First EDF?

[Hardway]

:Cool::Cool::Cool::Cool::Cool: Awesome!

[CVA59]

Koko.... I am pretty much in the same situation you are. I just ordered the 70mm T1 Hawk (base gray). I have heard good reviews on it as a first edf. I am a scale guy so it all came down to the larger F-86 or this one (link below). I chose this one because of price, the more scale like landing gear, and the lights. From what I can tell it is fairly good edf.

https://www.motionrc.com/collections...-base-gray-pnp

[Kokopellimusic]

I had a friend grab that one also. It’s his first EDF too. He’s got it together and waiting in better weather to fly her. The price is better too. I wanted the Sabre because my father, who’s 85, was crew chief in that jet during the war. I ended up actually talking with Pilot Ryan and we discussed my flying and he thought I could handle that jet. It is sweet and has great slow speed characteristics. Good luck. Keep us posted.

[CVA59]

I had a friend grab that one also. It’s his first EDF too. He’s got it together and waiting in better weather to fly her. The price is better too. I wanted the Sabre because my father, who’s 85, was crew chief in that jet during the war. I ended up actually talking with Pilot Ryan and we discussed my flying and he thought I could handle that jet. It is sweet and has great slow speed characteristics. Good luck. Keep us posted.

That is awesome! I love the F-86's too. Heck, I love ALL Military aircraft, LOL. It was for sure a hard choice for me. However, like you, my Dad served aboard the USS Forrestal right at the start of Vietnam so I wanted to stay with the Navy side of things. I am going to have Callie modify the decals to say USS Forrestal as well. Once I have this Hawk mastered, I will be moving into either the A4 Skyhawk or the F4 Phantom. I will do them both up in Forrestal flight squadrons. Probably the VA-46 for the A4 an VF-11 for the F4

I will let you know how my maiden goes. Thanks,

[Kokopellimusic]

Awesome! Callie is great. Super to work with. Can’t wait to see some photos!

[CVA59]

Awesome! Callie is great. Super to work with. Can’t wait to see some photos!

Hahaha, me neither. I am pretty excited to say the least. I will get some pics up as soon as I get her dressed up.

[Pilotguy]

For everyone who has already succesfully flown your first EDF, can you bullet list a few differences in flying technique that you've experienced from say propeller warbirds? I'm thinking throttle management particularly during approach & landing. I've been successfully flying my Parkzone F4U-1A Corsair & Eflite P-47 for 3 years now but am nervous about jumping up to EDF. Its mostly the approach and landing that I'm sweating over. How to overcome my fear?

[fhhuber]

For everyone who has already succesfully flown your first EDF, can you bullet list a few differences in flying technique that you've experienced from say propeller warbirds? I'm thinking throttle management particularly during approach & landing. I've been successfully flying my Parkzone F4U-1A Corsair & Eflite P-47 for 3 years now but am nervous about jumping up to EDF. Its mostly the approach and landing that I'm sweating over. How to overcome my fear?

EDFs don't maintain or recover airspeed as well in high G maneuvers. Wider turns, larger diameter loops.

They behave different near stall at high power. Similar in some ways to a pusher prop.

Applying power in a spin can "wind it up" making the plane spin faster rather than helping with recovery for some EDF models. EDF putting the source of torque effects nearer to CG, but usually aft and thrust exit generally being at the tail of the model. You won't be using a prop to pull it out of the spin. with high static thrust and blowing air over control surfaces. You are more dependent on the CG getting the nose down and having altitude to recover. When all else fails to get out of a spin, kill the throttle.
Test stall and spin recovery with LOTS of altitude.

Keep some power on for landing approach. If you go around, apply throttle smoothly, don't just slap it to full.

Go back to landing practice basics. Do an approach purposefully high and fast. Then a bit slower and lower... Repeat until the wheels touch.

Better a slightly fast landing than a stall low and slow.

[Skyboom]

The Motion RC Mig 15 flys amazing on 3 channels. It even flies inverted.

[Skyboom]

I just bought one. Under a $100. Can't wait to fly it. lol

[EDFjetpilot]

For everyone who has already succesfully flown your first EDF, can you bullet list a few differences in flying technique that you've experienced from say propeller warbirds? I'm thinking throttle management particularly during approach & landing. I've been successfully flying my Parkzone F4U-1A Corsair & Eflite P-47 for 3 years now but am nervous about jumping up to EDF. Its mostly the approach and landing that I'm sweating over. How to overcome my fear?

Having flown the E-Flite P-47 myself for a year and now having flown EDFs from 64mm to 110mm over the last 4 years, I'd say if you can fly your P-47 on high rates at full throttle for 3 minutes, then your hand/eye coordination is ready for an EDF. Also, landing an EDF would be similar to doing a 2-point landing with your P-47...your approach and landing speed will be faster, and you need to stay on the throttle until touchdown.

In general, EDFs will carry more momentum/speed, but will also lose airspeed, and subsequently altitude, very quickly without power, and throttle response will be slower not having a prop to help generate lift over the wings...thus the idea of thinking "ahead of the jet" to compensate for these aerodynamic differences.

Of course, with moving into another category of aircraft...start slow with a good "trainer"...not necessarily something you think is cool to fly. Plus, if you already have 3S batteries, I recommend start with one of the 3S 64mm EDF jets. They're relatively inexpensive and will help you get used to the flying characteristics of a jet.

By all means, respect your fear, but don't let it stop you. EDFs will give you another level of excitement to experience in this hobby.

Good luck,

Sean

[Valkpilot]

Koko.... I am pretty much in the same situation you are. I just ordered the 70mm T1 Hawk (base gray). I have heard good reviews on it as a first edf. I am a scale guy so it all came down to the larger F-86 or this one (link below). I chose this one because of price, the more scale like landing gear, and the lights. From what I can tell it is fairly good edf.

https://www.motionrc.com/collections...-base-gray-pnp

The first EDF I successfully flew was a T-45, the T1's American brother, but it was a smaller size than the one you bought. Wore the darn thing out, but still have it in a place of honor.

[vdanger]

If you want the perfect first EDF I HIGHLY recommend the Eflite 70mm Viper. (I hate to say this because I am a Motion guy, maybe they will start carrying it).

I bought mine and convinced 6 other guys in my club to buy it as their first EDF. They all rave about it.

You can fly it as slow as a cub or balls to the wall. Lands easily.

You can buy a version with SAFE for $249.00. I think it is a bargain.

[CVA59]

If you want the perfect first EDF I HIGHLY recommend the Eflite 70mm Viper. (I hate to say this because I am a Motion guy, maybe they will start carrying it).

I bought mine and convinced 6 other guys in my club to buy it as their first EDF. They all rave about it.

You can fly it as slow as a cub or balls to the wall. Lands easily.

You can buy a version with SAFE for $249.00. I think it is a bargain.

That is a nice looking jet for sure. It has some similarities to the Hawk. Thanks for the info.

[CVA59]

The first EDF I successfully flew was a T-45, the T1's American brother, but it was a smaller size than the one you bought. Wore the darn thing out, but still have it in a place of honor.

Who made it? 64mm?

[Valkpilot]

Who made it? 64mm?

SkyAngel 50 mm. I know of two places you can get the T1 in Red Arrows livery. I now fly(or will when the weather gets better) the 70 mm TS Red Arrow. The T1/T-45 is slightly more forgiving than most other
EDFs, and is easily mastered.

[Kokopellimusic]

The Viper looks awesome! THe only thing I’ve seen with that is be careful of the landings. Do a two point and flare the nose. She wants to bounce. Looks like a fantastic flyer though. I got four flights in now on my Freewing Sabre. A total of 8 flights now. Love it!!! I tried out my RCJetwerxs 5300 60c battery yesterday. It’s a tad heavy but good punch. Only got about 30 sec more of flight. I’d go with the Admiral 4500 for those looking at the Sabre. Good weight and around 3:15 flying time at full throttle. The Sabre will do some great slow flying as well. Good luck!

[Skyboom]

LiP.15 came in mail today. Not to go against Bruce's advice but I want fly this thing. My first edf plane. Getting wings glued on this evening. Set the throttle calibration ok. Mix it to a Delta wing tomorrow after work. Crossing fingers for friendly sky's this weekend.

[Kokopellimusic]

Good luck! Keep us posted.