Last day for FAA registration

[Grossman56]

Hi Grossman56. So are you saying that you are happy with your Hobby Eagle A3L? I have an A3L in my Hobby King J3 Cub, and Dynam Tiger Moth but haven't done a maiden flight with either of them yet.

Yes, definitely!! All my birds have one in them. Just beware of maiden flights with a gyro. Make sure it is turned 'off' before getting airborne, get some altitude and then switch it on and off just as quickly as you would say it. That's enough time to tell you whether you have all the controls set right. If they're right, she'll not do anything weird, but she will if they're not. If you need to change settings, land and change. Remember "aero" two blinks=A(Ailerons), three blinks=E(Elevator), four blinks =R(rudder). Make sure its off, take off again and try it again. Most times, its set right if you've done your homework, but don't take a chance. Once you've got it set right, its great. I have most of mine set to around 80%, but that's just personal preference. They're not an auto pilot by any means, you can still crash, but when the wind picks up unexpectedly, or you haven't got a choice but have to make a crosswind landing, they take some of the 'thrill' out of it. Personally, I can fly in winds and make crosswind landings with ease, but I just like the way the A3L's make my plane feel, nice and crisp.
(Btw, I use aileron/rudder mix as well to counter adverse yaw, but don't tell anyone)

Grossman56

[owyheeguy]

I'm definitely going to get a few more A3L's. I have a question. Did you guys receive a capacitor with your A3L's? There's a photo of the capacitor with everything else in the package. Did anybody else get one?

[boomer108]

Hey Owyheeguy!

I received a capacitor with my last one in January,it's something new they have added. Just plug it into any empty slot in your receiver or gyro. Motion is now offering them for sale as an upgrade for the older ones.

Roy B.

[owyheeguy]

Well I need 3 I guess. Thanks boomer108.

[owyheeguy]

It's funny how threads change their subject but continue on.

[boomer108]

It's funny how threads change their subject but continue on.

I guess we should have been putting this in gyros thread under electronics. Oh well!

[OV10]

First of all, like most everyone, I'm extremely upset that we have to comply with this new rule because a few people have screwed it up for everyone else. Enough said about that, but looking at the FAA registration site it appears they want you to BUY all your labels from them at about $10 apiece. From what I'm reading above, most of you all are just printing out duplicates of the one original you get. That is what I intend to do also. Why would I spend upward of $150 in labels for all my fleet? I bet someone will get caught somehow, somewhere with a counterfeit label and that will be the end of that.
I was just going to make mine postage stamp size and affix it to the underside of my planes. Might need a magnifying glass, but it's labeled.
Secondly, this just seems like another way a federal agency can suck more money out of us. Really now, you can force us to register, but why not just send us our certificate and label via e-mail and let us print it. Doesn't require a fee nor require them to make their labels. Hey, it's just a database with all our names and info on it. Isn't rocket science to produce or maintain. Not a justification for "force" charging us into having it in the first place. They should be paying us to use it as a thank you for participating!!!!

Hello retired,
You said," looking at the FAA registration site it appears they want you to BUY all your labels from them at about $10 apiece."
I am unsure as to where you are getting your information about the FAA registration site wanting labels to be bought from them @ $10/ea. I tore that site apart and saw nothing. Please help us out here as to where you specifically saw this. My main concern about this is, if it is not validated then it is just another addition to the rampant misinformation about our sport/hobby being spread around.
You also indicated, " but why not just send us our certificate and label via e-mail and let us print it." That is exactly what the FAA is doing and is why your acknowledgement of "From what I'm reading above, most of you all are just printing out duplicates of the one original you get" is what you/we should be doing.
I to was totally as frustrated as you and every other pilot and Flygirl out there about this FAA over reach but we all just need to move on past this no win situation and worry more about the smaller dogs on the street nipping at out heels which are namely our local governance. Refering to my post #38 of this thread

http://www.hobbysquawk.com/forum/rc-airplanes/miscellaneous-rc-airplane-chat/1985-tried-to-register-with-faa/page4

regarding the acts of city legislatures trying to pass laws forbidding RC flying, here's a key excerpt of that post - "I think our concerns as a modeling community is not with the FAA but more with the local level of governance. As I said earlier, a bullet was dodged just 150 mi NE of me in Albany but I don't believe for one moment that it won't happen in another town or city in the near future........which one of you could be next?? "
Look forward to you providing some clarity regarding $10 FAA label purchases.
Best regards,

[farmflyer]

A ban on flying will not happen any time soon in my city. I'm confident in making this statement because I am a member of the city council and we have no issues with it.

[doctormike]

Albuquerque has banned RC flying from all their parks. If there had been so much as one accident in the past 50 years, I might understand it. It's just a stupid knee jerk reaction to all the drone hype. Doc

[retiredflyer]

Hello retired,
You said," looking at the FAA registration site it appears they want you to BUY all your labels from them at about $10 apiece."
I am unsure as to where you are getting your information about the FAA registration site wanting labels to be bought from them @ $10/ea. I tore that site apart and saw nothing. Please help us out here as to where you specifically saw this. My main concern about this is, if it is not validated then it is just another addition to the rampant misinformation about our sport/hobby being spread around.
You also indicated, " but why not just send us our certificate and label via e-mail and let us print it." That is exactly what the FAA is doing and is why your acknowledgement of "From what I'm reading above, most of you all are just printing out duplicates of the one original you get" is what you/we should be doing.
I to was totally as frustrated as you and every other pilot and Flygirl out there about this FAA over reach but we all just need to move on past this no win situation and worry more about the smaller dogs on the street nipping at out heels which are namely our local governance. Refering to my post #38 of this thread

http://www.hobbysquawk.com/forum/rc-airplanes/miscellaneous-rc-airplane-chat/1985-tried-to-register-with-faa/page4

regarding the acts of city legislatures trying to pass laws forbidding RC flying, here's a key excerpt of that post - "I think our concerns as a modeling community is not with the FAA but more with the local level of governance. As I said earlier, a bullet was dodged just 150 mi NE of me in Albany but I don't believe for one moment that it won't happen in another town or city in the near future........which one of you could be next?? "
Look forward to you providing some clarity regarding $10 FAA label purchases.
Best regards,

I sincerely apologize for my previous posting regarding the FAA labels. After going back and looking at the original e-mail I got stating that the deadline for registering was upon me I just assumed that that site was part of the FAA stuff and I had to order labels and ID cards and such. Cost me 50 bucks, which now in looking back was totally unnecessary. The 5 bucks at the FAA site would have sufficed. The site I was at was https://drone-registration.net and looking after doing everything it said I now see at the bottom in the fine print that are NOT affiliated with the FAA, they are just a consumer site to facilitate the registration. I screwed up!!!! I was wondering why after I did all that I STILL had to go the FAA site and spend ANOTHER 5 bucks. Stupid me......old age syndrome. Anyway, it's done now. Sorry!!!

[The Huff]

You might want to consider changing your credit card number retired. Word is out that there are some scammers out there phishing for financial information using false UAS registration websites.
The AMA posted this in their government relations blog.

[OV10]

retired,
Sad to see that you got sucked into one of the many unscrupulous capitalistic web sites trying to make money off of this FAA over reach. Unfortunately this crap happens all the time because folks just don't take the extra moment to fully understand who/what they are looking/dealing with on the internet. I'm guessing that this bite in the wallet won't happen again with your future internet purchases. Oh......no need to be sorry, just glad it isn't true that we have to do it.
Best regards,

[doctormike]

I've almost fallen for that B.S. a couple of times. You really have to read everything carefully. You'll wind up owning beachfront property in Nevada! Doc :dodgy:

[Grossman56]

AIRR Act passes Transportation and Infrastructure Committee

We have good news to share. Thursday, February 11, 2016 the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee in the House of Representatives passed the Aviation Innovation, Reform, and Reauthorization (AIRR) Act, which preserves and strengthens the Special Rule for Model Aircraft.
We would like to thank Rep. Bill Shuster of Pennsylvania, Chairman of the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, and Rep. Mark Sanford of South Carolina for their efforts to ensure that this important legislation protects the hobby of flying model aircraft.
The AIRR Act is critical to preserving our voluntary, community-based approach to managing the model aviation community. By strengthening the Special Rule for Model Aircraft, this bill will enhance safety across the recreational community and allow our members, who for decades have flown safely and responsibly within AMA’s community-based safety program, to continue enjoying our hobby without new burdensome regulations.
Among the bill’s provisions, it provides a clear definition of a community-based organization (CBO) and tasks the FAA with developing a process for recognizing qualifying CBOs, both long-overdue tasks for the agency. In addition, the bill makes clear that model aircraft can be used as a teaching tool for science, technology, engineering and math (STEM), as well as aeronautics.
The AIRR act is a strong bill that we are proud to support, but Congress isn’t done with it yet. The full House of Representatives still needs to vote on the AIRR Act and the Senate still needs to work on its own version of the bill. AMA has been actively advocating for our members’ interests on Capitol Hill, and we will continue working with Congress on additional changes that could further protect our hobby.
We may need your help in reaching out to members of Congress to urge them to support the Special Rules for Model Aircraft, which provides critical protections for the model aviation community. Remain vigilant and continue to monitor emails, social media, and www.modelaircraft.org/gov for more information and updates.

Just a little update in case you missed it

Grossman56

[Kaeleaf]

Do I really need the FAA registration forms for a Super Cub S? I have asked for them but no response so far. I am now a member of AMA but not sure about the FAA requirements because the wording speaks of drones. HELP

[Konrad]

If the flying weight is more that 250 grams then the answer is YES.

Per the FAA's definition our models are drones! You and I both know how stupid that is, but it is how the FAA reads the statutes.

Do you have a link to the model in question?

Is this the model P/NHBZ8180B
The PK spec's state that it is way over the 250 g limit with a weight of 714 grams
http://www.horizonhobby.com/HBZ8180B...FVJgfgoddw8ObA

[OV10]

Hello Kaeleaf and welcome to the Squawk,
The bottom line answer is YES.
As the ruling stands today from the FAA, any modeler flying a craft between .55 to 55 pounds needs to register. The word "drone" has unfortunately been mislabeled by the FAA to include fixed wing and rotary wing(helos) airframes into the same platform as "Quads" and it has been propagated by the unrestrained news media. There is a lot of rhetoric about this whole government overreach on this forum in other threads as well as other forums too so I leave it at that if you want more insight.
Best regards,

[fhhuber]

Currently... until someone successfully challengfes FAA's abuse of power in court... we have to register anything that flies RC .55 lb to 55 lb.

There's a law going through congress now which could change that...

[Dewey H Lee]

I may be opening a dead can of worms here but I think the only way things are going to change is when certain people stop operating rc aircraft in an unsafe and irresponsible way. No one doing this is ever going to register so I don't see why they bother. But as long as people are about hitting sheriffs helicopters with an airplane and the 42 second floor of the umpire state gets hit with a drone for pictures then we are all going to have to suffer. Last week at Sunday on the square here someone crashed a drone in a crowd of people around the food court and a lady and child were seriously cut by the rotors. No pilot ran up to claim there drone. This is really what were fighting.

[OV10]

Your very first sentence basically says it all Dewey and your not opening the dead c-o-w because it was never closed. Everyone would like to point the finger at the "Droners" (alias Quads) but the truth be told is that the Fixed wing sector of the RC world also has it's own share of stupid residing in the ranks. There used to be a contributor to this forum who has disappeared that comes to mind regarding being part of that stupid faction. This person used to post a lot of videos of some pretty flagrant unsafe acts which used to burn me up when I saw them. One that I remember oh so well was where he was video taping his flying of his 1400 FMS mustang out of a cul-de-sac in a rather densely populated housing community and was putting his P-51 through some rather precarious maneuvers less than 50 feet above neighboring roof tops and ultimately lost control whereas he crashed into the roof of the community fire station. I can still hear his stupid comment resounding in the video, "boy am I glad that I am an AMA member so that I have insurance to cover accidents like this." REALLY........you fly like a jackass with little regard to safety protocols and actually think that you would be covered???? Better rethink those ideals but nooo.... that is not gonna happen any time soon because there is a lot of stupid out there who want to do their social media video posting bit of there lackluster flying skill competency. I just shake my head all the time and say to myself, why don't these people learn to first fly the craft skillfully and then give us a video of that skillful achievement?? I don't see that happening in the near distant future until we within our own ranks start speaking out to the ones committing the stupid acts. That's been pent up for some time but it needed to be said now!! Thanx for waking me up Dewey with your opening sentence.
Best regards,