San Diego battle 6 November, Modern A.I.M.

[RichJohnson]

I with the popularity of the modern theme utilizing A.I.M. protocol we have taken the modern theme from an annual event to quarterly.

Sunday 6 November
Mission Bay park South Shores boat ramp

[Rubicon99]

Working up something new to bring to this event.

[SoCalBobS]

I brushed of the dirt (literally) from my 8 year old Phantom 2/Hero 3 setup to see how it might be used Sunday. These four shots were from 12 to 20 feet away, cropped to erase the landing gear. The "action cam" fisheye lens makes things look farther away than they are, but we should be able to get some battlefield shots.

Fifteen feet away:




Maybe 10' distance:


This one was from only 20' away.

[Rubicon99]

I brushed of the dirt (literally) from my 8 year old Phantom 2/Hero 3 setup to see how it might be used Sunday. These four shots were from 12 to 20 feet away, cropped to erase the landing gear. The "action cam" fisheye lens makes things look farther away than they are, but we should be able to get some battlefield shots.

Fifteen feet away:




Maybe 10' distance:


This one was from only 20' away.

👍👍

[RichJohnson]

Cool.
I was thinking it would be cool to get one of the small drones with the follow me function and put the tracker in the tank and have it follow the tank around our field.
more money is needed haha.

[SoCalBobS]

Cool.
I was thinking it would be cool to get one of the small drones with the follow me function and put the tracker in the tank and have it follow the tank around our field.
more money is needed haha.

Yep, all it takes is money....

[Rubicon99]

Date for the battle is getting close. Don’t forget it’s the start day light saving that weekend so remember to set your clocks so you are not too early.

[Rubicon99]

Just heard that a few members of the SD tank club members are bringing a bunch of quality tank parts and some Tamiya tanks that are up for sale at reasonably low prices. They need to make room on their work benches and shelves.

[Zippersnapper]

I brushed of the dirt (literally) from my 8 year old Phantom 2/Hero 3 setup to see how it might be used Sunday. These four shots were from 12 to 20 feet away, cropped to erase the landing gear. The "action cam" fisheye lens makes things look farther away than they are, but we should be able to get some battlefield shots.

Fifteen feet away:




Maybe 10' distance:


This one was from only 20' away.

Sweet Bob. I'll be looking for that footage.


BTW: https://flylitchi.com/

[SoCalBobS]

Well, I took some photos and video, but quality is quite low. It's of a tan clay field with mostly tan tanks, and the operators were usually close to their vehicles which prevented me from getting up close. That mostly, and the fisheye camera I used yielded disappointing results. Anyway, here are some overheads of the field we use:




And some fleeting images of tanks:

[SoCalBobS]

Here are some video clips of our battlefield during the November A.I.M battle event. The same quality issues exist as in the above post. The tanks look like ants! The day was perfect though, just average for San Diego! (Dig, dig).

[Rubicon99]

A few photos from the Nov 2022 San Diego tank battle day.

[RichJohnson]

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[ArmorBolt]

To join the tank IR battle, I have a HL tank, so do I buy the LEGO DEI circle(360) or cross(45). Can someone explain the differences. Thanks.

[Rubicon99]

To join the tank IR battle, I have a HL tank, so do I buy the LEGO DEI circle(360) or cross(45). Can someone explain the differences. Thanks.

To start buy the 360.

Why? The simple answer is you can’t install it in the wrong orientation as it will receive hits from 360 degrees. Most of my HL tanks are set up with these. It does make your tank a little easier to hit but when you are starting out in battling that is actually a good thing because you quickly learn how not to get hit.

The “cross” or 45 degree shade has to be installed with one of the four IR receiver bulbs facing forward. People often mistake the colored LED bulbs for the IR bulbs (which are smaller and black) and oriented the receiver incorrectly. An incorrect orientation will result in your tank not receiving hits in a fair manner as other.

**There is a good installation thread here on the forum done by SoCalBobs. If you do a search for threads started by Bob you will find it.

What does the “cross” actually do? The cross limits the angles from which your tank can receive hits past a given range (typical 25ft and out). The standard battling / “Tamiya protocol” for orientation is to be able to receive hits from the direct front of the turret 12 o’clock, sides of the turret 3 and 9 o’clock and rear 6 o’clock position. The cross shade allows for this when properly installed.

Other players expect tanks to receive hits according to the Tamiya protocol so when a tank does not and no one is informed beforehand of the miss orientation then issues come up. Hence why it is recommended to go with the 360 shade as your first IR receiver set up.

A.I.M. protocols as used in San Diego on this thread for tank battling are a little different then Tamiya protocols and are “theme battle” specific. Typically ONLY used for modern/Cold War tank battles. A.I.M. is designed to make hits harder to achieve and forces a maneuvering battle to gain angles of fire. A.I.M. also allows for faster firing and top end driving speeds.

[oldwolf]

To start buy the 360.

Why? The simple answer is you can’t install it in the wrong orientation as it will receive hits from 360 degrees. Most of my HL tanks are set up with these. It does make your tank a little easier to hit but when you are starting out in battling that is actually a good thing because you quickly learn how not to get hit.

The “cross” or 45 degree shade has to be installed with one of the four IR receiver bulbs facing forward. People often mistake the colored LED bulbs for the IR bulbs (which are smaller and black) and oriented the receiver incorrectly. An incorrect orientation will result in your tank not receiving hits in a fair manner as other.

**There is a good installation thread here on the forum done by SoCalBobs. If you do a search for threads started by Bob you will find it.

What does the “cross” actually do? The cross limits the angles from which your tank can receive hits past a given range (typical 25ft and out). The standard battling / “Tamiya protocol” for orientation is to be able to receive hits from the direct front of the turret 12 o’clock, sides of the turret 3 and 9 o’clock and rear 6 o’clock position. The cross shade allows for this when properly installed.

Other players expect tanks to receive hits according to the Tamiya protocol so when a tank does not and no one is informed beforehand of the miss orientation then issues come up. Hence why it is recommended to go with the 360 shade as your first IR receiver set up.

A.I.M. protocols as used in San Diego on this thread for tank battling are a little different then Tamiya protocols and are “theme battle” specific. Typically ONLY used for modern/Cold War tank battles. A.I.M. is designed to make hits harder to achieve and forces a maneuvering battle to gain angles of fire. A.I.M. also allows for faster firing and top end driving speeds.

Interestingly, at the competitive tank battle held at Tamiya Fair in Japan this past Saturday, all the tanks were set to light tank, which is what A.I.M. protocol uses. Naturally, they didnt use any of the other A.I.M. protocol rules but I thought it was quite interesting the folks at Tamiya realize that setting makes for a more fun battle.

[Rubicon99]

Tamiya does read the forums. A.I.M. was posted on a few others forums too. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[RichJohnson]

Tamiya does pay attention to what the organized clubs are doing and what people do with their product.