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  • Valkpilot
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    • Oct 2017
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    #2301
    Originally posted by AirHead
    With no disrespect to the SR71 Blackbird, perhaps a "white" version called the SR71 Whitebird. A twin 70mm or 80mm with 12 bladed fans. No black foam gatoring in the hot sun! It could be an anniversary edition....There Ya go!
    Perhaps there is a real-life compromise for the Blackbird fans to have their cake and fly it too. The cover story for the SR-71 was that it was to be an advanced interceptor under the designation of A-12. As you can see in the attached picture, it was silver with black trim. While not an expert, would the trim "gator" if it were an applique rather than paint?

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    • AirHead
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      • Dec 2016
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      #2302
      Originally posted by Valkpilot

      I take it that you opted for the laser rather than the conventional surgery. My mother just had the conventional version, and outside of reading, for the first time in nearly 70 years she doesn't need glasses.
      I had my real lens removed and a high tech plastic lens installed. I paid extra to get a lens that has focus from 20 inches to infinity. No glasses here either...

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      • gooniac33
        The Original Gooniac

        • Jun 2016
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        #2303
        Very pleased to see a really nice F-22 in the mix!! It is now on my list as well... now if we can just fill the Mig gap... 15, 17 or 19.... or even a Mig-29!!!! A good twin Mig-29 would be awesome...
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        • downwindleg
          Hobby Squawk intermediate pilot

          • Apr 2016
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          • Friday Harbor, Washington
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          #2304
          Hey while we're dreaming of older cool planes, what about a B-58 Hustler. Now that was a cool plane. Can't you just see those four edfs hanging out there on that delta wing? It was like a giant version of an F-102A Delta Dart......also very cool! Come on Alpha, don't you see a challenge there?

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          • lmramos44
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            • Mar 2014
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            #2305
            Every rc Jet Pilot that I know drools over the idea of a large scale F-100. There must be some difficult design issues with it or I am sure we would see more manufacturers offer it. Century jet offers one for a large edf if I recall correctly. Out of my budget. But I would have no problem paying a grand for a 105mm.

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            • Valkpilot
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              #2306
              Originally posted by downwindleg
              Hey while we're dreaming of older cool planes, what about a B-58 Hustler. Now that was a cool plane. Can't you just see those four edfs hanging out there on that delta wing? It was like a giant version of an F-102A Delta Dart......also very cool! Come on Alpha, don't you see a challenge there?
              I see the problems being caused by it's most noteworthy characteristics. First the four engines. Even using 28 mm edfs, the plane would be large. And then there's the landing gear. Because it was so spindly, it would be difficult to maintain the much demanded scale look, even with fixed gear. To make it financially viable, it would have to have non-scale gear, either fixed or retractable, or fixed scale gear, but require a hard surface runway.

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              • Valkpilot
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                #2307
                Originally posted by lmramos44
                Every rc Jet Pilot that I know drools over the idea of a large scale F-100. There must be some difficult design issues with it or I am sure we would see more manufacturers offer it. Century jet offers one for a large edf if I recall correctly. Out of my budget. But I would have no problem paying a grand for a 105mm.
                FlyFly used to offer one as well, but probably not the level of scale or quality that you want. And I too would like an F-100, but no greater than 70 mm due to reasons I've previously cited.

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                • Cws
                  still flyin

                  • May 2016
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                  #2308
                  they could probably make a b-58 hustler with only two fan units on the inboard ones.
                  they could make the landing gear shorter and leave out the fuel tank/bomb under the fuselage.
                  not sure why they shy away from the delta wing planes ,F 102A, F 106 etc.

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                  • Valkpilot
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                    #2309
                    Originally posted by Cws
                    they could probably make a b-58 hustler with only two fan units on the inboard ones.
                    they could make the landing gear shorter and leave out the fuel tank/bomb under the fuselage.
                    not sure why they shy away from the delta wing planes ,F 102A, F 106 etc.
                    But if you do that, the scale aircraft factions may reject it. And about the only reason I can think of there being a dearth of deltas is the slightly higher difficulty if RX setup, even though it eliminates 1-2 servos.
                    Personally, I would love to see the entire Century Series done in 64 or 70 mm, even the Voodoo.

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                    • tclaridge
                      Instructor Pilot

                      • Sep 2017
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                      #2310
                      Well, I would love to see larger scale EDF along the size of the A-10. The question is, will they sell enough for MotionRC to make a profit? My guess is that the market will not demand many jets if the cost goes above $600. For me, it would be an easy decision to pay $700 to $800 on a big EDF in super scale. I think the A-10 is the best value in the market, and would like to see more big twins.

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                      • JamesonC
                        MRC fanboy

                        • Feb 2017
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                        #2311
                        Well since I got my last wish for a large F22, I'll just throw it out there again that I'd love to see a 6s 70mm sport jet from Freewing too! :)

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                        • Valkpilot
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                          #2312
                          Originally posted by JamesonC
                          Well since I got my last wish for a large F22, I'll just throw it out there again that I'd love to see a 6s 70mm sport jet from Freewing too! :)
                          But what you truly want is a 1200 OV-10.:Devil:

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                          • Dual Prop Dave
                            Just another Prop Nut!

                            • May 2017
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                            #2313
                            Originally posted by Valkpilot

                            But what you truly want is a 1200 OV-10.:Devil:
                            Make that a 1600 to go along with the TC and P38!:Cool:

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                            • downwindleg
                              Hobby Squawk intermediate pilot

                              • Apr 2016
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                              #2314
                              Originally posted by tclaridge
                              Well, I would love to see larger scale EDF along the size of the A-10. The question is, will they sell enough for MotionRC to make a profit? My guess is that the market will not demand many jets if the cost goes above $600. For me, it would be an easy decision to pay $700 to $800 on a big EDF in super scale. I think the A-10 is the best value in the market, and would like to see more big twins.
                              I second that or even larger.:Cool:

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                              • Jhnybgd
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                                • Dec 2017
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                                #2315
                                I think my next purchase will be the HSD Super Viper 105mm
                                looks great and is a good size for grass

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                                • T-CAT
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                                  • Jan 2016
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                                  #2316
                                  I’d love to see Freewing in the future offer some foam “Turbine Ready ARF+” aircraft versions :):Cool:. It would include the conversion components like the metal pipe, high temp. foil tape, and some added bracing for the turbine and pipe (and maybe they could look into placement of the fuel tank in the design as well). With todays pricing on some turbines used for these 80-90mm EDF size aircraft, it is a reasonable expense to convert it to turbine in comparison to the expense of a PNP EDF Plus LiPo batteries needed for the equivalent flight time. Going the turbine route is obviously still quite a bit more expensive than the EDF equivalent at this point, but it’s getting better and more affordable. I would highly consider it and I plan to go that direction in the near future with a Freewing jet. This is just a random thought and something that would be fun to see. It could sell terribly or great, but that’s tough to tell. It’s just a wish :).

                                  Receiving potentially triple the flight time, fantastic power, great smell, amazing sound, and the overall fun factor of a turbine in this size range would be incredible. The amount of flights had before servicing the turbine would also be quite a bit, and some turbine servicing isn’t all that expensive, but would depend on the turbine used and location of the owner and servicing center.

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                                  • Bob Symes
                                    Warbird Tragic

                                    • Dec 2016
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                                    #2317
                                    Hoot and Foil have arrived, what’s next? Five eyes! Hopefully a twin prop warbird from FL?

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                                    • wolpertinger
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                                      • Dec 2016
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                                      #2318
                                      Originally posted by T-CAT
                                      I’d love to see Freewing in the future offer some foam “Turbine Ready ARF+” aircraft versions :):Cool:. It would include the conversion components like the metal pipe, high temp. foil tape, and some added bracing for the turbine and pipe (and maybe they could look into placement of the fuel tank in the design as well). With todays pricing on some turbines used for these 80-90mm EDF size aircraft, it is a reasonable expense to convert it to turbine in comparison to the expense of a PNP EDF Plus LiPo batteries needed for the equivalent flight time. Going the turbine route is obviously still quite a bit more expensive than the EDF equivalent at this point, but it’s getting better and more affordable. I would highly consider it and I plan to go that direction in the near future with a Freewing jet. This is just a random thought and something that would be fun to see. It could sell terribly or great, but that’s tough to tell. It’s just a wish :).

                                      Receiving potentially triple the flight time, fantastic power, great smell, amazing sound, and the overall fun factor of a turbine in this size range would be incredible. The amount of flights had before servicing the turbine would also be quite a bit, and some turbine servicing isn’t all that expensive, but would depend on the turbine used and location of the owner and servicing center.
                                      T-Cat, really do not see MRC in this small niche. I did already get one, the Navy Viper with a King Tec 60. Total price $3,000.00. I do not see most people in the forums willing to invest this much. With that said I really wanted Freewing to come out with an F-86 or an F9F Panther or Cougar in a 90mm. HSD is coming out with a T-33 and F-86 so may jump on the F-86.

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                                      • T-CAT
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                                        • Jan 2016
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                                        #2319
                                        Originally posted by wolpertinger

                                        T-Cat, really do not see MRC in this small niche. I did already get one, the Navy Viper with a King Tec 60. Total price $3,000.00. I do not see most people in the forums willing to invest this much. With that said I really wanted Freewing to come out with an F-86 or an F9F Panther or Cougar in a 90mm. HSD is coming out with a T-33 and F-86 so may jump on the F-86.
                                        I don’t see them likely going that route either :), but it was just a wish. With the smaller turbines from King Tech getting cheaper (the K30 is $1500, relatively light, and has potential to fit in some Freewing jets), it’s becoming more affordable, and the 80-90mm jets are cheaper than the larger HSD 105mm EDF sized jets. This all helps lower the starting price to get into turbines, and that is nice to see.

                                        That Navy Viper looks like some fun. We have several at the flying field and I’ve almost jumped on that purchase in the past. I hope you’re enjoying yours! I’m starting to come around to the idea again and looking to buy a small turbine in the near future. I may convert a Freewing jet if I don’t go with something else.

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                                        • MikeT
                                          Here......Hold my beer.

                                          • Jan 2016
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                                          #2320
                                          Originally posted by T-CAT
                                          I’d love to see Freewing in the future offer some foam “Turbine Ready ARF+” aircraft versions :):Cool:. It would include the conversion components like the metal pipe, high temp. foil tape, and some added bracing for the turbine and pipe (and maybe they could look into placement of the fuel tank in the design as well). With todays pricing on some turbines used for these 80-90mm EDF size aircraft, it is a reasonable expense to convert it to turbine in comparison to the expense of a PNP EDF Plus LiPo batteries needed for the equivalent flight time. Going the turbine route is obviously still quite a bit more expensive than the EDF equivalent at this point, but it’s getting better and more affordable. I would highly consider it and I plan to go that direction in the near future with a Freewing jet. This is just a random thought and something that would be fun to see. It could sell terribly or great, but that’s tough to tell. It’s just a wish :).

                                          Receiving potentially triple the flight time, fantastic power, great smell, amazing sound, and the overall fun factor of a turbine in this size range would be incredible. The amount of flights had before servicing the turbine would also be quite a bit, and some turbine servicing isn’t all that expensive, but would depend on the turbine used and location of the owner and servicing center.
                                          Than there's the wavier. No big deal to obtain but a foam fighter wouldn't be the best way to do it.I've watched guys struggle during the process by using the wrong air-frame..

                                          Mike
                                          \"When Inverted Down Is Up And Up Is Expensive\"

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