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Ground Service Agent Steals and Flies Horizon Q400

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  • Ground Service Agent Steals and Flies Horizon Q400

    I'm sure you have heard about it, it is all over the news. This happened in my neck of the woods. Sea Tac International Airport last night at 8pm PST. Two F-15's out of Portland, OR were tasked to intercept. There's ATC audio between the suicidal pilot and ATC. It's tragic, incredible that no other loss of life occurred. Wow, just unbelievable. As reckless and dangerous as this was, a part of me just feels really sorry for the guy. By the sound of the ATC dialogue, he seemed like he wasn't a bad guy at all, just got caught up with whatever mounting mental/emotional issues he was dealing with. It seems clear he wasn't wanting to cause harm to anyone but himself (and well that multi-million-dollar airplane). It will be very interesting to find out how he was able to pull it off.

    He made light of his experience (video games) but I have no doubt he knew enough about system procedures and flight experience to get the engines started, successfully takeoff and fly (even coordinated turns) for an hour. I have thousands of hours on flight simulators, some of which are extraordinarily sophisticated and realistic. I have no doubt I could at least start up, takeoff, fly and even land a full scale aircraft I had numerous flight hours with on the flight simulator. I would bet money he too was similarly experienced with flight simulators and most likely the Q400 specifically since that was the airplane he worked with on a daily basis for 3 years.

    Here's but just one example of how to perform the start up sequence for the Q400 for FSX (Microsoft's Flight Simulator)...Real pilots use this type of software all of the time (FSX, Prepar3D, etc). You could literally memorize all of the processes and procedures from these simulators (and good quality payware). Although nothing can compare to true flying, the simulators can give you as realistic an experience as can be imagined. This might explain while he was able to execute barrel rolls, loops, coordinated turns, etc for over an hour before running out of fuel and plummeting to the ground where the plane crashed on a near vacant small island on Puget Sound.



    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/11/us/pl...off/index.html

    https://komonews.com/news/local/stol...seatac-airport
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  • #2
    :( Very sad..... A tragic end. Prayers to all affected...

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    • #3
      Taking off is easy... 10 min with a flight sim and you can do it.

      You might remember your early lessons with RC.. Taking off wasn't the problem.
      FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.

      current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs

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      • #4
        Still, he had to know the systems and procedures to engage the starting sequence for twin turbo props...
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        • #5
          Its in the checklist, and there's 2 books with the checklist kept in the airplane.
          FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.

          current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs

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          • #6
            Good point. I was just talking to a buddy today and we both agree that there needs to be some kind of procedure for commercial aircraft that requires more than one person to be able to start up an aircraft. Who knows what that would be? A code issued by ATC? Two "keys" needed to initiate the start up sequence? It's a fair topic to put on the table.
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            • #7
              Now don't go panicking like the FAA and impose another rule or equipment requirement. How many stolen "air carrier" airplanes have there been in the last 30 years? I've been in the aviation industry most of my life and this is an extremely rare event. If it becomes a problem there are much simpler ways to disable an aircraft from starting or flight.

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              • #8
                Or how about locking the cockpit when not in use? Something simple that wouldn't require extra funding.
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                • #9
                  You aren't going to be able to secure an aircraft vs theft by someone who would typically have permission to start it up and move it.
                  FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.

                  current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs

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                  • #10
                    It's a sad sad thing. All the way around. The ATC guys, the Air Force, and everybody did what they could. They tried to keep him away from populated areas. I don't think he was ever going to bring it back to land.
                    Meridian Aeromodelers, Meridian MS

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                    • #11
                      No I feel strongly this was a suicide mission from the start. So many layers to this sad story.
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