Newer Admiral Lipos have different dimensions and weights... How come?

[Lon]

Nuts. I was going to order more 4000 pros for the A-10. But had change of heart and ordered two 5000 late last night...

[Alpha10]

We wanted to up the performance of our standard Admiral batteries. The new Admirals are a different size and weight because they are a completely new. The performance increase with the new Admiral batteries is noticeable. We were able to accomplish this without changing the price. The dimensions and weights did change a bit. Most a pretty close to the old Admirals with a few exceptions. We were able to take some weight out of the 6S 5000 but it had to be a little longer to accomplish this. I think you will all be very pleased with the performance and quality increase. The new line is better in every way. If you liked the old Admirals, you'll love the new Admirals.

So I was pumped to try my new 6s 5000 50c Admiral pack to compare it to my two year old previous Admirals this weekend...

After being told these were built to be even better AND even lighter by about 30g I was very excited to see the improvement in power.

Unfortunately, it just wasn't there :(

Not to mention that these new packs are SUPER LONG and far more difficult to move around for cg adjustments as the length limits how far you can shift them.

I also have a $65 HRB 6s 5000 50c pack that I've had for a year and while the new Admiral had a touch of an edge over my two-year old Admirals, it performed exactly the same as my HRB for half the price. :(

I wanted to believe the new line was improved as I've bought and supported Admiral for over two years and have easily spent over $1,200 on their packs, but this new line just didn't thrill.

The build quality DOES look very nice and they're very well put together, but it all comes down to punch and performance in the end and it was just "Ok".

I'm going to run a few more cycles and see if they hopefully improve, but my initial impressions have left me a little bummed.

Do these new packs need to be "Broken in?" I've never had to do that with the old Admirals... Just curious.

[Alpha10]

Another thought is that Motion could send an e-mail survey to all customers that have purchased Admiral batteries in the last year, something like Survey Monkey could be used.

AND a coupon code for loyal Admiral lipo customers to try out the new line would be nice. ; )

[dkalwishky]

Another thought is that Motion could send an e-mail survey to all customers that have purchased Admiral batteries in the last year, something like Survey Monkey could be used.

[Alpha10]

Seeing that this thread had had almost 150 views and a majority of the comments have been on balance lead length so here is what I see the favorable majority at on this subject.
It is a 4(Alpha10, DK, OV, Dewey) yes to 1(Beeg) no in favor of extending the balance lead length to a nominal 3 inches.
I would say that this is probably indicative of what results you would see if a poll was actually conducted.
I would ask Tom to just make it so without going thru a whole bunch of rigamarole with debates in making this product even better. ;)

I think a poll would be a great and informative idea.

[OV10]

Seeing that this thread has had almost 150 views and a majority of the comments have been on balance lead length so here is what I see the favorable majority at on this subject.
It is a 4(Alpha10, DK, OV, Dewey) yes to 1(Beeg) no in favor of extending the balance lead length to a nominal 3 inches.
I would say that this is probably indicative of what results you would see if a poll was actually conducted.
I would ask Tom to just make it so without going thru a whole bunch of rigamarole with debates in making this product even better. ;)

[Alpha10]

Im for another inch on the wires. I feel im putting undo stress on the leads when hooking up my batteries. Alpha i think it would greatly benefit and satisfy the customer's with a longer balance leed.

+1 Especially when you take in account the length you lose when using proper balance lead protectors as well.

This would be a great feature for the Admirals to have IMHO.

[Dewey H Lee]

Im for another inch on the wires. I feel im putting undo stress on the leads when hooking up my batteries. Alpha i think it would greatly benefit and satisfy the customer's with a longer balance leed.

[Tom]

What we have is an extension for the balance board. The battery plugs into the balance board, and extension plugs into the charger. The entire collection is here: https://www.motionrc.com/collections/balance-boards

[WintrSol]

We have balance wire extensions for use when charging which can be found here if needed. https://www.motionrc.com/collections...xtension-cable

I thought you did, but couldn't find them. Now I know that it is there, I kept searching, and found them under chargers. Of course, those won't fit a 4S battery very well.

[Alpha10]

We have balance wire extensions for use when charging which can be found here if needed. https://www.motionrc.com/collections...xtension-cable

I've seen them. It's just a burden and a shame when manufacturers release lipos with short balance leads that forces us to buy them.

My HRBs all come with at least 3" leads and are right around half the price. It'd just be nice to see a higher end line like the Admirals do the same.

[Tom]

We have balance wire extensions for use when charging which can be found here if needed. https://www.motionrc.com/collections...xtension-cable

[WintrSol]

Where can I buy these?

HobbyKing sells a variety, for charging in parallel, which can be used with a single battery, of course; example: https://hobbyking.com/en_us/jst-xh-p...-2xjst-xh.html
Or, a simple extension: https://hobbyking.com/en_us/jst-xh-4...10pcs-bag.html
There are other sellers; I found ones for single battery extension at my LHS.

[Alpha10]

Or, you could just add a balance extension cable to your charger or battery.

I'd rather not have to buy 10 of those when a manufacturer can make a simple adjustment to their specs and make everything easier for us para-chargers.

[dkalwishky]

Or, you could just add a balance extension cable to your charger or battery.

Where can I buy these?

[WintrSol]

Or, you could just add a balance extension cable to your charger or battery.

[Alpha10]

I'm all for adding another inch in length to say 3" total for the balance lead, helps in tucking the balance connector out of the way as well as hooking to the charger and the extra inch in wire ain't squat in the realm of weight.

My thoughts exactly. :)

[OV10]

I'm all for adding another inch in length to say 3" total for the balance lead, helps in tucking the balance connector out of the way as well as hooking to the charger and the extra inch in wire ain't squat in the realm of weight.

[Alpha10]

Balance leads are an easy change. If you guys don't like the balance lead length, let us know. I find it difficult to reach a good balance (no pun intended) between ease of charging and too much unneeded balance lead wire taking space in the battery compartment of the plane. BTW, you'll notice we changed the label design slightly. We wanted to do something to help people differentiate between the old and new Admiral packs.

Yes. Thankfully, the balance leads don't weigh much at all... Especially when you're talking about adding another inch or so.

I think a 3" balance lead length is ideal and not too long or short. Most of us parallel charge and this would really help us use our parallel boards more easily IMHO.

This would be great if the Admiral line could consistently accommodate this particular feature.

I've also gotta note how much I/WE appreciate the factory balance lead protector clips that you guys send with the lipos. That's a VERY nice factory feature and it's greatly appreciated. :)

[Beeg]

I'm all for the minimum length on main and balance lead length to reduce weight and minimize having to stuff wires as long as there is enough to work with.