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Horizon Hobby Carbon Cub S+ flew out of sight never to return
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This just happened to me last night. After about 8 flights on previous outings that went great, my son was flying the carbon cub S+ at the local soccer fields and completely lost all control. It almost appeared to hit the virtual fence and break through and keep going. Fortunately it was doing slow circles and maintaining level flight, but it was drifting out across a busy highway and beyond a tree line and fields. I had grabbed the radio and ran toward the plane and was doing anything I could think of to regain control (cycling the HP/AL button, flipping the switches, etc.) with no luck. Finally, in desperation I decided to turn my Dx6 radio off and back on again...Whew! the radio took back control and I was able to fly it back to the field and land. Not a great experience, and not something a new pilot would have been able to save. We did fly it again after that without mishap, but there is this lingering feeling of pending doom yet.
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Originally posted by F22trainer View Post
True, and you can still use the Beginner modes and you won’t have to wait for the GPS to realign / initialize each flight.
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Originally posted by Vtaylor1 View Post
Actually the GPS will realign even in Beginner. with it on even setting it up properly the plane will take off with absolutely no control from the controller. It did it twice to me the second time the plane never came back, I spoke to Horizon Hobby and something is an issue with the GPS. Its better to shut it off take it out or not use the plane.
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Originally posted by Frosty Flyer View PostI’m new here been flying mine about a week it has been going good and today Mine flew off never too be seen again
The best thing in wind conditions and not flying off is to shut virtual fence and the GPS off before flight or leaving the ground. The manual shows you how. The beginner, intermediate and expert switch is still active. They gave me a new one and I have been flying this one that way.
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I had one of those do the same thing last summer. First flight, everything felt good and was working great until I got a little to high and that was the end of that one. It flew off over a huge hardwood stand, ( like 10 or 12 square miles ) I'm totally and permanently disabled and walking through the woods is akin to walking on a mine field waiting to blow me off my feet. ( not going there today ) S**t happens. The best thing you can do is learn something from it.
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The issue is in how they programmed the "electronic fence" It hits the fence and auto-turns away from the fence. if it somehow got on the wrong side of the fence (stall, spin, wind and... its outside) there is no provision for getting it back.
Instead it should have been X distance from origin = turn toward point of origin.
That isn't a problem with the aircraft. Its the RX with its advanced autopilot. Change RX and it a very nice airplane.FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.
current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs
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Originally posted by MrVoyagerx View PostI'll be honest, I dont ubderstand howthis plane is still sold w all those issues. Am shocked it has not been discontinued and make a release once all those bugs are addresed.
There are numerous cautions, warnings and notes which are of significant importance. I’ve set up at least a half dozen, taught the owners the proper procedures as they are outlined in the manual, and answered numerous questions from newbies that “were not in the manual”. Then when I show them it’s the old “...so that’s what they meant” or “...how’d I miss that”.
Readers’ Digest version - if you cannot fly this airplane without the GPS functions, you should not attempt to fly it with them active, without the guidance of an informed Instructor.
Safety Fist
Takeoffs are optional- landings mandatory.
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Its a plane designed for the novice, and thats it is marketed. IMO programming should be bullet proof, and straight forward, three basic steps at max.
I have not had one, but have been flying glow and electric rollin into my 3rd yr. Have swapped engines on real cars, built rc cars those Tamiyas step by step and so on, you get the pic.
And although I do not have one of them, reading your explanation sounds a bit complicated and somewhat hard to visualize. What am sayin that if thats me, I cant imagine someone who has never had a plane before. Not saying that it is not, but the instructions should be A, B, C - 1,2,3 and up in the air to fly. Kind of when buying PCs or a tv, that it has the quick 5 min install, and then later the in depth job aid.
Or I dont know, some kind of in the ground gps check before it hits the sky, maybe it has it, the novice should know its in GPS fence BEFORE it hits the sky, not when performing tests in the air w a senior pilot.
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Originally posted by MrVoyagerx View PostIts a plane designed for the novice, and thats it is marketed. IMO programming should be bullet proof, and straight forward, three basic steps at max.
I have not had one, but have been flying glow and electric rollin into my 3rd yr. Have swapped engines on real cars, built rc cars those Tamiyas step by step and so on, you get the pic.
And although I do not have one of them, reading your explanation sounds a bit complicated and somewhat hard to visualize. What am sayin that if thats me, I cant imagine someone who has never had a plane before. Not saying that it is not, but the instructions should be A, B, C - 1,2,3 and up in the air to fly. Kind of when buying PCs or a tv, that it has the quick 5 min install, and then later the in depth job aid.
Or I dont know, some kind of in the ground gps check before it hits the sky, maybe it has it, the novice should know its in GPS fence BEFORE it hits the sky, not when performing tests in the air w a senior pilot.
People getting into this hobby need to understand that others have actually been killed by an out of control model. And now more than ever thanks to the reckless drone operators who have made certain the FAA has had to step in and regulate our hobby.
For every full size aircraft there is a POH or AFM (operating handbook or flight manual) and it is the only set of official instructions on how to operate that airplane - it has to be IN the airplane all the time and accessible to the pilot in flight. The pilot is also responsible for knowing everything about that airplane before he boards the aircraft with the intention of flight.
So you are correct - there should never be any surprises in flight, but just like full size airplanes - you have to be trained what to do when it happens, and it will happen.
Yup, those actions are covered in the manual - but usually the words “do not fly the aircraft” are summarily dismissed due to hazardous attitudes.
Sorry, rant over. I don’t like incidents or accidents with airplanes and I know that about 80% of the time it is the pilots fault.
Ya gotta be safe out there Pilots, and the first step is situation awareness, proper preflight and your limitations. that all of you stay safe this Labor Day weekend
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Originally posted by Frosty Flyer View PostWell I have to give it to horizon hobby they replaced my plane !! And they were great while doing it !
If you are saying to yourself ‘hope this goes all right’ as you add power - you’all probably lose another plane.
- hope is the road to disappointment...
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