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  • Evan D
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    Probably not a very good estimate....

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  • kallend
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    Just ordered, and it says:

    Shipping method

    Basic Economy (Estimated Delivery: Fri, Dec 23)

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  • kallend
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    Originally posted by Tom View Post

    There are not any plans for a German version right now but it is something I can suggest to Freewing for the future.
    How about an RAF version - like GINA?

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  • MeyerVW
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    Hope to see more news and videos soon on the aircraft.

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  • Evan D
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    It's amazing some numbers that get thrown around. Not only uninstalled numbers but some use power supplies set at voltages you just will never have when flying. Then people get their new fan and they think they'll have way over 1:1 thrust to weight but in reality are nowhere near it and freak out. Also bifurcated exhausts rob a bit of power and if you have TVs a bit more.

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  • xviper
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    Gotha!

    Any thrust numbers you may have seen are likely "static thrust". In a plane, especially one with twin outlets, actual thrust will be less.

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  • Tomling31
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    Originally posted by xviper View Post
    I'm not understanding why the brand of battery you use would dictate the desire for the ARF+ vs the 8s PNP. For what it would cost you to buy the EDF and ESC to put into an ARF, you would save so much money just getting the 8s PNP. Or am I missing something? The "extra weight" will only be from the battery weight of 8s, which may only be 300g to 400g. And since HRBs (which I plan to use) are lighter batteries to begin with, the added weight may be even less. Also note that the retracts/struts on this plane is more beefy than those that came on the original versions of the Eurofighter. Nevertheless, trailing link mains might be a better option for some pilots and I'm sure they can be adapted to this plane without too much work.

    You’ve misunderstood, The brand of battery doesn’t matter, I only mentioned it in passing comment, I’m actually really happy with my HRB packs I have 3,4,6s 6000 packs 👍. Iv just seen some nice flying models that the retracts can’t really handle the extra weight of 8s on grass tho happy in the air, There are a lot of nice scale details that would be ripped off if a main gear came out.

    But mainly the thrust specs are clearly exaggerated, it will never make the thrust claimed, or Jetfan/Schübeler will be out of business soon. Secondly I have spare proven 90mm edf units and ESC’s ready to go in hence my asking. 👍 good to know the struts look stronger than the V1/V2 version. I’m more than happy to pre order the 8s version and give it a go, it would be Interesting to test the thrust vs the claim.

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  • xviper
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    Originally posted by Tomling31 View Post
    Really pleased to see the Typhoon is coming back, Does anyone know if this will be produced in ARTF- Plus? I'd rather go 8s in this like other models but I use HRB 6000 packs. Flying off grass without trailing link suspension may not be a good plan with the extra weight. A nice Schubeler 6s motor set up could be the best option, lighter but with decent thrust and efficiency. Can't wait to get one of these in the air.
    I'm not understanding why the brand of battery you use would dictate the desire for the ARF+ vs the 8s PNP. For what it would cost you to buy the EDF and ESC to put into an ARF, you would save so much money just getting the 8s PNP. Or am I missing something? The "extra weight" will only be from the battery weight of 8s, which may only be 300g to 400g. And since HRBs (which I plan to use) are lighter batteries to begin with, the added weight may be even less. Also note that the retracts/struts on this plane is more beefy than those that came on the original versions of the Eurofighter. Nevertheless, trailing link mains might be a better option for some pilots and I'm sure they can be adapted to this plane without too much work.

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  • Evan D
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    Kit +, 6S and 8S…

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  • Tomling31
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    Really pleased to see the Typhoon is coming back, Does anyone know if this will be produced in ARTF- Plus? I'd rather go 8s in this like other models but I use HRB 6000 packs. Flying off grass without trailing link suspension may not be a good plan with the extra weight. A nice Schubeler 6s motor set up could be the best option, lighter but with decent thrust and efficiency. Can't wait to get one of these in the air.

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  • DCORSAIR
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    Originally posted by Pete914 View Post
    I probably should have gone 8s. I wonder if I can change the pre-order.
    I hear you a lot of these things have already been done but then you stated the point I was making: this incorporates all of them into one Jet. Also, any of the stuff from 2010 era was just so much less reliable IMO. Cheaper foam, cheaper electronics, etc.
    The quality has really come a long way.
    It wasn't uncommon to have to immediately replace stuff just to get the jet in the air.
    Now, we have awesome customer support and planes that legit feel like they are developed by people that fly them and want to fly the snot out of them.
    B-2 is a good example of this "level up" mentality on design and delivery

    I'm not saying anything is perfect, but we are in a much better place now than in 2012
    I could be wrong but I've always had to cancel an order and then reorder what I wanted, you must have done what I have done in the past and get so excited and push that magic buy button and then start thinking about it afterwards, I don't preorder anymore, I just can't take it knowing I paid for something and have to wait a couple of months to get it..........

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  • Evan D
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    Pretty sure they will ask you to cancel and reorder. Ask Tom, on here, he's one of the owners of Motion. Caution too as between us and Motion EU there are some versions sold out already.

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  • Pete914
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    I probably should have gone 8s. I wonder if I can change the pre-order.
    I hear you a lot of these things have already been done but then you stated the point I was making: this incorporates all of them into one Jet. Also, any of the stuff from 2010 era was just so much less reliable IMO. Cheaper foam, cheaper electronics, etc.
    The quality has really come a long way.
    It wasn't uncommon to have to immediately replace stuff just to get the jet in the air.
    Now, we have awesome customer support and planes that legit feel like they are developed by people that fly them and want to fly the snot out of them.
    B-2 is a good example of this "level up" mentality on design and delivery

    I'm not saying anything is perfect, but we are in a much better place now than in 2012

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  • Evan D
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    A lot of that innovation has been around quite a long time. Just on other FW planes spring loaded cheaters came out on their F-104 (bought my first one 8/16), Armament full set with the F-16 (bought mine 2/15), gear door retraction the way it is here has been on all planes with the MCBe controller, came out in about 2018, but others had it earlier like on the FMS P-51, Airbrake(s) well the F-104 has them but so do others. Reverse is now becoming common and a lot of us have been saying it's about time FW gets ESCs to do it, especially since they use HW ESCs.

    But it's the package and this plane has the package. B-2, that is innovation, as you say a game changer. But then so are the Gripen and MiG-29 with not only TV but optional as an add on TV! So were the 90mm TV'ed Eurofighter and F/A-18E way way back then (As eRC in very early 2010) and the 80mm planes when they came out, the 8S ones when they came out, The F-104 was crazy innovative. Yeah, Free Wing is the leader.

    This is why FW and Motion keep me as a customer. Awesome planes, awesome support, awesome service.

    About 6, 7 or 8S. The 6S fan is new and not a known item. It's a smaller diameter, higher kV than other motors used in 12b 90mm fans. A motor with more mass and or lower kV may tolerate an additional cell or even two. Have to wait and see on this one. Of course, you need to be cautious of ESC and/ or BEC max voltages but if Tom is right and this has the 120HV that's not an issue. Really if you do want more power a more efficient fan or a matched system for higher voltage is the better way to go. I also got the 6S as it's specs say it should be a good match. If not, I have a couple JF/HET set ups I could choose from, a 1500 and a 1680, and since it appears to already have an 8S ESC it would be an easy swap.

    Run a 6S motor on 7S at max 80% throttle is asking for trouble. First I bet it would be hard to not give it 100 unless you did a mix or limited it in your transmitter and then "what if" Also an ESC works easiest at zero and full throttle. The FETs work much harder at high partial throttle. Not to say the HW can't handle that but use caution with this thinking.

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  • Pete914
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    So stoked on this plane! So much innovation: reverse thrust! Spring loaded cheaters! Full armament!! Gear door retraction option for grass ops! Airbrake??!!!! DUDE!

    I pulled the trigger on the 6s b/c I have a lot of 6s packs. I like long flight times though...should I have gone 8s? I have a few 7s 5000 packs that I thought might get me better flight times but lightweight goes a long way with these foam planes. I wonder if the 6s motor could handle 7s maxxed out at 80% throttle?

    I love that the B-2 is so efficient. That jet is a game changer....

    GOOD WORK MOTIONRC AND FREEWING! KEEP THEM COMING!!!!!

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  • xviper
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    Originally posted by Nyuhasz View Post
    Any idea how the 2x 4S 6000mAh Admiral batteries are to fit in the battery compartment for the 8S High Performance setup? Battery Compartment => L=180 W=70 H=55 ----- 4S batt => L=160 W=46 H=40. The 6S +2S setup looks doable, but only with 5000mAh batteries aka limited flight time.

    Thanks

    Nick


    You have the measurements right there, so the "idea" is in print. Looks like some foam carving will be needed for those batteries. I'll go with the 6000mah, 6s and 6000mah, 2s HRBs like I do in my other 8s jets. I'll also use twin 6000mah, 4s HV Coddars, which are very small and compact.

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  • Nyuhasz
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    Any idea how the 2x 4S 6000mAh Admiral batteries are to fit in the battery compartment for the 8S High Performance setup? Battery Compartment => L=180 W=70 H=55 ----- 4S batt => L=160 W=46 H=40. The 6S +2S setup looks doable, but only with 5000mAh batteries aka limited flight time.

    Thanks

    Nick


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  • Evan D
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    No. Totally new aircraft and no TV.

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  • DODGEBOY71
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    I guess this one is not thrust vectoring like the last two?

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  • MeyerVW
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    Sweet. I have been after one of these Eurofighters for a long time. Bad timing as I am moving but I will preorder one. I then have all the rc aircraft I need and time to start saving for a real ultralight. Thanks for the new release.

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