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  • Bigger Flies Better...

    I get it, I really do.

    But man, I'd love to see something smaller. Any chance we'll see ever something smaller from Flightline? I'm thinking in the 900-1100mm range. I'd love to see something as well done as the new Corsair, but a bit smaller.

    Am I the only one?
    I hate that motorcycle they make me ride. I'm here to tell you, there ain't nothing in the world I hate more than that elephant under my ass.

    -Officer John Wintergreen-
    ElectraGlide in Blue, 1973

  • #2
    I'm also limited in the size of the planes for hangar space, size of our airfield and and space in my car for transport.
    I get the 2 latest releases (F-22 and Corsair) but both are just too big for me.

    Would love to see some smaller well detailed birds with led's and details as possible.

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    • #3
      What's the mantra I've mentioned before... "Something for everyone?'

      Yes, "Something for Everyone".

      ;)
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Alpha.MotionRC View Post
        What's the mantra I've mentioned before... "Something for everyone?'

        Yes, "Something for Everyone".

        ;)
        Looking forward to the next releases ;)

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        • #5
          For smaller Corsairs, there's still FMS and Eflite and of course, HobbyKing's Durafly if you can deal with the spotty quality.

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          • #6
            Myself and a flyer at our field was discussing his Parkzone Corsair (version 1) vs my Parkzone Corsair (version 2). Then he mentioned that he wanted to buy a larger Corsair but his son suggested that he buy an easier to handle airplane instead. So he bought the Eflite PT-17 instead. I mentioned to him that "everyone says that the bigger they are, the easier they fly". He just chuckled and the conversation ended. Why would the son make that suggestion if "the bigger they are, the easier they fly" is true?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Alpha.MotionRC View Post
              What's the mantra I've mentioned before... "Something for everyone?'

              Yes, "Something for Everyone".

              ;)
              Cool, good to hear! Standing by, and best of luck with the 1600mm Corsair release. I'm sure it'll be a hit!
              I hate that motorcycle they make me ride. I'm here to tell you, there ain't nothing in the world I hate more than that elephant under my ass.

              -Officer John Wintergreen-
              ElectraGlide in Blue, 1973

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              • #8
                For me bigger just flies so well a lot more stable and you can see it. They can also handle more wind and fly a little darker outside. Now that Horizon killed the 1400 and E-flite corsair this one will be well loved. As for Hobbyking they have no working phone and terrible CST. Let us get even bigger planes.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pilotguy View Post
                  Why would the son make that suggestion if "the bigger they are, the easier they fly" is true?
                  There are many reasons for this. "Truth" may not always apply to all people in all situations. The son may have felt (knowing how the dad flies) that the skills were still lacking and require more stick time. Going big may be easier to fly but also means more money. If the father had not arrived at a skill level where "easier" is still not going to work out well due to the skill level, a better approach would be to practice on a cheaper, more trainer like plane. Just because a bigger plane may be easier to fly, doesn't mean it's still not easy to crash if the experience level is not quite up there.
                  You want to crash a few smaller, cheaper models to gain experience or do you want to crash one big, pricey, easier to fly model?

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                  • #10
                    Point well understood about experience level. I know from my own experience that if I'm going to crash I'd rather it happen on a $99 airplane than a $200 airplane. Although my confidence takes an equal bruising regardless of $99 or $200.

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                    • #11
                      In the average first year or two of flying RC, one has many ups and downs in terms of confidence. While confidence can be knocked down repeatedly, it can be built back up again through success. The wallet, on the other hand, takes a bit more work to build back up. Big planes these days, can be upwards of $400.00 and way beyond. My big FMS Corsair (1700mm) flies extremely stable but it's in the $500.00 range. Although it's stable and easier to fly than some of my smaller warbirds, it is not immune to the occasional "boo boo". The less experience one has, the more "boo boos" can occur.

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                      • #12
                        Meh i find my nano skyhunter flys just as well in 20+ mph wind as anything else i fly. Even without a gyro
                         

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                        • #13
                          I like smaller planes, as they are easier to transport, have a tighter window they can operate in, and are so inexpensive that you can do anything you want, and not worry about the ground (or trees, power lines, etc) The 64mm Park Jet Toss and Boss series are a great example. I could take a plane and 4 batteries (for about 200$) out to just about any clearing and have a blast for about 30 minutes. While my 800mm Corsair was still alive, I used to try to keep it within a 100x100x100 foot virtual box in front of me, at full throttle (on 3S as well) and just crank the hell out of it. Soooo much fun.

                          In the end, there is a place and time for everything. Some days it is all 6S packs, some days all 3 and 4S but mostly, BOTH!!!

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                          • #14
                            I am in the same boat as Kloverzero, I get the most use out of my smaller planes. I can quickly toss one into the car and head the field to fly. No need to disassemble it, struggle to get it into the car without bumping anything, and then build it at the field. The investment is also much less, both in terms of plane and batteries.

                            The biggest downside to the smaller planes is operating in the wind, however, I don't fly my bigger planes in the wind either as I am too afraid of something happening. I get all the expense, storage issues, and transport problems of a big plane and none of the advantages of flying it in the wind. For me, the 44" E-flite/PZ/HZ planes are just wonderful. They fly great, easy to store, easy to transport, and affordable. As much as I would love to have a fleet of large planes, it just doesn't make sense in terms of cost, storage, and transport.

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                            • #15
                              Some examples for great (pun intended) small planes: P.15 Lippisch - Awesome power to weight ratio with unlimited vertical, good flying time with a superb flight envelope and does great in the wind without a gyro - Just got to love it.
                              The 980mm FMS Warbird Series: P-39 Airacobra - Nice details, metal gear, flaps and just a great flying plane.

                              Surely there are also downsides with small planes as there are with large planes. And I would straight away buy the F-4 Phantom II and/or the Mig-21 if we had large enough runway... but as said space is limited ;)
                              Btw. I would not mind paying more for the existing 70mm edf's if they would come with shock absorbing struts and led's... maybe like a deluxe version?

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                              • #16
                                Along with my 44" Parkzone corsair, I brought my Parkzone UMX P-51 to the flying field yesterday. I think the P-51 has about 12" wingspan and weighs about as much as a tissue. It got a bunch of smiles and I could here some fliers commenting while laughing in a positive way. So just seeing the little guy flying around (exactly like the big guys but in a smaller area) brought alot of joy to not only me but a bunch of others as well. And then ... one of the other flyers brought out his UMX B-25.

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                                • #17
                                  I will agree that everything else being equal larger planes fly better than a smaller one. I have several large airplanes in my fleet, however I find it's my 1200mm and 140mm planes that get the most flight time. For me its mostly a time issue. To fly the larger planes safely, I need to go to the club field, about 30 to 45 minutes away, then there is the required social time, and waiting for a turn to fly, ect. So unless I can take half a day or more it just not worth it. And with a busy work and family schedules its really hard to do. 90% of my flying is getting an hour or so to run over to a local soccer complex which is perfect for a 1200mm plane and I can fly my FMS 1400 mm Mustang there but bigger or faster planes are hard to keep away from flying over the houses or streets which I really hate to do.
                                  So yes I am really interested in more high quality 1200mm and maybe 1400mm planes. The Flightline 1200mm Spit is awesome in my opinion and get overshadowed by it big brother. The FW190 is also a great one. I would jump at a 1200mm birdcage Corsair from freewing.
                                  The 64mm hand launch jets are also a blast, I have three of them now.I can toss one of them in my very small car and get a couple of flights in on my way to work.

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                                  • #18
                                    Large models do fly better than the smaller ones. However, there can be a downside, not so easy to transport and store, they cost more. Small models are a lot of fun too. I have a flying buddy who flies nothing but small models and he considers anything with a wingspan greater than 40" large.

                                    Martin.--

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                                    • #19
                                      Its just a physics thing, the heavier an object the harder the force needed to redirect it from its forward motion. Obviously the bigger plane has more mass to move, but you sacrifice portability, and storage. The advent of gyros really evened the playing field in this respect so I'll stick with the smaller planes and continue to look forward to flying in any weather without fear.

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                                      • #20
                                        I've had quite a few of these UMX models. I've given all away but kept the little P-51 and baby Radian. They were all a lot of fun but I got a bit bored with them and it almost felt like I was turning into a bee keeper.

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