Official Black Horse Models Announcement Thread

[Oxotnik]

I have ordered my (first) HE-111 today! I can't wait to get her on the table. More bombers please, Alpha and Stuart! (Betty, Betty, Betty!)



Bob

Bob, I have a Graupner He-111 that I'd picked up at a swap meet. It's quickly become one of my favorite planes and is one of the best warbird purchases that I've made. If I didn't already have a 111, I'd be all over the BH 111. I wish that I could get a Ju-88 in the same size, to go with my 111.

Can never have too many twins...

[Oxotnik]

It's an important point to emphasize that while our initial selection online of Black Horse models is generally somewhat limited, our exclusive distribution of Black Horse in North America does allow us access to the ENTIRE product line of their products. So, if there's an existing Black Horse model you want that isn't on our product pages, such as the Do-335 as mentioned above, please post here or contact our CS Team to designate what you want and we'll add it among our upcoming shipments.

I've flown most of their aircraft at the factory and I have my favorites.

I stumbled onto your new Black Horse line, when I clicked on New Airplanes on the Motion website yesterday, and I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw the Black Horse Line. I was disappointed to not see the Do-335. So, I'm very happy to read that it's a possibility that you might add the Pfeil to your BH offerings. I'm VERY tempted by the Storch, but I'd rather wait on a Do-335, if there's a chance that it could be added to the Motion catalog.

[Woodcock]

I'm not real pleased with the strut option being offered for this model. One look at this picture will explain why.

Woody

[OV10]

Are ther going to be other XWave retract offerings like 80 and 85 degree in the 60 -120 sizes?

My thoughts too Tony ;)
I'd also like to know if XWave has a 90 degree rotation so that the plastic bodied versions from FMS and FL can be upgraded.
Desperately are needed for the Corsair, Hellcat, Warhawk, etc airframes.

[Twowingtj]

Are ther going to be other XWave retract offerings like 80 and 85 degree in the 60 -120 sizes?

[tengarang]

Hey, just got up here in Europe and checking back through the threads. teng the strut included with the He-111 is a standard oleo strut, which is still nice to have. I'm sure someone could get a FW strut to fit, that would be nice to see but would require further cutting of the gear doors (covers, they are not actually doors on the BH HE-111). The RM400-90 retracts are intended to be used with this model and the PC-9, so should fit right in.

Attached are drawings of the included strut from the manual that is on our site.

S.

THanks Stuart your feedback along with Alpha's helps alot. drawing is helpful too.
teng

[Spitfire4life]

Hey, just got up here in Europe and checking back through the threads. teng the strut included with the He-111 is a standard oleo strut, which is still nice to have. I'm sure someone could get a FW strut to fit, that would be nice to see but would require further cutting of the gear doors (covers, they are not actually doors on the BH HE-111). The RM400-90 retracts are intended to be used with this model and the PC-9, so should fit right in.

Attached are drawings of the included strut from the manual that is on our site.

S.

[tengarang]

I have another question about the HE-111 kit. according to black horses website, it says the struts are included. WHile I can't find pictures to confirm, can I expect the oleos to be scale-like as an example shown in the picture of the 1400mm mosquito?

[tengarang]

Off the top of my head, 10-15 size retracts work but I'd use 25 sized or even slightly larger, something like what the F7F Tigercat or Freewing 80mm A-10 uses. The plywood mounting plates aren't predrilled so there's lots of versatility in selecting the exact retract unit to use. Fixed gear is an option, too, although I'd make Tigercat main retracts fit if I planned on flying the He-111 as a daily driver.

Thank you, alpha!

[Alpha]

Off the top of my head, 10-15 size retracts work but I'd use 25 sized or even slightly larger, something like what the F7F Tigercat or Freewing 80mm A-10 uses. The plywood mounting plates aren't predrilled so there's lots of versatility in selecting the exact retract unit to use. Fixed gear is an option, too, although I'd make Tigercat main retracts fit if I planned on flying the He-111 as a daily driver.

[tengarang]

Black Horse's 2300mm Stuka is a blast to fly. Its size really conveys the presence better than the smaller version, in my opinion.

We've received some requests from people already to stock Black Horse's recent Zero, Typhoon, Pfiel (Do-335) and MiG. Their Viperjet is big and beautiful, too, again in my opinion.

Keep the requests coming to 224-633-9090. In fact someone should start a Black Horse Wishlist thread.

Been tryin to catch an answer from you about the retracts for the he111. Would you please check and let me know?

[Alpha]

Black Horse's 2300mm Stuka is a blast to fly. Its size really conveys the presence better than the smaller version, in my opinion.

We've received some requests from people already to stock Black Horse's recent Zero, Typhoon, Pfiel (Do-335) and MiG. Their Viperjet is big and beautiful, too, again in my opinion.

Keep the requests coming to 224-633-9090. In fact someone should start a Black Horse Wishlist thread.

[OV10]

Man that Mig-29 looks sweet...I would be up for us adding that one and the Stuka...

I gotta imagine that Mig would be pricy to fit up with twin 90's:Scared:
I'm with ya on the Stuka versus a Phoenix version though. You know BH makes a 1920 and a 2300 size ;)
As Alpha commented on post#13, what is shown initially is barely covering the extent of the BH line and if ya want something different to let MRC customer service know.
That's great because there is these WW2 warbirds made by BH also.:Cool:
FW-190 1780 and 2600
Hawker Hurricane 1520 and 2210
Hawker Typhoon 2000
Zero 1720
Spitfire 1730 and 2000
HE-112B 1550
DO 335 1724
Sea Fury 1460 and 1671 and 1950
BF-109E 1650
P-47 Thunderbolt 1620 and 2100
P-40C 1543 and 2280
Corsair 1740 and 2310

[tengarang]

Guess were going to need a gas engine forum thread now lol

nah electrics fine. The choice of motors available now are abundance.

[benjack71]

Guess were going to need a gas engine forum thread now lol

[benjack71]

It definitely is a game-changer as far as expanding the appeal to a wider customer family-base that's for sure. The Black Horse 50cc Corsair I have seen on their website has that sport scale look you see with a lot of the old Phoenix, Hangar 9 and Top Flite models. I've become far too spoiled now with such sweet scale foam offerings that if I am going to invest in a giant scale balsa, it has to have that same scale appeal to me. If they could take the FlightLine Corsair and blow it up to 90+" (with sliding canopy and scale gear) I would willingly go bankrupt, lol.

Yeah, someone needs to step up and fill the void left by ESM for the large scale models. Of course a lot of guys hated ESM because the flew to scale

[benjack71]

That Fairchild is really calling my name...I may put off the Phoenix Model Stuka Ju 87 61cc ARF 94.4" I have been seriously eyeballing for sometime now. She's a beauty. I also dig the Lysander and the Storch. Weird looking but in a cool way. The Wilga falls into that category as well. Unless Black Horse develops an Alpha-centric scale Corsair, the Fairchild will be my first Black Horse model for sure.

Black Horse at one time had some Corsairs. From going to some warbird RC events, it seems like CMP was always a favorite scale arf and blackhorse started making CMP style for awhile if I remember right. Seems like Black horse might have had a 20cc Corsair that was very similar to the Kyosho, that was very similar to the HH 20cc. Hmm..right now I am just in love with the fact Motion RC has jumped into the realm of gas and balsa

[Aros]

Man that Mig-29 looks sweet...I would be up for us adding that one and the Stuka...

[borntoolate]

I have ordered my (first) HE-111 today! I can't wait to get her on the table. More bombers please, Alpha and Stuart! (Betty, Betty, Betty!)



Bob

[Aros]

It definitely is a game-changer as far as expanding the appeal to a wider customer family-base that's for sure. The Black Horse 50cc Corsair I have seen on their website has that sport scale look you see with a lot of the old Phoenix, Hangar 9 and Top Flite models. I've become far too spoiled now with such sweet scale foam offerings that if I am going to invest in a giant scale balsa, it has to have that same scale appeal to me. If they could take the FlightLine Corsair and blow it up to 90+" (with sliding canopy and scale gear) I would willingly go bankrupt, lol.