016
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        #4
        This is a major problem!

        If your Foam-Tac (greatest substance known to man) is going bad there's only one conclusion...

        You're not using enough Foam-Tac because you're not fixing enough planes because you're not crashing enough because you're not flying enough...so get to flying, crashing, fixing planes and using Foam-Tac:Cool:
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        • rifleman_btx
          me

          • Dec 2016
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          #5
          Hahaha TI, that's the greatest post known to man! 100% agree! LOL:):Cool:

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          • RRHandy
            Instructor Pilot

            • Mar 2016
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            #6
            I said this in other posts, I kept the cap and when I'm done with it, (use the two once for building) I squeeze the air out and put the cap back on and it is good to the very end. R.
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            • dkalwishky
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              • Sep 2015
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              #7
              I never squeezed the air out but I always put the cap back on. I’’be been told about the cap by several people, were talking about the red cap aren’’t we?

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              • RRHandy
                Instructor Pilot

                • Mar 2016
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                #8
                No, the cap that comes in it first, the red dispenser with white cap will leak air in and I have had it crack so I just put the other one on it after the squeeze, R.
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                • dkalwishky
                  Warbird Lover

                  • Sep 2015
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                  #9
                  I opened it a year ago so I don't remember what all was there, apparently that other cap was tossed it in the garbage. Today I ordered the two 1oz bottles and now that I know not to toss the other cap I won't :)

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                  • OV10
                    >>>Twins are 2X the Fun<<< (Squawk Moderator)

                    • Sep 2014
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by dkalwishky
                    I opened it a year ago so I don't remember what all was there, apparently that other cap was tossed it in the garbage. Today I ordered the two 1oz bottles and now that I know not to toss the other cap I won't :)
                    I'll lay a wager that you won't go back to the 2oz bottle :Smug:.The 1oz TUBES are the way to go unless your a volume user like George who orders it by the 5 gal pail. LOL
                    Warbird Charlie
                    HSD Skyraider FlightLine OV-10 FMS 1400: P-40B, P-51, F4U, F6F, T-28, P-40E, Pitts, 1700 F4U & F7F, FOX glider Freewing A-6, T-33, P-51 Dynam ME-262, Waco TF Giant P-47; ESM F7F-3 LX PBJ-1 EFL CZ T-28, C-150, 1500 P-51 & FW-190

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                    • TiredIronGRB
                      Post-Apocalyptic Tactical Consultant

                      • Jan 2016
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by OV10

                      I'll lay a wager that you won't go back to the 2oz bottle :Smug:.The 1oz TUBES are the way to go unless your a volume user like George who orders it by the 5 gal pail. LOL
                      We're going to see if we can get it on tap :P

                      I'll use a whole 2oz bottle in one hangar day, last Saturday was busy I build, fixed or setup eight planes.

                      Foam-Tac and Velcro go quickly around here, but it sure is a lot of fun:Cool:
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                      • RRHandy
                        Instructor Pilot

                        • Mar 2016
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                        #12
                        I use the 2oz when i need a large area to cover and I have tubes in my flight box and all three of my build tables,(always a plane to fix:Sweating:) so I don't have to look for it. R :Cool:
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                        • petefoss
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                          • Dec 2016
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                          #13
                          Air in the bottle is meaningless. Foam-tac does not cure. Its polymers dissolved in solvents. The thickening is solvent loss pure and simple. If you put the original cap back on with the foil liner it helps. I also keep the bottle in a coffee can with a cover to try to keep the solvent in the bottle. Seems to help I have also used foam safe kicker which is mostly hexane as a solvent.

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                          • mr.frankenjet
                            Eat, sleep, FLY FLY FLY !

                            • Jan 2016
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                            • Virginia, USA
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by petefoss
                            Air in the bottle is meaningless. Foam-tac does not cure. Its polymers dissolved in solvents. The thickening is solvent loss pure and simple. If you put the original cap back on with the foil liner it helps. I also keep the bottle in a coffee can with a cover to try to keep the solvent in the bottle. Seems to help I have also used foam safe kicker which is mostly hexane as a solvent.
                            +1 Gorilla is moisture cure, I store the bottles tip side down (get the small ones clear). This helps but it will still cure eventually. ( I had an unopened one harden up recently :o(

                            Yup the foam tac cures when the solvent evaporates, It now comes in small and smaller foil type tubes like the factory contact comes.I just got some, the old plastic clear bottle can clog the tip and be a pain to deal with.
                            rc flyin addict

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                            • BluesDragon
                              RC Planes Fanatic

                              • Feb 2018
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                              #15
                              I just stick a nail down the opening when done and cap it. On my next usage there's a bit of cured glue around the head of the nail. Pull the nail out and it's all good again. Although I'm pretty much getting back into after every other flight or so these days. Can't wait for those days it can sit on the shelf for two years without needing it! :pop
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                              • themudduck
                                -TMD- Foaming at the Mouth!

                                • Apr 2017
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by TiredIronGRB
                                This is a major problem!

                                If your Foam-Tac (greatest substance known to man) is going bad there's only one conclusion...

                                You're not using enough Foam-Tac because you're not fixing enough planes because you're crashing enough because you're not flying enough...so get to flying, crashing, fixing planes and using Foam-Tac:Cool:
                                <LIKE>
                                I'm going to put this on my website. And ebay.

                                By the way, the solvent is Tetrachloroethylene (found in brake cleaning spray). If your 2oz FT is thickened up, you can revive it by adding 1 DROP at a time. Don't try to add more to thin the Foam-Tac, yes it will make it thinner but it will destroy foam. So it only takes a drop or two. Yakety Yak. The solution is to use the Foam-Tac, don't try to store it. Crash more!
                                Marc flies FW & FL: AL37, MiG-29, T45,F4, A4, A10, F104 70 and 90, P38, Dauntless SBD, Corsair, B17, B24, B26 & P61, Lipp.P19, ME262, Komets, Vampire, SeaVixen, FMS Tigercat, FOX Glider & Radian XL.

                                Rabid Models foamies, including my 8' B17 & 9' B36... and my Mud Ducks! www.rabidmodels.com

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                                • TiredIronGRB
                                  Post-Apocalyptic Tactical Consultant

                                  • Jan 2016
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by themudduck

                                  <LIKE>
                                  I'm going to put this on my website. And ebay.

                                  By the way, the solvent is Tetrachloroethylene (found in brake cleaning spray). If your 2oz FT is thickened up, you can revive it by adding 1 DROP at a time. Don't try to add more to thin the Foam-Tac, yes it will make it thinner but it will destroy foam. So it only takes a drop or two. Yakety Yak. The solution is to use the Foam-Tac, don't try to store it. Crash more!
                                  I had to go back and edit it...I left out a "not":)
                                  TiredIron Aviation
                                  Tired Iron Military Vehicles

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                                  • themudduck
                                    -TMD- Foaming at the Mouth!

                                    • Apr 2017
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                                    #18
                                    Don't worry, I got you covered. Check ebay item# 352245582316, towards the end of the listing!
                                    Marc flies FW & FL: AL37, MiG-29, T45,F4, A4, A10, F104 70 and 90, P38, Dauntless SBD, Corsair, B17, B24, B26 & P61, Lipp.P19, ME262, Komets, Vampire, SeaVixen, FMS Tigercat, FOX Glider & Radian XL.

                                    Rabid Models foamies, including my 8' B17 & 9' B36... and my Mud Ducks! www.rabidmodels.com

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