Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

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  • Alpha
    Former Motion RC Staff

    • Feb 2015
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    Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

    I'm often asked to give recommendations for someone looking to buy a new plane. While individual cases vary widely based on budget, style, size, flying field access, and other considerations, safety is the most important factor. My first question to a pilot would be "What is your current skill level?"

    As an example, I completely understand that jets "look cool", but to a new pilot just starting out, it is far more likely that he or she will be more successful, and thereby be more safe to themselves and their surroundings, with a trainer aircraft. No one wants to pick up the pieces of their cool jet which took a dirt nap too early due to a preventable mishap.

    To summarize the skill level we feel is required for the safe operation of each aircraft on www.motionrc.com, there is a tag in each aircraft's Description page which states either "Beginner", ""Beginner+", "Intermediate", "Advanced", or "Expert". Here is more information behind those ratings:


    http://www.motionrc.com/knowledgebase/#!articles/305-2724-a-guideline-about-our-skill-levelbuild-timeage-level-recommendations

    This is not an entirely rigid rule, but it does give some guide for what you should expect when considering a new purchase. We always encourage pilots to develop their skills as they desire. As long as safety is the priority, the fun will more easily follow.
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  • Loneflier
    HobbySquawk Accomplished Pilot

    • Aug 2013
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    RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

    Thanks Alpha, that is a helpful guide and I was glad to see it added to the knowledge base website.

    I would still like to see something in there about using Opto BECs, and how to correctly connect a UBEC to either a separate battery or to the opto ESC. A video on this similar to the one you did for Dynam ESC calibrations would be outstanding.

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    • Grossman56
      Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

      • Jun 2014
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      RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

      Great guide Alpha. 
      I'd like to add that the pucker factor will also be a big indicator of your flying skills.  If you still get nervous flying your trainer, or advanced trainer (The Pucker factor) you really should do yourself a favor and stay at that level for awhile.  When you think about it, no one really cares what you fly, but how well you fly it.  If you can excel on your Pandora and start to feel that something with a little more kick  would be more to your liking, you're probably close to ready to move on.  Personally, I flew my Pandoras until it was very routine.  All the aerobatics that I could think of and all the situations I could get myself in and out of.  Then hopped on to the Mustangs.  P factor?  You bet, but experience kicked in and it was fun rather than a roller coaster-like ride.

      Grossman56 
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      • Rocketeer
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        • Feb 2014
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        RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

        Greetings,

        A skill guide is undoubtedly essential to the investigation/buying process.

        Agreed, Jets definitely are cool and surely provided the coveted WOW factor people crave, but more times than not the jets are well beyond the buyer's skill sets.

        Perhaps we should call it or create a "Sensibility Guide".

        If your current skills fall within these parameters (this data is easily obtained by answering a few simple questions), then the following list of planes shown should be the "sensible" purchase choice - at this time - to insure maximum dollar value, a positive RC experience and longevity within the hobby.

        As a pilots' skills increase and they are ready for their next plane, they simply re-answer the questions and the new data produces a new selection of "sensible" aircraft appropriate to their more recent skill sets.

        Eventually, the data provided during the evaluation process will include a Jet.

        As in any purchase of worth, education is key. IMHO of course.

        Bill L.
        In Okla.

         

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        • Grossman56
          Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

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          RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

          Yep, sounds right to me, but I wonder how many people go from a trainer straight to the jets!  As foolish as it may seem to us, I bet there are some that have tried.  I remember being very impressed with SOB when he started off on his 1400mm FMS FW 190.  People with that........luck!? Are few and far between.  If I remember, that FW finally caught up with him though.
          I still shudder at the thought of a maiden flight.  I've had adventures with every one of them from Weedwacker to the recent attempt at flight with the Pitts.  I've never done and irreparable damage to any of them, but it's always a relief to have it over and know what to expect.

          Grossman56
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          • XF-15DCC
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            • May 2015
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            #6
            RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

            Being still "new" to the hobby it would be great if I can search by the skill level rating. Still a ways to go before my next aircraft but if I could search the beginner + or Intermediate planes right off the bat would help.

            Just a thought.

            Kevin
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            • Grossman56
              Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

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              RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

              Hey Kevin, welcome to the sport sort of, you can also get the opinions of several of us as we've been down the same road, some more recently than others.  My wife just started this year and is doing great on the Apprentice, Sensei has been recommended by several for a primary.  I had (and still have) the Hobbyzone Super Cub and she was okay, but nothing like the Apprentice.  Intermediate, well, you'll hear nothing but raves about the Pandora from the bunch of us, I think everyone has at least one!?
              Even though I've got up to the FMS 1400 scale warbirds, I still love to take the Pandoras out and just have a relaxing flight.  Once you've wrung one of them out and can fly it with ease, the transition to the warbirds was pretty easy.
              Either way you go, there's usually someone on the site here that has flown one Bill (Rocketeer) has had every plane here or darned close to it, right Bill!!
              All kidding aside, we're here to help and learn as well so feel free to ask.

              Grossman56 and Mrs Grossman
              Team Gross!

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              • Rocketeer
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                RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                Greetings,

                Variety is the spice of life..... but that makes me no expert.......

                But, I'm also eager to assist when/if I can.

                Bill L.
                In Okla.

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                • Grossman56
                  Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

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                  RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                  by the way, check out the cheesy grin as I just completed my first Mustang flight ever!

                  Good luck with your flying!  I've been keeping a logbook this year, for the fun of it, its interesting to see how many hours you can stack up, anyone else keep track?

                  Grossman56
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                  • Hippie 64
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                    #10
                    RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                    We need a new level.........

                    50+ and still gets nervous 



                    Bryan 
                    But Crashing is Landing

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                    • XF-15DCC
                      Hobby Squawk Student Pilot

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                      #11
                      RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                      Originally posted by Hippie 64
                      We need a new level.........

                      50+ and still gets nervous 


                      Bryan 
                      Sign me up!
                      Off with one helluva roar!
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                      • StormyDog1962
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                        #12
                        RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                        50+ Toilet Paper required Before Flight

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                        • XF-15DCC
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                          #13
                          RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                          TP? I prefer a cork!
                          Off with one helluva roar!
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                          • Rocketeer
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                            RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                            Greetings Guys'

                            Does wearing 50+ 'Depends' count??

                            Bill L.
                            In Okla.

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                            • StormyDog1962
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                              #15
                              RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                              That would solve most of your problems but finding anyone to stand next to you might be a problem!!

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                              • XF-15DCC
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                                #16
                                RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                                WOW! Just think of the airspace!
                                Off with one helluva roar!
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                                • Grossman56
                                  Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

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                                  #17
                                  RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                                  It 'depends' Bill
                                  LOL
                                  Grossman56
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                                  • Rocketeer
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                                    #18
                                    RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                                    Greetings Wayne,


                                    You make an excellent point!!!

                                    Perhaps I'll figure away to line them with sweet smelling dryer sheets or something.....   


                                    Bill L.
                                    In Okla.

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                                    • doctormike
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                                      #19
                                      RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                                      You guys are "Gross". Just wear a diaper. Doc

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                                      • Rocketeer
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                                        #20
                                        RE: Skill Level Guide for Aircraft

                                        Greetings Doc,

                                        I agree that diapers are the logical solution, but with diapers come laundry.

                                        I think I'll stick with disposables.


                                        Bill L.
                                        In Okla.

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