Official Freewing 64mm F-105D Thunderchief

[Husafreak]

[Husafreak]

[Husafreak]

Got me another 64mm line edf;

-painted the intakes red, opened the main vent hes on the fuselage about 3mm, and about 5mm on the rear vents close to the ducted fan. Noticed a significant increase in watts, easy to hand launch w a 2200mah, 1600mah to a 1300mah. IMO the 2200mah is the way to go, flies more scale and no shakiness at low speed, 3:30 to almost 4min.
A thin coating of Elmers glue 75/25 water to protect the decals and get rid off the cheesy shine.
On a 1300mah sport flying, 2:30 minutes.

The CG is like in the guide, 14-3/8, but a slight tail heavy, so slightly, once in the sky will track as other say, like an arrow/dart.

Loops are so so, rolls are stupid snappy. It does blend w the sky, so a good eye and 100% complete attention. I may cut a little of the bottom skid plate, imo is too much fin under the fuselage.

:Cool:

I flew mine with your cheater hole mod, dead easy and the hole is already there, duh! This is a great mod, just that much more power really helps. I flew numerous times yesterday in high gusty winds, 10-15 easy and enough to ground my Skymaster Cougar, but toss and boss with the F-105 was great fun. All of your recommends are right on sir. I have my 1800 pack all the way back and extra servos in the tail so it is as far back as its going to get without lead, added expo, good times. I will repeat that adding servos and having flapperons is pretty awesome. I'll try to add a picture.

[Husafreak]

Finally took the time to get mine together and fly it. It only sat for 6 months... I added a couple of old 9gm Freewing servos behind the stock servos so that I could run elevator only off those and Aileron only off the stock servos. Not much work. The guy sold it to me with an AR400 so I used the four channels for flapperons and elevator with a "Y". Luckily I had a reverse servo so that was easy too. So I have flaps :) And Elevator to Flap mixing. I flew mine with the 5 blade stock fan, 3s 1800 75c LiPo. No gear but added chassis protector tape under the nose and wingtips for protection on our asphalt runways. Recommended CG. First hand launch gentle toss by a buddy, dead calm, flaps up. What fun, she sank to a few feet off the ground and took forever to get going. This is no P.15! But once on step she flew nicely and got going pretty good. It is a beautiful jet and looks cool. I love these smaller "unusual" jets and prop planes that MRC does, thank you!
Rolls well, axial, nice point rolls, inverted, etc . The nose doesn't drop too fast in knife edge so I didn't miss the rudder too terribly. Loops are meh, tight, open, starting from a dive, no matter, she just runs out of speed fast and usually flops over without much control authority. The handling is pretty much exactly as MrVoyagerx described. I did a bunch of flights. The flaps work well, subsequent hand launches with half flaps, a bit of a breeze going (5mph?) and a firm toss were easy. Plenty of time to get on the sticks. Full flaps would pitch up and I considered adding down elevator compensation but once it slows down it got on a nice glide path so maybe not necessary. Best thing is it glides pretty well. I could chop the throttle a long way out, or flatter with power, but either way it is dead easy to hit the landing spot. I'd have to add tail weight to get the CG any further back. I'm seriously considering opening up the cheaters as described. That little bit of extra thrust would be nice for launch or acceleration, and maybe a little help over the top of a loop. It is down on power but goes good once it's going and flies scale like. It is a great looking and fun little jet!

[MrVoyagerx]

Is an arrow w wings, is fast, the cheater does help.

Try flying it a little tai heavy and I would go w a 1600.
I would choose a 5mph to possibly 8mph day to fly it, w some clouds on a somewhat bright sunny day.
Give it more expo than usual, is super twitchy.
Be ready, it gets lost quick and good luck

[Husafreak]

I just bought one of these used from a club member. Have one other FW 64mm the Lippisch P.18 which is a rocket ship ;) I guess this is going to be similar as the P.18 also requires a hard toss to get going. But dissimilar in that the P.18 is not underpowered. Sooo, reading this forum and review, potentially a handful, I’ll stick with stock fan and 3s 1800. Tailerons only sounds like a good idea, not sure I like the aerodynamic implication of the FW control combination of elevator and aileron. It sure looks good! On the P.18 I have a launch preset switch with up elevator, I wonder if something like that would be good for this jet? It has the gear on it but I don’t want to fly it with that. As for opening up the cheater holes I imagine that helps with thrust initially but once on step and flying the drag offset might negate any speed benefit, don’t know. I really want to just fly it stock, KISS principle. But if there’s a consensus on how to make it more fun I’m all ears!

[John Fly Wing]

Very late in this game. Just purchased 2 of the 6 FW f 105's Motion RC had in inventory. Looks like shes had a good 2 year+ run, How many were sold, no telling.
Im a low end foamie , Duck tape kinda pilot, , keep em flying,, old guy, and My wife has the credit cards, soooooolol,,,,i make do.
I served in Air Force with f 4 phantoms, in phllipines.
The THUD is a awsome underated RC modeled plane. MAy be last we will see of foamies 64mm,,,, for $109.00.
Hopefully a 70-90mm will come one day, at any rate, will be posting my life with my 2 105s thuds,
tks Prattville Alabama, Captain John

[Tom Lasko]

Hi everyone, I just ordered this amazing looking little edf.. am planning on dropping a Spektrum AR636A rx in it and using Safe mode to hand launch it ... does anybody have the programming numbers for the elevon setup for me to program my rx that has flown it this way successfully ?? Thanks in advance if anyone has already done this would love the “cliff notes “ on this rx setup

[MrVoyagerx]

I dont know about others who have flown it, this edf its slightly under powered. Gets all squirrely on loops, rolls are super snappy (give it a lot of expo), and adjust the wing controls for low authority. At mid range speed does the usual "wiggle" dance that am used to, I even do it on purpose. The jet feels as if its always hanging from a fine thread. I have had a few "where is it" moments which I have been able to recover from, no other edf does this of been difficult to see, but who knows, maybe its just me.

I wish you good luck on the binding issue

[Boots Whirlygig]

Are you removing the bind plug after you bind?

[mikeb1385]

Voyager:
Thanks for this info. Sounds like sound advise. I will explore the two alternatives you suggested, but I would still like to get the jet at least to function correctly even if I don't fly it right now. Any thoughts on why the jet won't respond to any control input even though I know the binding process was successful"

[MrVoyagerx]

This jet is very difficult to see and fly, for a first EDF. I got a few, this Thunderchief its 100% focus or else it will be invisible very quick. CG got to be perfect

I would standby and get a F15 or the Stinger.

[mikeb1385]

My F105 Thunderchief will not do anything once I bind it. No throttle, not servo movements. I'm not getting the right beeps after I bind, but I do get a successful bind. Can anyone help me. I'm using a Spectrum DX8 Gen2 transmitter and a Spectrum AS400 receiver. This is my first EDF jet. Not real great at the transmitter programing so step by step guide to solving this problem would be great. I have been trying to figure this out on my own for a week now and i know now I need help.

[Boots Whirlygig]

Has anyone flew this on 4s? Looking for some 64mm EDF as I can fly them around the house.

See post #142,

[thisguy65]

Has anyone flew this on 4s? Looking for some 64mm EDF as I can fly them around the house.

[MrVoyagerx]

Am able to fly the Thunderchief,
w 1300, 1600, 1800 and a light 2200 20C, not the heavier 40C 2200.

Its tricky to set the aileron and elevator (ELEVON) setting right w dual rates, using a Futaba 10J w 6 channel Corona receiver, FHSS protocol. Have managed about 15 flights since I received it last Tuesday. I try to run four packs/flights per plane.

Its bone stock, 3S w the 30A brandless ESC. Opened the naca ducts (I think thats how its called) and added half of a spoon piece as a duct painted black. Flies the same, w a little more punch and sounds more realistic of a whoosh sound than the annoying vacuum cleaner noise.

Let me correct, that after a few flights 1800mah is about right, and w good flying envelope, keep the speed up, wings leveled and easy on the elevons when bringing it in, belly lands smoothly. I like how it shakes before dropping a wing, je je, does its wiggle dance as I call. For some reason, this little jet has personality and I like more than the F22 Raptor. Am frustrated that I still need to dial a little more the elevons for loops as so far they are just ugly, as soon as it goes vertical, and yank it to do the loop, the plane is all over tumbling in the sky, which besides elevon not set correctly, is a sign of lacking power.

I still like my little Thunderchief, its one of those to always bring along and enjoy it at half to full throttle darting across the field and its unique landing.

[MrVoyagerx]

A shot side by side w a Eflite F15 4S veersion and SAFE select system

[Gilatrout]

Mine just never was satisfactory. I blame the altitude. Field is 5000+ and in the summer air density can be North of 8000ft.

Not enough power to hand launch, so have to use the gear. Roll out on take off was scale, needing several 100ft to get to airspeed. Once it was.up to speed it was ok.

All these 64mm need a 4s option for us thin air folks. I'd definitely get a new one if it were 4s

[scootergenie]

Alpha..... Now that's how a Thud should look !

[MrVoyagerx]

Got me another 64mm line edf;

-painted the intakes red, opened the main vent hes on the fuselage about 3mm, and about 5mm on the rear vents close to the ducted fan. Noticed a significant increase in watts, easy to hand launch w a 2200mah, 1600mah to a 1300mah. IMO the 2200mah is the way to go, flies more scale and no shakiness at low speed, 3:30 to almost 4min.
A thin coating of Elmers glue 75/25 water to protect the decals and get rid off the cheesy shine.
On a 1300mah sport flying, 2:30 minutes.

The CG is like in the guide, 14-3/8, but a slight tail heavy, so slightly, once in the sky will track as other say, like an arrow/dart.

Loops are so so, rolls are stupid snappy. It does blend w the sky, so a good eye and 100% complete attention. I may cut a little of the bottom skid plate, imo is too much fin under the fuselage.

:Cool: