New FMS/Eflite Su-30 coming soon

[fredmdbud]

I have several planes where the white portions are bare foam (e.g. Eflite Viper) - still doesn't bother me. Regarding dirt, if I have concerns about it getting into the foam cells, I'll just apply a coat or two of polyacrylic.

[MANFRED]

Fred, have you actually seen the plane yet? Perhaps when you see it the $549 price tag might do it

[Veltro]

For me, the thing with raw foam is that it easily picks up dirt and grime in the cells. The foam that is primed and painted doesn't do that. Plus, the painted surfaces have a different sheen than the raw foam.

[fredmdbud]

Still doesn’t bother me - that’s my opinion, just like yours.

[MANFRED]

This is something that burns me up about E-flight, I need to have it real bad, and would paint the foam, but I would probably just not get it. Sport models, bare foam is OK in my books. But something like this with a near $600 price tag. No freaking way. I pretty much salute Flightline, and Freewing. I don't think they would ever do that, they have done it in the past, but have seen the light and the errors of their ways, and have ceased.

Best Regards
Woody

Amen! And Fred, yes you can't see the raw foam in the air... which is .00009th of the time you spend with this ship!

[Woodcock]

This is something that burns me up about E-flight, I need to have it real bad, and would paint the foam, but I would probably just not get it. Sport models, bare foam is OK in my books. But something like this with a near $600 price tag. No freaking way. I pretty much salute Flightline, and Freewing. I don't think they would ever do that, they have done it in the past, but have seen the light and the errors of their ways, and have ceased.

Best Regards
Woody

[e4dragongunner]

I agree!!! Hey E-flite and Horizon.... please please paint the white foam! :-) White!

[fredmdbud]

You can’t see the foam cells when it’s flying.

[MANFRED]

I got a good look at this ship at the AMA convention this weekend. It is a good size and very nicely detailed. Great visible paint theme with one exception, they did not paint the foam white on the white areas and the raw foam looks really cheap compared to the smooth quality of the painted surfaces. Why would they cheap out like this for a close to $600 ship?

[Valkpilot]

Personally, I've been hoping for a UMX F-100 or BAE Hawk in Red Arrows livery.

[wolpertinger]

Ordered the SU-30 and cannot wait for it to get here via Santa Express. It is great to have HH and MRC bringing out such wonderful planes for the hobby, although it is painful to the RC budget. Already moved the car out of the garage (Hangar) to make room for more so bring it on.....

[Mikkelb]

This is fantastic! I'm digging the Flanker! I agree that it is quite pricey being around the $1,200AUD mark, but it's a lot of jet in my mind personally. I'm excited about this one. Awesome scheme they choose as well. The gear looks great especially with the landing lights, they did well to represent closely what is on the full size and not just use their generic lights that they have on pretty much all of their other models in the size. I think EFlite did a great job on this one and I can't wait for these to start landing in Aus.

[xviper]

I've been waffling over getting the su-35 for a while, knowing that the moment I buy it another flanker would be released.

I have a soft spot specifically with the 2-seater variants like the eflite, so like you I will be waiting it out a few months to see how people are liking it. Flying season is basically over for me so no rush with any new purchases for the next 4 months. likely would get one of the flankers next year.

As for the flying season for this type of plane (requiring a clear runway), same here.
Another comparison ............................ FW currently going out the door for $395.00US vs EF for $520.00US, both PNP.

[Dirty Dee]

I've been waffling over getting the su-35 for a while, knowing that the moment I buy it another flanker would be released.

I have a soft spot specifically with the 2-seater variants like the eflite, so like you I will be waiting it out a few months to see how people are liking it. Flying season is basically over for me so no rush with any new purchases for the next 4 months. likely would get one of the flankers next year.

[xviper]

I was initially very interested in this plane but now that the price has been announced, I'm a bit restrained. It's priced just under the AL37 and for me, the 737 is more desirable as I've already got the Freewing SU-35. As such, the comparison of the FW 35 and the Eflite 30 compelled a more careful look. Both are within 20mm wingspan of each other. Both have a 12-bl fan, but the FW is 3048-2150kv motor (60A ESCs) and the EF is 2860-1850kv motor (80A ESCs). The FW is 2600g (flying weight) while the EF is 4380g. That might suggest the FW would have more grunt and perhaps a bit faster. The EF has newer and some would say "niftier" features (hidden elevator servo/rods) and rotating retracts with doors and airbrake. The FW has thrust vectoring. Being a newer model, the EF looks to be better build quality but that has the penalty of much higher price. For now, my SU-35 is dialed in and flies very well and still looks amazing zipping through the air.
I think I'll wait till spring to see the private reviews and decide then.

[BRGT350]

It is on the E-Flite website today https://www.horizonhobby.com/airplan...ect-p-efl01050

Looks like there is a PNP model as well.

While not a Su-30 fan, I have to say the model looks very well detailed. I am still hoping for a twin EDF parkflyer or UMX F-14. The Freewing F-14 is just too much plane for me and I would be gutted stuffing into the ground. Besides my UMX A-10, the only EDF that I want is the F-14. Even if the wings don't move.

[fredmdbud]

This plane should have flaps. Impossible, because of the arbitrary 6 channel limit. limit

If the directions are compatible, the gear and the flaps can share a channel with Y connectors. If the retracts can operate with a slew rate, slowed-down flaps are also possible.

[fredmdbud]

Did the SU have flaps? I agree with more channel receivers as I always separate steering. On this I would do the same as my F-18 or F-22 and put each surface on a separate channel with a 12ch receiver.

Depending on variant, flaperons, or combination flaps & flaperons.

[BRGT350]

I would assume the announcement will come out on Thursday, since that is when most of the Horizon announcements are made.

As for the 6-channel transmitters, that is what I purchased years ago when I only had fixed gear and planes without flaps. It wasn't until this year I realized that I should have gone with a DX8 or 9. I didn't expect ever needing more than 6 channels when I bought my DX6. Flaps, gear, and SAFE or gyro (Lemon style stabilized receivers) need extra channels that I could have never guessed I would need years ago. I would agree that most people who have the experience needed to fly something like a large EDF have more than a 6-channel radio. They are way past my flying ability, price range, and what my flying field can handle, so the channel count won't matter much to me. I am sticking with smaller prop planes, which is more of a limitation on budget, experience, transportation, batteries, and what I can use at my club more than purely an issue with not buying enough channels. I do see where I went wrong with a DX6, but it hasn't been the main reason I am holding back on a number of new planes. There are a few planes I have today where extra channels would be nice and a few planes I would like to own that would be best suited for a DX8/9.

[Evan D]

Did the SU have flaps? I agree with more channel receivers as I always separate steering. On this I would do the same as my F-18 or F-22 and put each surface on a separate channel with a 12ch receiver.

This is just one example of how 6 channels is a problem, and is not intended to change the discussion to the merits or faults of safe.

Need a different example? This plane should have flaps. Impossible, because of the arbitrary 6 channel limit. limit