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Ya, but hover is easy. Forward flight is easy. It's the in between that has not been demonstrated at model scale with jet nozzles! The Harrier implementation with rotating nozzles will be tough at model scale. Same as the F-35 as it must vector the tail thrust down, blow air out side vents, and balance with a forward lift fan. The forward lift fan is easy with a prop, and vents that open and close, but the side nozzles must have constantly adjust thrust to balance in roll during hover!!
And look at all that gear to retract on the Harrier! Two pogos, nose gear, and a central main.
I am not saying it cant be done, but to get retracts and some scale detail, that is a lot of clap trap!
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Originally posted by tclaridge View PostYa, but hover is easy. Forward flight is easy. It's the in between that has not been demonstrated at model scale with jet nozzles! The Harrier implementation with rotating nozzles will be tough at model scale. Same as the F-35 as it must vector the tail thrust down, blow air out side vents, and balance with a forward lift fan. The forward lift fan is easy with a prop, and vents that open and close, but the side nozzles must have constantly adjust thrust to balance in roll during hover!!
And look at all that gear to retract on the Harrier! Two pogos, nose gear, and a central main.
I am not saying it cant be done, but to get retracts and some scale detail, that is a lot of clap trap!
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Maybe Alpha is doing the Rope a Dope thing with project foil....We get all punched out then WHAMMMMMM we are running for the pre order page screaming take my monies...... I would not put this past him as he is a sly one with a little devil side...:Devil:
You can picture him rubbing his hands together and talking in best mad scientist voice. " Yes, Yes, My plan is working.." ;)
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Originally posted by wolpertinger View PostMaybe Alpha is doing the Rope a Dope thing with project foil....We get all punched out then WHAMMMMMM we are running for the pre order page screaming take my monies...... I would not put this past him as he is a sly one with a little devil side...:Devil:
You can picture him rubbing his hands together and talking in best mad scientist voice. " Yes, Yes, My plan is working.." ;)
Bored and unhappy as the Lord of Hell, the original fallen angel, Lucifer Morningstar has abandoned his throne and retired to L.A., where he owns Lux, an ups...
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The thing about Project Foil was that I think it was supposed to be released prior to the F-4, but a manufacturing issue caused a stop in production so that a revision could be made. This is just a guess by me, but it is unusual these days for Alpha to drop a hint of a new plane and it not be officially announced shortly thereafter. This is my opinion only, so take it for what it's worth. And my other guess is that since it's taking some time to be released, it's going to be an 80 or 90mm bird. If it was a 64mm it would have been out long ago.Pat
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Originally posted by crxmanpat View PostThe thing about Project Foil was that I think it was supposed to be released prior to the F-4, but a manufacturing issue caused a stop in production so that a revision could be made. This is just a guess by me, but it is unusual these days for Alpha to drop a hint of a new plane and it not be officially announced shortly thereafter. This is my opinion only, so take it for what it's worth. And my other guess is that since it's taking some time to be released, it's going to be an 80 or 90mm bird. If it was a 64mm it would have been out long ago.
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I am guessing project Foil will likely be at a minimum a 80mm since we already got the 90mm F-4 unless they are doing something really special. Most announced projects have ended up being 80mm-90mm. But don't worry there might very well be some other 64mm and 70mm in the pipe line coming soon also. But I do feel like its around the corner. So have patience everyone!
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Originally posted by purduephigam View PostIf FOIL is released soon, will we ever get any closure/rationale on the clues Alpha gave? I want us all to have that "Aha" moment.
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Originally posted by T-CAT View PostI feel a L-39 or F-22 coming on. Bring itttttttttt :Drooling:- F-117 Nighthawk
- F-22 Raptor
- B-2 Spirt
- F-35 Lighting II
My bet is on the F-22 out of the four. I don't care much for the F-35A unless its the B variant with fully functioning VTOL capabilities.
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