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  • Hipshoot87
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    • Aug 2018
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    #1

    No down elevator

    I just assembled an Apprentice S 15e and bound the plane to my DX6. All surfaces worked fine as long as no power was applied to the motor. One I powered up, I no longer had down elevator. I moved switches around thinking maybe I did some wrong. I even rebound the radio to the plane. I still do not have down elevator. What do you think? Receiver problem or am I missing a step?
  • T-CAT
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    • Jan 2016
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    #2
    I just checked another forum and others explain a similar thing occurring with no down elevator. It appears the receiver has something to do with this when in Beginner Mode or Panic Mode, but not sure which one (or maybe both). I don’t ’own the Apprentice though and unfortunately cannot give first hand experience info.

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    • xviper
      Hobby Squawk Regular

      • Jan 2014
      • 8753
      • Calgary, Canada
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      #3
      I assume that this plane has the AS3X receiver in it. The reason things change when you give it throttle is because AS3X doesn't initialize till you give it about 1/4 to 1/3 throttle. Then the stability and other "beginner" functions activate. Take the plane in hand and move it around after you initialize the Rx. Do the control surfaces react to the movement to try to level the plane? If so, it's likely acting normally. Select a level above "beginners". You should then see that all control surfaces, including the elevator, will respond to the sticks.
      Make sure that you've programmed all switches according to the manual for your DX6 and understand what each position does. Go back and double check. Also, might be a good idea to read ALL of the manual.

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      • F22trainer
        Piper PhD

        • Mar 2018
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        • Sun City, Az
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        #4
        1.) Read the manual
        2.) Read the manual
        3.) Read the manual

        Then get some help from an experienced owner or LHS to assist. ( Bring the manual)
        Best to have someone with experience fly it without beginner modes to make sure it is set up properly, then check them at altitude.
        Not the other way.
        Then make adjustments.

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        • Hipshoot87
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          • Aug 2018
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          #5
          Thank you guys. I did all that was recommended and still no joy. I called Motion RC and went through the procedure with a tech on the phone. Apparently there is an issue with the receiver. The plane is new and never been flown. They are sending a new plane and I will return mine in their box. By they way. I always read the manuals through and through; 20 years flying RC but never flown electrics.

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          • F22trainer
            Piper PhD

            • Mar 2018
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            • Sun City, Az
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            #6
            In Beginner mode, control inputs are limited. Check actual movements in advanced mode.

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            • fhhuber
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              • Aug 2015
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              #7
              Originally posted by F22trainer
              In Beginner mode, control inputs are limited. Check actual movements in advanced mode.
              Limited does not = 0.
              FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.

              current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs

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              • F22trainer
                Piper PhD

                • Mar 2018
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                #8
                Originally posted by fhhuber

                Limited does not = 0.
                Correct!

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                • Elbee
                  Be humble...be approachable...and be credible.

                  • Feb 2018
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hipshoot87
                  Thank you, guys. I did all that was recommended and still no joy. 20 years flying RC but never flown electrics.
                  HS87, Welcome to the "Squawk" and to Man vs. Electrons. I'm new to this facet of RC myself. Best, LB
                  "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
                  ~Lucky B*st*rd~

                  "Find satisfaction in the process rather than an outcome."
                  ~Anonymous~

                  AMA#116446

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                  • BILLY BOY
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                    • Apr 2018
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                    #10
                    I suspected from the title of your post that this would be about the Apprentice. I had the same issue. After I activated the throttle to 25% I had control. In beginner mode, the down elevator is very minimal and nearly imperceptible.

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