What New FlightlineRC or FreeWing Model would you like to see come next!

[Woodcock]

People talk about VTOL edfs a good bit but I just don't think power systems are there yet. The one thing I always think about is trying to make a VTOL landing and hitting LVC... :Scared:

Just for the record JamesonC, I will not be participating in scratch building servos, LOL. Just in case you were wondering. I am getting set up for scratch building planes though, never figured I would go back to building. I have discovered it's actually the development and building I like the most in this hobby.

There was someone that posted a video of a pretty nice VTOL F-35. I watch the vid, and was impressed to say the least. This plane did better than any Harrier model I've seen. Maybe if someone remembers they could re-post the Vid.

Best Regards
Woodcock

[JamesonC]

People talk about VTOL edfs a good bit but I just don't think power systems are there yet. The one thing I always think about is trying to make a VTOL landing and hitting LVC... :Scared:

[DaleP]

[QUOTE=And for the record, I would also like a Jaguar (although considering its complex undercarriage we might as well do a Flogger or Aardvark)[/QUOTE]

Thank you for the reply Alpha and sharing your insights on the challenges of the market. While shipping costs may not come down, maybe the price of the manufacturing equipment will and that may help offset some costs and hurdles.

I don't believe anybody is doing any of those planes you listed properly! The Aardvark has a sweeping wing design, like the F-14, I'm sure that would be pretty awesome. I was thinking Jaguar as its design with the stout landing gear would make it very grass field capable. Plus I don't think anyone is making a model of that right now. Especially in 8s!

or..... you could do a F-35 with VTOL capability!... now that.... would be a bad mamma jamma!


Again, thanks for the insights!

[Petronio]

Its always a pleasure reading your posts Alpha :), well put, well explained, impossible not to follow even for us non naitives.

[Alpha]

Valkpilot, for all intents and purposes if all continues according to plan, you're quite right about that. ;)


To answer the question to me regarding size, bigger birds cost more to produce and more to ship, and "Free Shipping" for our customers obviously isn't free for us. Shipping cost is a sizable consideration, as is the production cost of molding an airplane that exceeds the maximum standard mold size that many industrial molding machines are designed to handle. One could chop up a larger airplane's design into more puzzle pieces, but the overall volume would still have to be distributed across more molds, which, again, raises costs considerably. And so I must often restate that there are, unfortunately, clear reasons beyond market demand why there do not exists many foam models beyond a certain overall displacement (not just length or wingspan but total volume). Mold frames are fixed, and maximal dimension limitations from shipping carriers are often brutal. Eflite's Carbon Z T-28 was one of my favorite Horizon planes in any material because it was such a wonderful flyer and I'm certain it was popular with most of its owners, yet it was cancelled after, what, just a couple of years? LX's beautiful 2200mm B-25 (retracts aside) cost $100+ to ship, and far more per unit to mold. Starmax's 1800mm girthy A-1 Skyraider, was about the same with ordnance. The cost/quantity just isn't there for foamies approaching true Giant Scale. For obvious reasons we can't get too deep into costs, but we've summarized in the past that it takes six figures to get a model off the ground. Imagine that. These are high hills to climb in a hobby this size, and making two or even one miscalculated big model can lead to... well... look at how many foam RC manufacturers are still growing.


Meanwhile, we've tried to push the boundaries of what we can fit in a box that still costs less than $60 to ship. That doesn't just mean making models bigger such as with our 90mm series of jets, but also in optimizing cheaper 80mm size jets to fly 90mm-sized airplanes, such that the user's overall value of size/cost increases. Getting creative with puzzle pieces has become our unintended specialty, also, with the boxes for the A-10 and F-22 being notable examples of big birds in small-but-safe boxes.

Bottom line is that there are multiple levers to balance before, during, and after an actual subject matter is selected. We do our best to balance them all for you.



And for the record, I would also like a Jaguar (although considering its complex undercarriage we might as well do a Flogger or Aardvark)

[Hoomi]

What I'd like to know, is why there was a radio-controlled Kaman helicopter way back in 1953, but there isn't a good model readily available today?

You gotta hand it to them "serious" modelers back then - 12"=1' scale is mighty ambitious, particularly with the radio technology in the early 50s!

[Aros]

I love the HSD F-16 105mm (had two of them) but sold both due to a lack of area to fly it properly without obstructions around. Not an issue for many but you get into the 105 size and it's quite a big difference.

[JamesonC]

If ya never ask, youll never get a YES!

You make a valid point for sure! Maybe Alpha will chime in on his thoughts on the 100+mm EDF market. I always love to hear his insight on stuff like that, even if it isn't just MRC business.

[DaleP]

I don't know if FW has any planes going bigger than the 90mm. Maybe I am wrong, but it kind of seems like the 64-90mm range is the area they want to stay in.

If ya never ask, youll never get a YES!

[Valkpilot]

At this point, the question isn't what, it's when?

[JamesonC]

How about a 90mm or 105mm edf SEPCAT Jaguar. 105mm please.. 8s or 10s. It would be an awesome grass runway jet.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Jt4YxFRAcIs/TwNQ9TVFpYI/AAAAAAAADzk/96M4oZfu76Q/s1600/sepecat_jaguar_gr1.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sepecat_Jaguar_A,_France_-_Air_Force_AN1163046.jpg

Or a 105mm BAE Hawk, as in my 1st post thread.

Would just like to see something in the 105mm to 120mm as not many people are doing them.

I don't know if FW has any planes going bigger than the 90mm. Maybe I am wrong, but it kind of seems like the 64-90mm range is the area they want to stay in.

[DaleP]

How about a 90mm or 105mm edf SEPCAT Jaguar. 105mm please.. 8s or 10s. It would be an awesome grass runway jet.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Jt4YxFRAcIs/TwNQ9TVFpYI/AAAAAAAADzk/96M4oZfu76Q/s1600/sepecat_jaguar_gr1.jpg

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sepecat_Jaguar_A,_France_-_Air_Force_AN1163046.jpg

Or a 105mm BAE Hawk, as in my 1st post thread.

Would just like to see something in the 105mm to 120mm as not many people are doing them.

[Aros]

Overall I agree Nick, however, I have been pleasantly surprised with the low wing load of the F-22 and F-4. For 90mm, they feel and fly awfully light to me with really good performance on 6S. With the AUW of the coming F/A-18C, it's going to keep on getting better and better. Definitely one of the benefits of our Next Gen stuff...

[Nickc2023]

Being a flier of all sizes of edf from 28mm all the way up to 105mm I have to say, 70mm jets are fast and nimble especially on 6s power but lack size,scale and overall presence in the air. 90mm jets definitely have that presence in the sky the 70's lack with their great scale details and impressive feature set but tend to fly much slower with a heft that can be felt in the sticks. I've found that the 80mm offerings really hit the sweet spot for me. I won't burden freewing with another specific model request (they came through for me on the f22 so I owe em one!) But rather suggest they further their 80mm line. Thanks and I can't wait to see what comes next!!

[JamesonC]

Preferably a TOTALLY NEW AIRCRAFT THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE, not one that's available from other companies, or a V 2, or new paint job.

UNLESS it is a V2 F35! :Cool:

[Valkpilot]

About a year and a half since the last 6s/70mm release. Surely there is another 70 coming soon!

Preferably a TOTALLY NEW AIRCRAFT THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE BEFORE, not one that's available from other companies, or a V 2, or new paint job.

[Jetman64]

I would love to see a A-7 or F105/106 in the 90mm. I’d also like to see an F-8 Crusader in the 90mm, with the leading edge mechanical.

[JamesonC]

About a year and a half since the last 6s/70mm release. Surely there is another 70 coming soon!

[Cws]

I still think a 1600 mm P-39 would sell. I know I would have to have one.
And while they're at it an A-26 invader, silver so we can do whatever we want to with the colors on it.
when we paint another color over silver the weathering is easy and a lot happens just with normal handling.

[Hoomi]

Another vintage Wish - Lockheed L10 Electra.

Go for the L12 version, and paint it in the Doc Savage scheme!