Project Foil Guesses?

[AirHead]

I agree that Freewing should lose the whining 64mm "hair dryer" group. Focusing their coin on 70mm and 80mm platforms is the way to keep more folks at the trough. You can't please all the people all the time for sure, but most people are consistently happy with the 80mm group. Somewhere in the World's philosophy it's written..."The Middle Road Is Best"....

[davecee]

I agree that Freewing should lose the whining 64mm "hair dryer" group. Focusing their coin on 70mm and 80mm platforms is the way to keep more folks at the trough. You can't please all the people all the time for sure, but most people are consistently happy with the 80mm group. Somewhere in the World's philosophy it's written..."The Middle Road Is Best"....

Not everyone has access to a suitable runway for EDF use. The affordable hand launch 64 mm jets make EDFs viable for them. On a personal note, I've always liked small planes and an easily hand launchable plane is right up my alley. The sound of the 5 blade 64mm fans doesn't bother me, but I'll admit the 12 blade 64 mm fan sounds better.

[Valkpilot]

I agree that Freewing should lose the whining 64mm "hair dryer" group. Focusing their coin on 70mm and 80mm platforms is the way to keep more folks at the trough. You can't please all the people all the time for sure, but most people are consistently happy with the 80mm group. Somewhere in the World's philosophy it's written..."The Middle Road Is Best"....

The 64 mm have the niche of allowing people who are on the EDF fence try without sinking about $500 into the project, or people that don't have the flying space for the bigger planes.

[mr.frankenjet]

I have the panther 64mm, flew ok with the stock setup BUT the 12 blade 4 cell performs fantastic. Great sound and thrust. I have mostly 70mm and up including the Avanti (love it) so I'm familiar with larger stuff. The 4 cell setup on these smaller planes does not disappoint.

[purduephigam]

OK so let the guessing game begin again. What clues do we have so far for project Foil.

1. Alphas History:
   • Military Campaigns and Pilots
   • Alphas prior hints / clues, pattern
   • Likes Military, History and Literature?
2. Foil to be in 2018
3. Foil is an EDF
4. Hoot was Fast but Foil is Faster
5. Cloud Atlas:
   • Book Reference
   • Movie Reference
   • Breaking Bad Episode
6. Ozymandias:
   • Poem Meaning and references
   • King of Kings
   • Egypt
7. Foil Definitions:
   • To prevent (something considered wrong or undesirable) from succeeding.
   • The track or scent of a hunted animal. (Maybe - Radar tracking?)
   • A light fencing sword without cutting edges but with a button on its point. (Na to obvious.)
8. Ruled out:
   • Alpha Post #552 - Not an SR-71 Black bird and not a Foxbat.

So, what other clues are out there to tease?

Somewhere along the lines there was a reference to "dying in the desert." Not by Alpha, but a continuation from a previous clue (likely the King of kings and Egypt references listed above).

I'm not a huge jet/history buff so naturally I'd inquire about any wars in the desert. However, does it necessarily mean the middle east? Could it be something that was flown experimentally in our own desert? Surely this is a fast plane, and from clues, seemed to really raise the bar for the future of our aircraft. Certainly I badly want this to be some sort of stealth aircraft, but I don't have enough information or credibility to form any sort of hypothesis.

[Woodcock]

I agree that Freewing should lose the whining 64mm "hair dryer" group. Focusing their coin on 70mm and 80mm platforms is the way to keep more folks at the trough. You can't please all the people all the time for sure, but most people are consistently happy with the 80mm group. Somewhere in the World's philosophy it's written..."The Middle Road Is Best"....

Be careful Airhead, stay on topic, lol. IS FOIL A BEAR BOMBER??

Yea, I was pretty disappointed when my Freewing 64mm F-8, F9F, and Thunderchief showed up with a 5 bladed fan. I just got a 64mm Stinger Jet, I haven't seen that fan yet. Probably check it out this weekend. I honestly thought I would get more blades, but I may have not been paying attention. If I take a liking to one of these I'll probably fit it with the upgraded fan. I understand Motion is trying to keep the price point below 100 bucks, I can respect that.

Power Trippin, sheesh.

Best Regards
Woody

[Woodcock]

I have the panther 64mm, flew ok with the stock setup BUT the 12 blade 4 cell performs fantastic. Great sound and thrust. I have mostly 70mm and up including the Avanti (love it) so I'm familiar with larger stuff. The 4 cell setup on these smaller planes does not disappoint.

Is foil a Beach 18?

Hey Frank,

I actually have developed a special fondness to my Freewing F9F. How did you manage to fit a 4S battery in that plane?

Woody

[mr.frankenjet]

Hey Woodie,

Cut the front 2 tabs that connect the wood tray to the fuse and the tray will be "spring hinged " Makes it ez to push down a bit and slide the 1800 4 cell pack forward to make cg ( I have it close to the servo wire track ). This plane is the most fun you can have for under 100 (OK a bit more with the upgrade, SO worth it) Sorry for the off topic, gives us something to do while waiting for foil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAndp2XwDnc

[AirHead]

I hear and understand the words of financial practicality and size necessity regarding the 64mm jets and yes, I guess I'm drifting from the "Foil Guesses" (my guess is the F-100). The true sound of EDF jets comes from more blades. It's just too bad that Freewing doesn't simply use 9 or 12 blades as stock in all of the 64mm jets. Isn't that what we want to hear? a turbine sound instead of hair drying? EDFs have come a long way baby!....I guess there really are no "bad jets".....

[Valkpilot]

Somewhere along the lines there was a reference to "dying in the desert." Not by Alpha, but a continuation from a previous clue (likely the King of kings and Egypt references listed above).

I'm not a huge jet/history buff so naturally I'd inquire about any wars in the desert. However, does it necessarily mean the middle east? Could it be something that was flown experimentally in our own desert? Surely this is a fast plane, and from clues, seemed to really raise the bar for the future of our aircraft. Certainly I badly want this to be some sort of stealth aircraft, but I don't have enough information or credibility to form any sort of hypothesis.

Well it could do with the Arab/Israeli 6 Day War, and that would be a Dassault Ouragan, Which would be the French equivalent of the F-86 and MiG-15. OR it could be any one of the planes at "The Boneyard", Davis-Monthan Air Force Base.

[Valkpilot]

Be careful Airhead, stay on topic, lol. IS FOIL A BEAR BOMBER??

Yea, I was pretty disappointed when my Freewing 64mm F-8, F9F, and Thunderchief showed up with a 5 bladed fan. I just got a 64mm Stinger Jet, I haven't seen that fan yet. Probably check it out this weekend. I honestly thought I would get more blades, but I may have not been paying attention. If I take a liking to one of these I'll probably fit it with the upgraded fan. I understand Motion is trying to keep the price point below 100 bucks, I can respect that.

Power Trippin, sheesh.

Best Regards
Woody

There ARE other vendors who sell these at ARF and ARF+, and considering how many "modders" there seem to be, perhaps MRC should carry them as well for the more popular models. PS: it has to be a jet, so it wouldn't be a Bear, it'd be a Beagle or Badger, or Blackjack.

[Woodcock]

There ARE other vendors who sell these at ARF and ARF+, and considering how many "modders" there seem to be, perhaps MRC should carry them as well for the more popular models. PS: it has to be a jet, so it wouldn't be a Bear, it'd be a Beagle or Badger, or Blackjack.

Is Foil a "Fairchild C-123??" It has jet engines. Probably not but it's a guess. Going to try to fly my F9F soon. Yea, I pretty much always go for the PNP's mostly for the value. I bought one kit, and I already have almost 200 in individual parts to finish it.

Woody

[Grady.c]

Be careful Airhead, stay on topic, lol. IS FOIL A BEAR BOMBER??

Yea, I was pretty disappointed when my Freewing 64mm F-8, F9F, and Thunderchief showed up with a 5 bladed fan. I just got a 64mm Stinger Jet, I haven't seen that fan yet. Probably check it out this weekend. I honestly thought I would get more blades, but I may have not been paying attention. If I take a liking to one of these I'll probably fit it with the upgraded fan. I understand Motion is trying to keep the price point below 100 bucks, I can respect that.

Power Trippin, sheesh.

Best Regards
Woody

I would be very happy for a TU-95

[Grady.c]

There ARE other vendors who sell these at ARF and ARF+, and considering how many "modders" there seem to be, perhaps MRC should carry them as well for the more popular models. PS: it has to be a jet, so it wouldn't be a Bear, it'd be a Beagle or Badger, or Blackjack.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH I WOULD LIKE A IL-28

[Grady.c]

There ARE other vendors who sell these at ARF and ARF+, and considering how many "modders" there seem to be, perhaps MRC should carry them as well for the more popular models. PS: it has to be a jet, so it wouldn't be a Bear, it'd be a Beagle or Badger, or Blackjack.

I would be happy for all of those

[Valkpilot]

I would be happy for all of those

I'd rather have the T-4 or Bison.

[lmramos44]

Once more, please be a F-100 90mm.....I would pay 600 bucks for that.

[rifleman_btx]

I wouldn't.

[Grady.c]

I just want any Russian jet, my preference would be an IL-28 or a TU-4

[Valkpilot]

Well it could do with the Arab/Israeli 6 Day War, and that would be a Dassault Ouragan, Which would be the French equivalent of the F-86 and MiG-15. OR it could be any one of the planes at "The Boneyard", Davis-Monthan Air Force Base.

More on the Six Day War. Egyptian aircraft losses(died in the desert) was this:l 30 Tu-16 bombers, 27 out of 40 Il-28 bombers, 12 Su-7 fighter-bombers, over 90 MiG-21s, 20 MiG-19s, 25 MiG-17 fighters,