HSD F-16 105mm EDF Jet

[spec450]

I'd like to see someone get really creative with the paint. I know everyone loves the arctic camouflage livery, but the 18th and 64th Aggressor Squadrons have several awesome patterns. Especially the next Russian "splinter" patterns in blue. It'll be worth the effort I think since the plane is so big.

[Aros]

Toucan Hobby has one remaining on eBay...You can even make an offer...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HSD-Arctic-1...oAAOSwo4pYdYtC

[Blewbayou]

wow, just saw the turbine version of this on BH ...what I big markup for that version...with no turbine included...so, apparently its a different type of foam that makes the plane almost double in cost?

I believe it's same foam from my understanding. $500 more, has carbon fiber composites, heavier wiring, plus turbine specific equip. It's strucuraly stronger than the edf version.

[TSHobbies]

wow, just saw the turbine version of this on BH ...what I big markup for that version...with no turbine included...so, apparently its a different type of foam that makes the plane almost double in cost?

[Blewbayou]

Yeah, I just like to know what I have and how it works. I like to tinker with my planes and see what works and what doesn't. It's all personal preference on what you want.
I have an eagle tree guardian in my 1700mm p51 and like it, this gyro in hsd is no where near the guardian from what I can tell, just a gain knob.

[Blewbayou]

I looked for 10 min to try and help out on the gyro but
came up empty. Agree they should make a vidio
for the customer.

Pete

I did to, I have a text to BH, see what they have.

[Aros]

I've heard both sides of the fence...Some like the gyro but it seems like most don't even use it. I think out of the 15 or so flights I had with it I used the gyro maybe 3 times. I activated the throttle/elevator mix finally just to see if I could tell a difference. The only thing I noticed was it climbing more when adding power. Never understood the need for that throttle/elevator mix.

[Pete Lane]

I looked for 10 min to try and help out on the gyro but
came up empty. Agree they should make a vidio
for the customer.

Pete

[Blewbayou]

I really had to adjust my rates so ailerons weren't so sensitive. Maybe 40% or something like that. Before I had them at 80% or something and it was waaaaaay too much throw.

I'm starting out with the rates you had posted in an earlier post and go from there.

[Aros]

I really had to adjust my rates so ailerons weren't so sensitive. Maybe 40% or something like that. Before I had them at 80% or something and it was waaaaaay too much throw.

[Blewbayou]

Trying to remember the gyro...I didn't fuss with it much. I had it turned on and activated via a rocker switch on my radio. When I did activate it I would turn the rocker switch to about 1/4 or so. I never noticed any difference with the gyro on or off for the record.

As for balancing, right side up gear down.

thanks, I was curious about the gyro, I have an eagle tree in my mustang.

the only bad thing about this plane is lack of instructions on things like the gyro or information on the stock mixes, all it says is recommended to fly in mode 2, what ever that is. I think dymond had a post on there Facebook about what they are, can't seem to find it anywhere else.

[Aros]

Trying to remember the gyro...I didn't fuss with it much. I had it turned on and activated via a rocker switch on my radio. When I did activate it I would turn the rocker switch to about 1/4 or so. I never noticed any difference with the gyro on or off for the record.

As for balancing, right side up gear down.

[Blewbayou]

Another question, do you balance right side up or upside down with gear extended.

[Blewbayou]

What I can say without a doubt is HSD provides a nicely packaged plane and quality is the best I've seen on a foam airplane.
I finally decided to assemble my f16 since I finished my 1700mm p51. The mustang had the typical packaging damaged I've seen on other ones for a couple years, I had to fix these and touch up the paint best I could, got it close, but I'm redoing as a blue nose this winter. Top of the mustang fuselage where the halves are joined had a nice 3" gap I had to fill with glue, touch up etc. Then the delicate foam, very easy to get hanger rash, so i have a lot of time in the mustang.
the HSD f16 is excellent out of the box, no damage, foam is way tougher, paint is very nice except white isn't white. Very easy to go together, most work is done by HSD.
only areas that I don't like is the foam gear doors, other than that, worth the price in my opinion. Again, the foam density is outstanding for foam.
my only question is there are no instructions for the gyro, I see it is hooked to a knob, I assume is the gain. Can someone give me a quick rundown on the function of the gyro?

[Aros]

Toucanhobby.com is the place to go if people want a shot at one if they don't want to wait for them to get back in stock (or will they ever truly be IN stock) at BH. That's where I got mine, and was the first one in the US to get the Arctic Camo theme as far as I know. I've sent at least four people their way since and each of them said they worked great for them. You can even finagle a price. Now this was last year so I don't know if it's still the same.

[Blewbayou]

Yeah, I've been waiting 5 months to get one, so it was nice to luck out. Doesn't appear anyone else is going to sell this jet other than BH in this country and appears it's going to be hard to get unless you want to deal with an overseas dealer in Singapore or china. You can find turbine versions, but not edf.

[Aros]

Nice!

[Blewbayou]

So did Banana ever get more of them in stock? Last I checked it was still on pre-order...

No, the order that came in was a sold out pre order, I happen to call checking on another order and asked when they would have any in stock, they told me that they had just got the sold out order in and had 1 arctic extra from the order so i bought the extra.

[Afterburner01]

I have one of these jets and just couldn't leave it alone. I bought it off rcgroups a few months ago and got it for 300 bucks and its a version 2 with 100 flights with the oil gear the gear blocks were re glued in I figured it was a bad landing. I built the conformal slipper tanks to convert it to a Block 60 F-16 and added pylons and ordinance from my 1/8 F-15 that I had an ordinance kit for .I had a set of ferry tanks from a Byron F-16 that got used in the build and I made silicon molds of the bombs and made MERs and TERs and poured the new parts out of 2 part foam and spackling and a coat of minwax. They look great Im expecting a 2 minute hop for the shake down flight Im not using the gyro Ive seen too many crashes soo far when they fail but Im using 50c 5300mah 6s packs and the 16- amp Castle ESC with the cooling fan was going to modify the inlet to get the area rule for the intake to the fan correct but the darn foam is too thin and now seeing the problems with the retract blocks pulling out thanks guys btw I will have to go another route . Hoping to get the bugs out early

[Aros]

So did Banana ever get more of them in stock? Last I checked it was still on pre-order...