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  • LX 1.2M F4F Wildcat Review

    I just picked up the LX Wildcat and have put several flights on it over the weekend. I figured I would post a review and try to address the positives, negatives, and mods required for this plane. With its unique retracts and folding wings it is certainly an interesting subject. It is available in 2 different paint schemes, a prewar and the standard Navy paint scheme.

    Price: $206.90 + $24 Shipping
    Specifications:
    Wingspan: 47.2" (1200mm)
    Weight: 60 oz.
    Length: 35.6" (903mm)
    Servos: 4 17g Metal Gear servos
    Battery: 4S 2200mah
    Motor: 3748-700Kv Brushless Outrunner
    ESC: 50A
    Prop 12 x 6 3-blade prop
    Assembly
    Everything on the Wildcat went together pretty smoothly. All you have to do is put in the wing hinge pins, epoxy the tail surfaces and canopy, and install horns/linkages. The plane was ready to go in about 2 hrs. Be sure to balance the prop. The stock prop was pretty far out of balance for me. Also, no pilot is included. I bought one from the spare parts section and repainted it.

    Paint and Finish
    The paint scheme for this model is certainly not the most accurate or well done. It is adequate from stand off, but it the color is off and markings are missing. Not sure why the stock one says "Junior" either.. This is what it should look like:

    However, a modeler could fix this with an airbrush and some Callie Graphics. The other thing to be aware of is that the paint does flake off. I highly recommend taking a wing by Home Depot or Lowes to get it paint matched before you start assembly. In high movement areas like the wing joint the stock paint will come off immediately, so its good to have some touch up paint laying around. Also, the radial comes painted in light blue. I repainted my engine with some model master paints to better its appearance.

    Retracts and Wing Fold
    These are the two most interesting traits of the model. So far, they appear to work very well. The gear are driven by two micro brushed motors and a gearbox that make them retract just like the full scale version. They work very well, and are capable of taking even not-so-great landings without a hitch. They are also extremely fast in deployment /retraction speed. This cannot be slowed unless you add very strategically placed resistors in the retract control board, which I am not inclined to try for now. Also, if you do ever have to replace the retracts, it will involve a lot of foam surgery as the mechanism is glued deep inside the fuselage. The wing fold works by utilizing a folding hinge similar to the full scale, and a small spring loaded door to cover the bottom of the hinge system. A small sliding pin locks the wings in the folded and deployed positions. The grip on the pin can then be tightened to prevent any unintended movement. This is shown in the pictures. Both sides of the hinge joint are large pieces of molded plastic. I suggest giving these a shakedown as part of the preflight. The last thing you want is to have that joint fail in flight! However, with the gear up and the wings folded it is very transportable! It is one of the only models that can fit in the passenger seat easily.

    Battery and RX Compartments
    There are separate battery and RX compartments on the model. The RX compartment is the black grate on the bottom of the plane. It works fine, but the black grate detracts from the scale appearance of the model. The battery compartment on this model is right in front of the canopy. You will not get anything larger than a 4S 2200 in there at all. In fact, that can even depend on your brand. My Admiral Pro 4S 2200 fit fine, but my Turnigy HD 2200 4S did not fit at all. Some slight widening with a razor should fix that though.

    Flight Characteristics
    Overall, this plane is a real joy to fly. I flew 4 flights in gusting 10-15 mph winds and it handled them without any issues. Power is very good, and scale maneuvers like big loops are no problem. I was really surprised at how well the stock system performed. Flight times are about 5 min with 14% remaining. Stall characteristic in level flight were very nice, just simply dropped the nose. Speed is pretty good as well. I did not have a radar gun, but it was very comparable to my Durafly Spitfire MK1's top speed. Just keep your wings level for landing, or you might ground loop with the narrow gear. Also, I suggest keeping a limit on high-G maneuvers to keep the stress off of the wing fold. The mechanism seems sturdy enough, by I personally wouldn't tempt fate too much. Here are the settings I used for flight:

    CG: 65mm(2.5") from LE
    Aileron:8mm Low, 14mm High
    Elevator:10mm Low, 17 mm High
    Rudder:14mm Low, 18mm High
    20% Expo on all surfaces

    Overall
    In my opinion, this is the best foam rendition of a Wildcat out there. It has very nice handling, and can be transported very easily. The scale retracts are works of art, and it has good stock power. Just be aware of the issues with paint, and keep an eye on the wing fold mechanism. It is an LX model, and they almost always demand more work and attention than other brands like freewing or FMS. The price is a bit high for the quality compared to a FlightlineRC or FMS model, but it is worth it for such a unique airplane in my opinion.



  • #2
    Thanks for this great review. I've been looking at this model. I love the Wildcat. It's my favorite Navy WW2 fighter along with the Corsair.

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    • #3
      A buddy that I fly with has one, he seems to like it. The narrow gear can make for interesting landings in a crosswind.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by dkalwishky View Post
        A buddy that I fly with has one, he seems to like it. The narrow gear can make for interesting landings in a crosswind.
        Yeah, it is very similar to landing a Spitfire or P-40 in that regard. Some flaps would be a nice addition to slow the landing speed a bit. But, as long as you are careful on approach, its not too much of an issue.

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        • #5
          Let me add my thanks for this review as well. This is one of the planes on my bucket list, and have been thinking about for a year. This and a P-38 too! At one time, MRC was thinking about carrying LX, but haven't heard anything more in months.

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          • #6
            Yeah we need mrc to carry lx. Last I heard they where unwilling to upgrade their electronics so it was a no go on MRC behalf. Maybe we could get them to carry kit only? I want the b25 but the fruit people scary me.
            AMA 1102566

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            • #7
              oops double post.
              AMA 1102566

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AkumaZeto View Post
                Yeah we need mrc to carry lx. Last I heard they where unwilling to upgrade their electronics so it was a no go on MRC behalf. Maybe we could get them to carry kit only? I want the b25 but the fruit people scary me.
                They have been much better lately but I only go to them if it's something I can't get from MRC. I have noticed that BH and HK have been much better lately, I think it's a result of MRC being so customer focused they're really feeling the competition.
                TiredIron Aviation
                Tired Iron Military Vehicles

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TiredIronGRB View Post

                  They have been much better lately but I only go to them if it's something I can't get from MRC. I have noticed that BH and HK have been much better lately, I think it's a result of MRC being so customer focused they're really feeling the competition.
                  I agree, and have noticed the same. I would love to see LX models carried by Motion. There are a few out there with very good airframes and decent power (B-25, Wildcat, YF-23). However, I can see why Motion would have trouble dealing with them. They lack good QC, and their paint work certainly needs an overhaul. Their electronics are getting better, but many of their older planes had hardly enough thrust to get off the runway. Even their new brakes on the planes have a tendency to burn out immediatly if not correctly set up. Maybe if they were willing to work with motion to make improvements, things would be fine.

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                  • #10
                    An update on the Wildcat: On Sunday I was getting ready to fly again, and noticed the motor felt rough and made noise when when turned by hand. After removing the cowl, I saw that a magnet had come loose on the motor already! I contacted Banana, and actually had a good experience with their CS, and they are going to send a replacement motor. I think after Motion's success, they have realized that customer service does make a difference! In the mean time, I will disassemble the old motor and reattach the magnet with some JB weld. Hopefully it will be back in the air Saturday.

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                    • #11
                      Ah. Saw your video today. Good to see that Banana is going to send a new one. I agree that Motion's customer service has made others change their game.

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                      • #12
                        That is good to hear about Banana and their customer service. I have avoided ordering from them until now, but really want this F4F, so I think I might give them a try. Wish MRC would carry LX though...

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                        • #13
                          Thanks for the great review, very thorough and informative.

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                          • #14
                            Glad to help! I may write a few more of the not-carried-by-motion airplanes in the future. Since Motion actually tests and helps in the development of their models, I don't think an extensive review of those is nessecary. Generally, Alpha provides those flight reviews already! I have a few other models I could review next if anyone is interested: Hobbyking Lancaster, Durafly Spitfire Mk1, Durafly Skyraider, LX F-35, or FSK Mosquito. I will update this review when my new motor arrives. Also, for Banana's support, I recommend using their text system. It seems to yield the fastest response.

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                            • #15
                              Well, I must have missed the sale on this. The price is back up to $249. Ratz!

                              Anyway, do you think the ailerons need to be so long? I'm wondering how the performance would be if they were shortened up. I'm thinking of buying the kit now. I'd have time to mess around with flap mods and repainting while I saved money to buy the motor and ESC I would want in this.

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                              • #16
                                I'm not sure, I'll check how much travel I have in the ailerons when I get home. It would be nice to reduce them to scale size though, and would make addition of flaps more practical.

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                                • #17
                                  I think that is a great idea Delta dart. I think any reviews on different plane's would be well received. That's the great thing about Motion. They said that anything rc is okay. Besides it can help sale's of plane's at motion when people know that the might not bee getting such good quality else where.
                                  Dewey l

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                                  • #18
                                    I just checked my aileron travel, and it is at 59% on low rates and 98% on high rates. This is with the linkage farthest from the servo and farthest away on the control arm. All but one of my flights has been entirely made low rates, so the size could probably be reduced.I would not go all the way back down to scale size though, maybe cut it at one panel line over from the scale size. I will try to do another review over the weekend on another model, not sure which one yet. If you prefer one from the list in my earlier post, let me know!

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                                    • #19
                                      Tell us about those birds

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                                      • #20
                                        Well, I'll sort them by category and explain a few of the details for each:

                                        PNF: Durafly Spitfire MK1 and Skyraider. Both are excellent out of the box fliers with great detail, especially the Spitfire. These are definitely up there with FMS quality, no mods required. Both are 1100mm span.

                                        PNF with optional mods, can be a bit of work: Hobbyking Lancaster. It is a a decent out of the airplane, 1320mm Span, but is requires flying very fast and non-scale. Also has a tendency to tip stall out of the box, however power and detail are great out of the box. These flying characteristics can be be modded to be very forgiving and allow slow flight if you are willing to put in the time.

                                        Pure Kit: LX F-35 and FSK Mosquito. The reason I put the LX F-35 in this category is because it should only be bought as a kit. It is the most scale looking foam F-35 out there, but will take a lot of effort and mods to get it in the air. The Mosquito is a molded depron kit with the best surface finish you can imagine on a foam plane. All of the cockpit detail pieces are vacuformed plastic and can allow for extremely detailed builds. It was designed as a fixed gear or belly lander airplane and for nihms and brushed motor. It will take work to bring the airframe up to speed, but it is a great flying plane. I added full retracts, gear doors, and a tail retract to mine.

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