Turbine Engines and Turbine Jets offered by Motion RC?

[T-CAT]

Motion RC,

With the introduction of balsa propeller aircraft now offered by Motion RC, and gas engines, this is a great evolution of the variety of products offered. It's great to see something other than foam electric aircraft, although I of course love foam electric aircraft as well.

Although it's likely Motion RC cannot or would not share this information if this is already in progress for many reasons :P, but I would like to make a request for Motion RC to sell turbine engines and turbine airframes, both composite (or composite/balsa mix) and foam turbine ready airframes.

It would be a massive undertaking with a lot of logistics, such as partnering with a turbine manufacturer and servicing center that suits Motion RC's core values for offering reliable engines, ensuring efficient and trustworthy maintenanc/repairs, etc. It's a tough business, but who knows, with the thoughtful business moves and progression seen over the years by Motion RC, maybe this is something that has potential to come to fruition in the future if the stars align.

[Desertlakeflying]

As long as they partner with Kingtech I'd be all for it.

[Patrnflyr]

I agree 100%

[scootergenie]

Same here. Would love to see offerings of a turbine nature at my favorite vendor...Motion RC !

[T-CAT]

Woohoo, that's four of us already! :Cool::)

I know of many more who like this idea (but do not post online) as well after talking about it to them.

[Pete Lane]

My answer is baked in ;)

[T-CAT]

Ha-ha. I like that. :Cool:

[T-CAT]

In addition to my oroginal post, some more thoughts below. With new releases in the small and light turbine class, there are great candidate coming into existence for Motion RC to investigate for partnership. Some new turbines shown weigh roughly what a 90mm EDF with inrunner power system does (or less). This begins to open up more possibilies of what can be achieved with various airframes, as well as in a cost effective package for a turbine ready jet.

What I imagine is Freewing and Motion RC providing foam and composite (or composite/balsa combinations) airframes that are more or less turbine ready or almost turbine ready. They don't necessary need to have accessories such as the pipe, fuel tank, etc., unless possible. The foam airframes could already be molded properly for placement of the turbine and fuel tank for achievable weight distribution. These new turbines with their small form factor and lightweight nature are making foam turbine aircraft and conversions of electric to turbine power system more possible.

In my opinion, Freewing and Motion RC have done an incredible job advancing the EDF jet market in incredible ways. When I buy a jet, I know what to expect and the development of aircraft has continued to improve and impress me over the years. It would be great to have a company like Motion RC to be the company I can buy well engineered EDF jets AND turbine jets from, all while experiencing the solid customer service I've come to expect and enjoy. When I go to flying fields, Freewing foam EDF jets are more prevalent now than ever before. So, maybe there is potential to also capture and support another sector of the jet market, small foam turbine and small composite/balsa turbine.

[Petronio]

I would be in too for bigger turbine models from FW / Mrc :)

[crxmanpat]

I just moved into turbines myself, and would be totally on board with MRC carrying turbines and turbine jets!

[Patrnflyr]

As some of you already know, we've been discussing this in a different thread:https://www.hobbysquawk.com/forum/rc...ne-conversions

I finally broke down and bought another turbine, the K30. We'll be embarking on something entirely new since our turbine models start at 120 size and have gone up to 200 sized before. We only have four at the present time and have been flying since the early 90's. Watched the propane JPX change the industry to what we have now.

I hope to be putting this eventually a Havoc Xe but will wait for the conversion kit. For now, we'll be modifying an FW F-22 and see how that goes. Learn on the way. Lots of advice on our thread for conversions.

It would be nice to have turbine ready models also as this thread addresses.

[ggetzoff]

As some of you already know, we've been discussing this in a different thread:https://www.hobbysquawk.com/forum/rc...ne-conversions

I finally broke down and bought another turbine, the K30. We'll be embarking on something entirely new since our turbine models start at 120 size and have gone up to 200 sized before. We only have four at the present time and have been flying since the early 90's. Watched the propane JPX change the industry to what we have now.

I hope to be putting this eventually a Havoc Xe but will wait for the conversion kit. For now, we'll be modifying an FW F-22 and see how that goes. Learn on the way. Lots of advice on our thread for conversions.

It would be nice to have turbine ready models also as this thread addresses.

You may already be aware, but there is a thread here on a FW F-22 turbine conversion. Instead of a bifurcated pipe, his conversion only exhausts out of one nozzle, with no apparent asymmetry.

Cheers,

Greg

[dv8r1961]

I would love to see Motion RC offer some of the Free wing Jets ready for a small turbine and also offer some of the larger foam jets kind of like the ones offered by HSD and AF Models. I wish Free wing would make larger versions of their jets that were Turbine ready for 60 size turbines.

[Gilatrout]

Oh sure, give motion another way to take all my money. Thanks a lot guys.

[Aros]

While I haven't been privy to discussions behind the scenes regarding offering turbine product one way or the other, I am all for it. Especially if they are becoming relatively more affordable/lightweight that would make it feasible to operate in the 90mm class range/size of jets. Alpha has outlined the reasons why we haven't ventured beyond the 90mm EDF jet size (you can read his explanation in this Knowledge Blog article) but if there's a market for it, it's certainly worth exploring!

[crxmanpat]

I remember not too long ago when a turbine was a minimum of $5K just for the engine. Now you can get a nice size jet that's just about turnkey for the same price. Heck, I recently got a used FEJ 1:8 F-16 with a Kingtech G-100 with low time for $2100. Sure, the plane needs a little TLC (not much), but I bet the G-100 cost more than that when it was new. I have two turbine planes right now with plans to get more. I would love it if MRC started carrying some turbines! As we've seen with Jan and some others, converting some of these 90mm and twin-80mm jets over to small turbines is not difficult and works well.

[Patrnflyr]

While I haven't been privy to discussions behind the scenes regarding offering turbine product one way or the other, I am all for it. Especially if they are becoming relatively more affordable/lightweight that would make it feasible to operate in the 90mm class range/size of jets. Alpha has outlined the reasons why we haven't ventured beyond the 90mm EDF jet size (you can read his explanation in this Knowledge Blog article) but if there's a market for it, it's certainly worth exploring!

Well, after reading the blog post, I can understand the standard sized molds for the foam kits, but the free shipping part doesn't pan out. If that was the case, why do you offer free shipping on huge kits such as the Black Horse or Pro Fly models like the OV-10? I can easily see a 2 part fuselage on a larger F-22 where the nose piece is separate from the wing box. It's very common in our larger turbine PNP kits and it's doable. Whether its marketable is another story. In my opinion, The biggest problem for the average modeler in this venture is the gathering of parts like the fuel tank, UAT, wheel brakes, turbine pipe and mount, etc with a lot of trial and error. Where I see Motion's success is their ability to produce "turn key" models where modelers are almost guaranteed a great flying plane without much work. If they could just make a "conversion kit" of the all the needed parts to use in their existing models, like the F-22, it would be considered a success. I guarantee you the Horizon guys are already deep into the conversion of the eHavoc right now. They can see an opportunity with all these new turbines from Kingtech and Gaspar and who knows where we'll be in a couple of years. The KingTech 45 is now the size of the 30 so what will the G3 30 size be in a year?!? I know there are a few modelers who like to experiment with dozens of Facebook/Youtube posts but many of us just want to go out and fly with a plane that'll work...

[RichJ53]

While I haven't been privy to discussions behind the scenes regarding offering turbine product one way or the other, I am all for it. Especially if they are becoming relatively more affordable/lightweight that would make it feasible to operate in the 90mm class range/size of jets. Alpha has outlined the reasons why we haven't ventured beyond the 90mm EDF jet size (you can read his explanation in this Knowledge Blog article) but if there's a market for it, it's certainly worth exploring!

Hi Aros

I was thinking that MRC could engineer some turbine conversion kits for the 80-90 EDF"s they already make. a few guys are taking the conversion process on, but it would make sense to help gain more interest. The K45 and the new X45 turbines would open up many new mini jets projects. My Xicoy X45 has 10lbs of thrust and weighs less then a pound.

The P20 turbine can fit in many of the 70mm jets, wouldn't that be cool to see.

Rich

[T-CAT]

I agree about the Xicoy X45 as an engine of that size and weight truly begins to open doors for more easily achieved turbine conversions of the Freewing 80-90mm EDF jets.

[Aros]

I am all for it!