Official Freewing 90mm Ares 3D EDF Jet Thread

[Airguardian]

No one posts here anymore?

3 vids of mine in a row... damn!
What are you guys doing with your ARESes?

[Airguardian]

There go some of my most intense flights to date on the AreS... it's a tricky bird to Master but hell it's fun and challenging to throw around! :D

[Airguardian]

[Evan D]

FW said that sbus would be an option in a future update. I don’t know if they ever did it.

[xviper]

Thank you, that was helpful. Any idea about SBUS from receiver to gyro?

I don't think it mentions anything about SBUS in the manual, so I doubt it's an option. SBUS is generally used when dealing with a flight controller. This plane doesn't have a flight controller. It has a "control box", which is basically a collection point for servos throughout the plane, sort of like a bunch of Y's.

[Mr.Ombre]

"Auto-level" can be set on either gyro, but I don't see any advantage to it since it's only for leveling the plane when in forward flight. The auto level feature is only really needed for the gyro affecting the control surfaces. If you are thinking maybe auto level would help in keeping the plane in a vertical hover, I don't think you can make that gyro think vertical is horizontal. You're better off using high gain on the VT nozzles for hovering and slow, high alpha. Also, I'm not sure you can have 3 flight modes (one of which is auto level) and master gain on the same gyro. It's one or the other. However, you could elect to have auto level for one gyro (control surfaces) and master gain for the other (VT). I suggest you download the gyro manual and have a read to see what you can and can't do.
Yes, each gyro can be "adjusted" separately via the Blue Bridge programming device. If you are talking about "master gain", this can also be done if you have enough channels to assign a master gain to rotary or slider for each gyro. In the manual, both master gains are Y'd together so changing gain on the fly is done to both via one rotary/slider. It seems counter productive to have separate master gains, since when you are going slow as in high alpha or hovering, you want high gain, where the control surfaces won't mind. When flying at speed, you want lower gain, where the nozzles don't really need any gain at all.

Thank you, that was helpful. Any idea about SBUS from receiver to gyro?

[xviper]

"Auto-level" can be set on either gyro, but I don't see any advantage to it since it's only for leveling the plane when in forward flight. The auto level feature is only really needed for the gyro affecting the control surfaces. If you are thinking maybe auto level would help in keeping the plane in a vertical hover, I don't think you can make that gyro think vertical is horizontal. You're better off using high gain on the VT nozzles for hovering and slow, high alpha. Also, I'm not sure you can have 3 flight modes (one of which is auto level) and master gain on the same gyro. It's one or the other. However, you could elect to have auto level for one gyro (control surfaces) and master gain for the other (VT). I suggest you download the gyro manual and have a read to see what you can and can't do.
Yes, each gyro can be "adjusted" separately via the Blue Bridge programming device. If you are talking about "master gain", this can also be done if you have enough channels to assign a master gain to rotary or slider for each gyro. In the manual, both master gains are Y'd together so changing gain on the fly is done to both via one rotary/slider. It seems counter productive to have separate master gains, since when you are going slow as in high alpha or hovering, you want high gain, where the control surfaces won't mind. When flying at speed, you want lower gain, where the nozzles don't really need any gain at all.

[Mr.Ombre]

Hi, I'm planning to order the 8s Ares PNP as well.

I have a few questions and hope you can answer them.

Does the TV gyro now have auto-leveling?

Can the gains of the two gyros be adjusted separately?

I'll be using a 12-channel FrSky receiver without stabilization, or can the gyros already be controlled via SBUS?

[Airguardian]

What gyro is everyone using?
Any luck getting rid of that annoying wing rock?

[Airguardian]

5th gen stealth trees aren't real, they cannot hurt y-

[Airguardian]

Yep, and the one on this video, even closer! (minute 8)

Damn planet earth, suddenly falling towards my airplane! How shameless!

[Evan D]

That last pull was close.

[Airguardian]

Another one joins the cult!

[xviper]

Maidened today. First was a trimming flight. Found I needed to reduce rates dramatically on AIL and ELE and increased expo on both. Flew well as a "normal" jet (on low gains). Hovered up high (too chicken to do it low). Everyone was amazed at how rock steady it was as it just hung there in one spot (gains maxed as per Freewing set up video). Lands fast without flaps. Slows down nicely when landing high alpha but was a bit bouncy for me. Need practice. Will try hovering lower and lower as I get more confident. Didn't do any flips and spins yet. Snow coming soon.

[xviper]

I recently reduced travel in my TV and am much happier with spins and flips, more controllable and less snappy.

Interesting! I'll keep that in mind.

[Evan D]

I recently reduced travel in my TV and am much happier with spins and flips, more controllable and less snappy.

[xviper]

Got it all put together and programmed. Just waiting for a "warmish" day before the snow comes (frozen fingers syndrome) to maiden it. I'm trying something a little different. I've "Y'd" AIL to FLAP on each side, reversed one flap so it moves the same way as the mated AIL. I have full span ailerons and flaperons (low flap deflection). ELE nozzle Y'd to ELE, RUD nozzle Y'd to RUD. Have enough left over for reverse with one to spare (10-ch Lemon). Did the Bluebridge programming as per the Freewing YouTube set up video. Maxed out the nozzle as per Jon (2 Bros), dialed in lower rates for normal flying and put the gain on a slider. "Seems" to all work but proof will be in the air. Like the steering gyro but it would be nice if it didn't work the steering when retracted (like the ASSAN).

[xviper]

I think I'll like it too. Taking it out of the box, I'm really surprised (pleasantly so) at just how big this plane is (comparing it to my old 80mm Avanti S). The wife even exclaimed, "Holy crap, that's a big box"!
I've been watching all the YouTube vids on the set up and the one I saw from Freewing Model is of particular interest and relevance to me. I'll also give due consideration to some elements of 2 Bros and M&M Dynamics plus things I've seen on both forums threads. It's starting to make sense to me now. I've got my old SebArt MiG29 to practice and limber up on.

[Evan D]

I like mine, hope you do too.

[xviper]

I caved. Should be showing up at my front door in the next couple of hrs. Decided to get one of the remaining units from MotionRC even though it cost about 150 bucks more, but what the heck, I do like to support a good company. Maybe it'll bring some of that Florida sunshine to our rapidly diminishing fall. The MiG29 will be a Xmas gift to myself.