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  • FreeWing F-35 V2 mods

    I had a F-35 original version when they first came out, flew good but I never liked the servo controlled retracts or the bottom battery compartment, not to mention the relatively short flight times on 4s. I also had issues with the original elevator and aileron hinges coming lose. I decided to wait on the V2 for a while but i did get an F104 when they first came out. I liked the power system in the F104. Recently I've been reading about the 70mm Yak which uses the same power system. I got to thinking about the F-35 because I missed the vectored thrust, and it finally dawned on me that I could put the F-104/Yak130 power system in the F-35. In looking at the flying weight of the Yak at 60 oz I figured the F-35 would end up lighter with the same power.

    I ordered a V2 F-35 from Motion along with a F104 motor, planning to use an old 80 amp speed control I had and just replace the 4 cell motor with the 6 cell setup. Planned to use 6 cell 2700 batteries I had. Of course to do this requires a much larger battery hatch too.

    Put the motor in the 70mm setup and balanced the fan a bit. A simple bolt on install, easy mod. Had to get a new speed control as the old one was having problems, ended up with a YEP 100 simply because I like to use the "freewheeling" setup it has.

    The hatch was a little bit more complicated. Basically I now use the original battery hatch as the radio gear area. I outlined and cut a new hatch in the top of the fuselage behind the canopy. I'll post pictures when I have time to get them in my computer. I did my hatch similar to another that was done on rcgroups using a ply tongue to fit under the back of the canopy. Instead of magnets I had a spring loaded latch that i used at the back of the hatch area. Once you get the top hatch cut and removed there's LOTS of space for batteries!

    However, that large battery does affect the balance of the plane so you can't go more than about 3300 mah without being way nose heavy. I did remove the weight from the nose cone, added an oz to the leading edges of each elevator to counterbalance it and of course the F104 motot is a little heavier. Even with all the back end weight, the batteries have to go all the way at the aft end of the hatch area.

    Final weight with battery is 55oz.

    Next post will be flying it!


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    So, with a 6s 2700 pack and a bit lighter than the Yak, I was hoping I'd get at least 5 minutes flight time, maybe more. Airborne telemetry was current monitor and battery voltage monitor and altimeter. Rudder thrust vectoring on all the time, elevator thrust vectoring on a switch. While I was at it, added a second elevator lead and split the two servos into two channels. That was so I could mix ailerons to elevators on a switch too. Nice- ailerons as well as elevons, should have a decent roll rate.

    Balanced right at the front edge of the wheel wells, probably a little nose heavy.

    First flight was uneventful, didn't even need any trim. Fairly short takeoff, plenty of vertical power. Cruised around at half throttle or so and landed early just because I like to check everything after the first flight.

    Subsequent flights have shown this to be a really pleasant flying jet with no bad habits. Lands like it is on rails and just floats in with a little power on it. It is not a rocket at full power, but it is a lot faster than the 4s system. Of course it does wonderful aerobatics too, flat spins upright and inverted, all the thrust vectored aerobatics you'd expect. Knife Edge, point rolls, large loops and I've been attempting to get it to torque roll. It appears to have at least a 1 to 1 thrust ratio and maybe a bit better. When you go vertical it will keep on going until its too small to continue. I think with practice it will torque roll. Does nice rolling circles and a wonderful parachute. With just a little wind it will fall straight down under full control. Maybe not a 3D animal, but better than most jets!

    Best of all- I land at 6 minutes (mixed cruising, aerobatics and full throttle low passes) with 3.7 v per cell on my 6s 2200! I have not run my 2700 to 6 minutes yet but I'm sure it will. Packs are warm, but not hot.

    All in all, I really like the F-35 with these mods. Time for FreeWing to come out with V3......

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    • #3
      Sounds like an awesome plane. Looking forward to pics, especially the battery bay mod !
      If your pack's not swellin, you're not gellin ...

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      • #4
        For those interested here are pics of the hatch modification. Pretty easy to do. I used pins poked through from the inside of the intake ducts to outline the area, then allowed a half inch to get to the inside of the hatch foam and cut there. Now there's plenty of room! I have also used parallel 3s 2200 batteries, fit and balance just fine. I think balance limits battery size to about 3000.

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        • #5
          Here's what the hatch looks like on the bottom side. The ply tongue fits into the forward fuselage and keeps the front of the hatch aligned. The back latch is an old spring latch from a 3D plane. It might be easier to use magnets and a piece of packing tape to make a pull tab, but I had the spring latch so I used it.

          This hatch mod makes a really flexible flying plane. For those on 4s, you should be able to go to 3000 mah or larger batteries for more flight time. On 6s though I am getting 5 and a half to 6 minutes before I land and with 3.7v per cell. Out of that time I'm on full throttle for thrust vectored aerobatics and vertical climbs. I'd estimate part throttle around half the time and slow cruise for maybe 30 sec. Pretty efficient fan!

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          • #6
            What an awesome mod ..... I like it ! Thanks for sharing the photos. You need to do a flight video of this model and post it. That would be so cool to see it being wrung out !
            I have an F9 Panther and a Stinger 64 that I have hot rodded. The Stinger is a monster ! Unlimited vertical ... ;)
            The Panther went from tame to tiger ;)
            Guess I may have to get the F-35 and try this !
            If your pack's not swellin, you're not gellin ...

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            • #7
              Thanks Huff! I really like this one a lot. What convinced me was that power system in the Yak 130 had reported unlimited vertical and the F-35 weighs less if you believe the listed weights of each. They also were reporting that Yak flying for over 5 minutes too. After my flying buddy got the Yak and I saw it fly, I had to try out the F-35 with the mods. I figured that with plenty of power I could lounge around and fly easy for a really long time. I'm really glad I tried this and love the longer flight times. I see folks putting in 13 blade fans and different high power motors, but they are using a lot more current and have to carry larger packs. This is kind of a great middle ground since you get the best of both worlds.

              One of my flying buddies still has the V1 F-35 and after he saw my mods, he dug into his and added the hatch too. Maybe this weekend we'll get to see his fly.

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              • #8
                Awesome job!

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