Need advice

[Reptielenfreak]

So looking for a bigger scale jet BUT.

I need thrust reverse.
i need a jet with a relative short takeoff ( 70m ish runway)
it needs to be grass/bump proof.

So thinking about the
a10 2x64mm, but terrible gear
the f22, but how fast can it take off?
the f15 but adding a 130A spektrum ESC to give it thrust reverse.

Hope you can help me out!

[Evan D]

90mm F-22 or Eurofighter

[shortround91]

I’m really enjoying the J-10

[Reptielenfreak]

im not really into the shape of the J10 sorry.
the eurofighter has the weakpoint near the cheater wholes and the from the box nose heavy made me kind of let this jet go.

[Evan D]

I'm not. One Canard servo died on flight #2 and the other became intermittent on #8. Over all I like how it flies but like the looks of the Euro better and how the Gripen flies much better.

I’m really enjoying the J-10

[Mach351]

The F-22 high alphas really nicely that will transition into a short landing. It takes a little practice so not sure i'd recommend for a beginner.

[Alphonso]

Eurofighter 8S. It will take off in a very short distance. Naturally goes into high alpha as you drop the speed and can land on a postage stamp. F22 also, but it's a floater and in my opinion more work to land short despite its ability to fly really slow. F22 can however use just about any size lipo. I don't agree that the f22 high alphas nicely, it does it but nowhere near like the Euro does.
Well one or two people have mentioned the weakpoint at the cheaters on the Euro. Nothing on mine as yet and I flew it off grass a hell of a lot in the last year with the added weight of 10S. If it's nose heavy, use lighter packs. I'm 30mm aft of CG marks and no added tail weight as I put 4S under the airbrake.

[Reptielenfreak]

I think there is no doubt that a deltawing like the eurofighter/j10/mirage/gripon are the perfect high aplha machines.
i would probably not go 8s because of the new batterys i would have to buy.

So looking at the 6s versions.
Its not my first edf. Currently have the freewing 70mm the mirage 2000v2 the efl Draco and before these the a10 twin 70mm.

[Evan D]

Still say the Euro or F-22... 6S is fine, the new 1960kV fan is very good. When you say you have the freewing 70mm the mirage 2000v2 are you saying two different planes or did you make your Mirage a 70mm? It comes as a 80mm.

I think there is no doubt that a deltawing like the eurofighter/j10/mirage/gripon are the perfect high aplha machines.
i would probably not go 8s because of the new batterys i would have to buy.

So looking at the 6s versions.
Its not my first edf. Currently have the freewing 70mm the mirage 2000v2 the efl Draco and before these the a10 twin 70mm.

[Reptielenfreak]

No, its the 80mm mirage AND the 70mm f16 v3.

[shortround91]

I own a couple Mirages 2 stock and one beast with a Jet Fan Typhoon motor and 130amp ESC talk about a rocket ship now

[shortround91]

On the J-10 I love mine fast flies very neutral and have made some amazing Alphas with it before I did the refinish. That being said my next will most likely be the F22 or Eurofighter. The Gripen is a heavy plane for its size so no thanks there

[Reptielenfreak]

And nu thrust reverse so thats a no go for me personally.

Does anyone know how effective the thrust reverse is on the f22 compared to the mirage for example?

[Evan D]

Not very effective. I programmed rudder air brakes and crow and that slowed it better. All three of my Gripens have the 2150 and reversing ESC retrofitted to them. But that said F-22 or Euro...

My very first Mirage, when they first came out was built with a JF/HET 8S setup. Yes, fast but heavy and balanced nose heavy as the battery area is so restricted.

[Reptielenfreak]

And the thrust reverse on the eurofighter?

When you comparing the f22 thrust reverse against the mirage80mm or is it more like the f16 70mm?

[Evan D]

Euro is better. To me the mirage and f-16 are both poor.

[Reptielenfreak]

The mirage is way better than the f16 i.m.o. because the inlet from the f16 is blocked by a lot of plastic bits so in that point of view you think the f22 is about the same as the mirage then?

[stojakovic]

DH-112 can short takeoff。but should enhance landing gear with F9F.

[rifleman_btx]

My HSD 105mm F16 can take off in around 200ft off grass, and since it has electric magnetic brakes can land even shorter. It's just alot of money in the air at once.

[shortround91]

On your 70 F16 I did a mod to mine that woke it up, rotates in half the distance much much more thrust probably the best mod of done so far