So... What's next? We need some new military muscle for us EDF junkies! : )

[RCjetdude]

If it's a new bueatiful F-4 Phantom, make sure it has this feature for us non 800 foot runway types. Make sure you watch until the end.

That chute was quite effective. Slowed it right down.

[Alpha10]

Comeon baby! Rafale, F22, F4, F100... All single EDF must haves IMHO. :)

[dahawk]

The eflight vid was great . First time I’ve seen fly really well. That one flew great. The drag chute was an added bonus. Very cool.

[Evoman]

If it's a new bueatiful F-4 Phantom, make sure it has this feature for us non 800 foot runway types. Make sure you watch until the end.

A drag chute would be a very nice and useful feature for a super scale F-4. :Cool: The only thing better than a drag chute is a thrust reverser which is one of the many reasons an AJS-37 Viggen would make a great RC model.
The drag chute works well but it still took it a bit before it fully opened and started working. Compared to a thrust reverser like in the Viggen it can be set to activate the moment the nose gear compresses.
I have flown the Viggen in the DCS World flight simulator and it not only is easy but also a blast to land every time! No matter how much I over shoot the run way I can still pull off a great landing with out running out of runway. :)

[Having Fun]

If it's a new bueatiful F-4 Phantom, make sure it has this feature for us non 800 foot runway types. Make sure you watch until the end.

[xviper]

Thanks xviper. I see now there’d be no way to use one servo for elevator. I guess I’ll try it stock, and if I like I’ll keep it stock. Just seems wrong.

I'm thinking for the same reason that RC Powers planes made from depron or foamboard are mainly elevons, with the ailerons and elevators connected together. Even the HobbyKing SU-35, pusher prop is of this design. One thing about them, is that all of them will loop on a dime.

[Boots Whirlygig]

Thanks xviper. I see now there’d be no way to use one servo for elevator. I guess I’ll try it stock, and if I like I’ll keep it stock. Just seems wrong.

[xviper]

How difficult would it be modifying for conventional ailerons and elevator, it’s just one more servo, right?

It appears as though each side aileron and elevator are controlled by the same servo in stock form. If you can make the left and right elevator rigid with each other, then one more servo will do. If not, then it would need 2 more, "Y" them together, maybe use a servo reverser and hook up to ELE on RX. The AIL can also be "Y'd" together and run off the aileron channel. It's likely programmed as "elevon" wing type now. You'd need normal wing.

[Boots Whirlygig]

The Thunderchief is my first 64mm jet, and it will be the 1st edf I fly. I have the F-16 v2 that only Ryan@Motion has flown at NEFI (its maiden) and the A-4 that’s still in the box. If the THUD flies as good as it looks I will keep buying these parkjets if I like the aircraft. I like the F-8, but was a little put off with the flight surface set up. I flew U-C stunt, and we hooked the wing flaps to deflect DOWN with UP elevator. Seems to me these new 64mm jets would have weird pitch. In a picture of the 105 flying inverted it looks like full down elevator deflection. How difficult would it be modifying for conventional ailerons and elevator, it’s just one more servo, right?

[Twowingtj]

For me to buy a 64mm it would have to be something I really want not available in a larger size for it to be worth it for me to invest in upgrading it. I wont say what it would take because I want it in a 80mm. LOL

I heard Alpha say on the RCAfterhours podcast, that the aircraft models that sell well in the 64mm format could determine what is next to be available in larger formats.

[Evoman]

Now a 64mm EDF F-100...I'd buy that for $99!LOL

Sean

For me to buy a 64mm it would have to be something I really want not available in a larger size for it to be worth it for me to invest in upgrading it. I wont say what it would take because I want it in a 80mm. LOL

[EDFjetpilot]

Now a 64mm EDF F-100...I'd buy that for $99!LOL

Sean

[mr.frankenjet]

I like small jets, the 64mm f9 panther was cheep and flys great. Upgraded to 4 cell 12 blade set up and she really sings. These big planes take up allot of real estate in the hanger and are a bit more work to bring in sweetly on a short field. That being said avainte 80 is now on deck :Cool: Personally I'd like to see a large b29 or a dorrier 335 or super saber F100, keep um comming guys, well done.

[dahawk]

WAH WAH WAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I want the F-4 Phantom. I was all excited(worked up) with money ready to go then FLOP FACE PLANT. Great for the guys who like these smaller jets. Also have to give it Motion RC, great marketing strategy and thanks for making something for a variety of flyers. Now let's move on to the F-4. I think project " MOFO " is a great name. After all the F-4 was a MOFO of a jet.

See? For all of us Phantom campaigners, we were foiled again ! (excuse the pun) I did pre-order the F105 anyway. LOL

More reason to think that Alpha & his co-conspirators are cooking up the F4 in their secret kitchen. I'll bet they are making sure that when they bring her out, the F4 will be the best flying F4 ever. She's gotta be fast too ! The fastest FW EDF to date. Hopefully, much like the A-10, she'll be a super scale, twin 80mm w/ flying stab w/ all bells and whistles, done in USAF (C,D) , USN/Marines (B,J) liveries.

In a way, I'm glad they didn't bring out another 80mm right now. My wallet is still experiencing a big hangover from the B-24 pre-order plus everything else I've ordered for it. So ,schedule the container ship to arrive in May 2018 LOL

[Petronio]

Thanks for the warm welcoming :)

[F106DeltaDart]

A lot of those people that I have seen on here pushing for a new F-4 Phantom from Freewing have already dealt with those other F-4 models currently available. They all pretty much fed up with those models that need a lot of work to get flying some what decently and on top of that they are a maintenance nightmare. They just want a quality F-4 that flys well from the start.

Exactly, couldn't have said it better :Cool:.

[Evoman]

Agreed! A hobby shop can't sustain itself by selling only large scale EDFs. They've got to have enough variety to attract the masses. Large scale EDFs has a limited market due to size and price. It's the smaller planes that get new hobbyists into the game. I can just imagine that a manufacturer can sell thousands of smaller planes compared to a few hundred (maybe?) of large, expensive planes. An analogy would be the car industry. Toyota, Honda, Nissan built their customer base on small, low priced, economical cars, not the big, expensive luxurious ones. You gotta sell a million cheap models before you can sell a few pricey ones.
And on the F-4 note ............................ I can't see Freewing or FMS rushing to put out a twin Phantom while one already exists.
http://www.bananahobby.com/8-ch-blit...ueryId=2392176
Albeit FW or FMS can make it better than Blitz, but at a cost. I'm sure eventually, they will.

A lot of those people that I have seen on here pushing for a new F-4 Phantom from Freewing have already dealt with those other F-4 models currently available. They are all pretty much fed up with those models that need a lot of work to get flying some what decently and on top of that they are a maintenance nightmare. They just want a quality F-4 that flys well from the start. To them the only other better option is stepping up to the much more expensive Turbine model.

[Evoman]

I love this new 64mm line up and hope to see even more of them, it will allow pilots on a tight budget to enjoy flying EDFs and is a great size to keep in the car so you always got something to fly.

One of the positives about the 64 mm line is that it seems like it allows for there to be more verity of jets to be made into to RC EDF models that other wise would take longer to make into a larger size.
This size should be ideal to cater to that small group of people wanting rare jets. Not that the F-105 or F-8 are rare but just saying that there are better chances of a 64mm or even 70mm version making it to production than a larger version.

[xviper]

Not trying to stir the pot but if every new release was a giant scale edf I don't think MRC would be around long and no one would have anything new to look forward too. I'm not interested in flying jets but I'm still excited to see all the new cutting edge stuff they are coming out with. I also applaud every one involved with the design and development of all these new offerings especially the "testers" here on the Squawk for your ability to keep these secret and more importantly helping make them user friendly for the rest of us.

Agreed! A hobby shop can't sustain itself by selling only large scale EDFs. They've got to have enough variety to attract the masses. Large scale EDFs has a limited market due to size and price. It's the smaller planes that get new hobbyists into the game. I can just imagine that a manufacturer can sell thousands of smaller planes compared to a few hundred (maybe?) of large, expensive planes. An analogy would be the car industry. Toyota, Honda, Nissan built their customer base on small, low priced, economical cars, not the big, expensive luxurious ones. You gotta sell a million cheap models before you can sell a few pricey ones.
And on the F-4 note ............................ I can't see Freewing or FMS rushing to put out a twin Phantom while one already exists.

http://www.bananahobby.com/8-ch-blitzrcworks-super-f-4-phantom-II-rc-edf-jet-arf.html?pSearchQueryId=2392176

Albeit FW or FMS can make it better than Blitz, but at a cost. I'm sure eventually, they will.

[Twowingtj]

What a great way for folks to try out EDF flying. A decent flying entry level jet, backed by Motion RC, for about the price of a HZ Champ, Brilliant! Now there will be several models to choose from. Club members can pick these up and have "Race Day" or "Dog Fight Day". Modding and souping up possibilities are all there. These little buggers look good too! Well done again to all the folks involved with all of the new products coming out:Cool:!