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Ok so finally got the RX and TX setup - One issue is the AR636 sensor port.. Plug in the GPS and bind ,it picks it up as telemetry but when go to GPS view in the TX the reciever shuts down... Not good for flying...
2nd on the Cirrus had to virtually adjust all surface trims... one big issue on the Flaps
The one below when they set it up has the servo arm in a different position meaning no full fly deployment... going to have to undo all to move arm round to get full movement, if this is a PNP plane anyone new would not see it and maybe this is cause some handling issues
Managed to get the AS3X to work, ope tonight to finalise the model set up..Leave a comment:
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Thanks for the links
On the Spektrum Range it seems you can program the Receiver or the transmitter for the model, or do you do both TX and RX with same settings
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Thanks… After the Easy Glider 4 its going to be interesting, The site I fly has a few limitation, like Dont fly low over the end where the approach is normally.. as guy living there weekends does not like it… so approaches are normally low last turns… got good at it with the easy glider… so got to try with power plane…
Know its a learning curve and thanks for the help.. Like Learning the Spekrtum as the futaba I used from Drones, paramoders to glider and know it well.. easy setup and use.. the DX8a and receivers are a different beast… buy the DX8a and ar656 to find telemetry is not as easy to set up.,..as the Futaba… need computer to do all,, the manual is not as easy or good to program all... and now find need a special lead to program the Receiver…pity they do not do a pack with all needed to get it done….
For the Cirrus, going to use the AR636 AS3X as going to use timer but for Fox the AR7350 AS3X for more telemetry options… like voltage… and GPS…
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Cherokee is definitely a great learning platform, as opposed to the Cirrus. Once set up and fine tuned, it will land by itself, with gentle corrections, a little power and full flaps. The Cirrus is a great flyer, but the wing stops flying at low speeds and a lower angle of attack. Not a good slow flyer.Leave a comment:
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"Sailplane" model type is an entirely different thing. Unless you're going to get into competition gliders, it's not a good choice.
You'll find that the Cirrus is best flown WITHOUT flaps. If you want to find out what they do, go very high up and pretend to do a landing approach and play with the flaps. Imagine you're going to land but the ground is 200 feet in the air. More often than not, you'll find that the Cirrus will drop a wing and spiral down when flaps are deployed and you're slowing down for the landing. Actual landings are best done without flaps for a while, at least till you get pretty good at it. Flaps don't always give you better landings.
The thing about "reading articles", is that you need to know who's giving the opinion. Are these people more experienced flyers? If so, they probable got bored with the Cheroke and found the Cirrus more enjoyable because it's a little more challenging. They forgot what it was like when they were still new in the game. At my stage of flying, I wouldn't get the Cherokee either but for my friend, the Cirrus was the wrong way to go. You have to give your advice based on who you think might be your audience.Leave a comment:
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Thanks… I have been flying the Easy Glider 4 for a short while… I have the Cirrus already on the shelf… Not flown it yet, as awaiting radio which I got and receiver on way… going with the AS3x setup to assist till get the hang of it..
So set the Fox up more as a Plane then a glider your saying. I did have one, but it dived and broke…loved it while it flew, but had no setup other then glider with power… flaps were on the throttle stick to make control easier on how much. I hade it on a Futaba and power on a 2 way switch, programmed for Medium and High… the club I fly is more glider then Power planes. they fly the carbon gliders and use motor to climb then off till needed again..
I see it makes more sense to use a throttle… as a stick then a switch more control, … and fly like a plane not a glider
Looking at the flaps on the Cirius, its programmed on 2 settings on one switch… half and full…
I read a few articles and some say that if they had the choice not to go for the cherokee… and go for Cirrus…guess its a choice… My idea is its a cross trainer to lean to land with some flaps.. where the easy glider fly for ever even in a little wind and approaches are interesting.. Nothing to slow it down..
Thanks again for the advice… my 1st joy is the Paragliders as used to fly myself, have the Opale 5.2 and love to fly that… but the club like more quite then the paraglider… :(
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That is correct. However, some glider pilots program the flaps a little differently when they want to have flaps (down) on one switch position and spoilers (up) on another switch position. I adjust one flap setting for very small flap deployment to help the Fox float a bit better and I program full flaps on another switch position for landing. When pilots do competition with their gliders/sailplanes, they have a completely different set up in the TX. Don't select "sailplane" as a "model type" in the menu. Stick with "acro" (normal plane). "Sailplane" mode does all sorts of weird things, one of which is to put the throttle on a switch. It's either OFF or full ON. You don't want that. Then comes all the sailplane mixes that can be very confusing.
As an aside, if you're going to learn "planes", I would suggest considering the Cherokee, rather than the Cirrus, if you're inclined towards that kind of airplane. The Cirrus can be a bit "stall happy" in certain circumstances, far moreso than the Cherokee. Because of the wing shape, the Cherokee is a more stable platform. A couple of us had the Cirrus and my friend could never find success with his, while I had some trouble with mine. It took a few flights to figure out what not to do. One was to NOT use flaps until I figure out just how easily it would stall on approach and keep the power up. Another friend had the Cherokee and it was a much easier plane to deal with.
Paragliders is basically an "elevon" wing type.Leave a comment:
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Thanks for the friendly advice… New to Spektrum radio,,, use futaba normally.. But no AS3x options in Futaba… Normally fly RC Paramodels… so planes and gliders different..I'm not sure that starting a whole new thread is going to get you the answer you want.
This is the most likely thread that you will get an answer if one is out there.
I think there are lots of people who have this plane and use it with a Spektrum TX, perhaps just not with the DX8e. Unless you are trying to do fancy sailplane programming like "crow or reflex", etc, the programming for this glider is quite simple to do on your own. If you do want all the complicated stuff, you may as well go to the Horizon or Spektrum site and see if they have a download for your DX8e for another full house sailplane like the Radian Pro. You can do final program tweaking to suit your own taste. This is something you'd have to do even if someone gives you programming for their Fox Glider. Everyone will have slightly different settings for how they fly and won't give exactly what you want.
Even for simple programming, you can download the files for any airplane with flaps that's on the Spektrum site. But then, that will also need final tweaking. If you're not sure how to do these alterations, using someone else's file may prove to be a dangerous thing.
From what you you say for instance going to learn Planes on a Horizon Cirrus… the same model could be used for the Glider as Flaps…Leave a comment:
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I'm not sure that starting a whole new thread is going to get you the answer you want.
This is the most likely thread that you will get an answer if one is out there.
I think there are lots of people who have this plane and use it with a Spektrum TX, perhaps just not with the DX8e. Unless you are trying to do fancy sailplane programming like "crow or reflex", etc, the programming for this glider is quite simple to do on your own. If you do want all the complicated stuff, you may as well go to the Horizon or Spektrum site and see if they have a download for your DX8e for another full house sailplane like the Radian Pro. You can do final program tweaking to suit your own taste. This is something you'd have to do even if someone gives you programming for their Fox Glider. Everyone will have slightly different settings for how they fly and won't give exactly what you want.
Even for simple programming, you can download the files for any airplane with flaps that's on the Spektrum site. But then, that will also need final tweaking. If you're not sure how to do these alterations, using someone else's file may prove to be a dangerous thing.Leave a comment:
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Anyone a Setup file for the Fox 3mtr for a DX8e transmitter… got the fox on route and have to decide on the Futaba t16sz or change to the dx8e, Checked the sites but not found
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Perfect opportunity to perform the tricky “touch and go” with a sailplane...
I got 2 of them on the Electra last Sunday.Leave a comment:
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Well done! Soft bounces are a thing of beauty on a big sailplane! Man that bird is big! Good job!Leave a comment:
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Flew my 3.0M Fox Glider this morning and got a video. Winds were mild, no thermals. This field is near the international airport, so ceiling for RC is 400 feet. I flew it as a normal powered airplane. Look very impressive due to its size. I've decided to program in some very mild flaps to help it float better when I'm flying it as a "sailplane". I've also got full flaps for landing, so I won't be installing airbrakes after all. As you can see in the video, it lands quite slowly on full flaps and is very easy to predict the glide path.
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