FMS 1400mm T-28 V4 has arrived at Motion RC

[wrongroad]

G'day Ron,
Just for the record, you will find very little 'glue' is holding in any of the wheel well tubs in any of the FMS models.
This is to prevent you ripping the whole wing apart in a less than stellar landing...and we all have those from time to time:rolleyes::D.
Imagine my total surprise one day when I arrived at the field to find that the whole tub had fallen out of the Corsair and, of course, it was the only model I had packed in that morning and, further, I had no glue and, wait for it, neither did anyone else at the field. Even the local guru of flight [gof] did not have his twelve volt hot glue gun with him. [he ALWAYS has the glue gun for in field repairs as most of his models are now more glue than original airframe:p]
I am confident enough with my landings to epoxy the tubs in place but I would recommend anyone doing so to go light on the epoxy in case of the less than perfect touch down.
It is much better to pull out a little bit of foam, that will act as a good location key as it stands, then to have the whole wing torn in two.
I want to get back and fly my Trojans soon and there is an electric fly day coming up the first weekend in June and I want to take a Mustang, Trojan and I think, my F4U to the meeting so I better get in some serious practice;)
I hope you are away from the nasty weather we are seeing on the news broadcasts here. It does look really bad.
Stay safe.
Regards and respect
Daryl

OK>>>> just had a massive clap of thunder here and I think I need to do some laundry...God I hate thunder when it is that close!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ron1950]

Butternuts sorry for not getting the pic of the nose gear but did call motion and found out that the nose gear tub they were sending out does not work with the v3/v4 they had me send mine back to them for refund and said they do not have the correct part yet for v4...

[Ron1950]

anyone know if the steering servo is a reverse servo? no one at motion can figure it out and its not listed in any fms servos in spare parts or under servos inother parts

[OV10]

Hello Ron1950,
When FMS released the v4 they incorporated metal gears for all the servos, using (2)9gram and (5)17gram.
The nose steering uses a 9 gram positive servo part number SKU: FMSSER9MGDP (also identified as FMS-092)
The v3 used a 9 gram nylon gear 54 degree positive servo in the nose steering, part number SKU: FMSSER9G-54DEG (also identified as FMS-091)
I suspect the reason no one at Motion can figure it out is because the spare parts they list is different from what FMS lists.
As a reference point for all FMS servos and especially the motor specs that Motion doesn't list I just go right to the OEM source, have been using it for years.
See the T-28 v4 FMS(OEM)direct link below

http://www.fmsmodel.com/airplanedetails.php?type=airplane&ID=411

NOTE: The new 4258-650kV motor that is in the 1400mm T-28 v4 and the P-40B does not have the specs posted as yet. Also the pricing you see on the FMS site is what Motion would/used to charge but not anymore since Horizon got the exclusive US distribution and dictates what the good folks at Motion will now charge. How do we like that $40 no value add upcharge on this v4 ??
Best regards,

[Ron1950]

thanks 10 I got the fms plastic gear servo and put it in the nose gear and it runs backwards to the rudder,,, it has the brown and yellow etc wires so figured it was positive servo...thought the reverse servo had red black and white wires?????

[Ron1950]

update: Jim at force looked it up and it is a reverse metal gear servo....for the v4 nose gear servo.....thanks

[wrongroad]

G'day gang,
Just thought that I would share some rare footage of me flying a model and it is the re painted Navy Drone Control unit.
This is a V3 model and started life as a Red and White Navy aircraft.
The paint job started on December 24 2013 and the model had its maiden flight on the 8th of January 2014.
The fuselage is Tamiya field blue [XF50] that closely matched the official description of engine grey.
The wings are yellow orange and the tail assembly is orange yellow otherwise known as international orange.
The paint is water based acrylic and with thinned with alcohol to about 50 / 50 and sprayed on with an airbrush at 30 psi with the air coming through a water trap.
The pilots are no longer twins with one sporting a better sun tan and a 1980's style mo'.
Even though you can not see them in the video, the pilots have eight different colours making up their new uniforms, helmets and harness.
The video captures the last few seconds of the maiden fright [I spelled it correctly] and, even though I let the model flop on the deck from the last foot or so, I was happy with the landing at the time. Today I would call it a four out of ten.
It was a wild ride at first as the Trojan wanted to go right on the take off run and then promptly rolled left as soon as her wheels left the ground. That caught me a bit off guard but was not too bad. Plus, she then showed that she wanted to dive like a U boat but a few clicks of the appropriate trims switches and all was good. Well, sort of. Read on!
The weather was not the best and it rained heavily just after I landed and kept on raining for two weeks.
I also had the local commuter airline pick this moment to do a right hand landing circuit into the local airport and flew directly over the top of our field. He came out of the gloom with his landing lights blazing right into my eyes.
I remember my fellow club mate calling out a warning and I replied, 'well, what am I supposed to %^$&ing do about that?' Yes I had my hands full and the airliner did not help at all. Funny now but not at the time.
Our field is inside the 3nM limit and we have permission from the Australian Aviation Authority [CASA] to fly. The airline was supposed to call us and inform us [we have to have a scanner for such events] but no one at the field remembered hearing a right hand circuit being called.
As you will see from the footage, our runway was still very rough at the time and is much more like a bowling green now. We had only been at the field for six months and it was and still is a cow pasture, just with a nice runway in the middle.
I recall getting a round of applause from the other pilots but I was under a lot of stress. I did not want to prang my nice new model.
Callie supplied the decals and they are fantastic. Callie is number one.
The very next flight I put her in by getting too slow on the landing approach but the damage was limited to the prop and nose gear. I was very lucky.
I have not flown her or her sister ship a V2 Trojan 'Huff n Puff' for a while but intend to get them both back in the air soon.
It is only a short twelve seconds but I hope you all enjoy the show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuGJENYgJMA

Regards and respect
Daryl

PS there is no sound....
and if you watch the next video after it, you will see that FMS have actually got the nose gear very correct indeed and all you blokes need to say sorry to FMS [watch it first blokes, you know that there will be a catch, do you not??]

[Flygirl]

Nice landing! Glad the knees have stopped shaking ;)

[Ron1950]

nice landing u guys dont beleave in long vids huh? was that real t28 made up in south Vietnam colors?

[Pheonix]

I still have version 1 and everything still works. I had two but gave one to a club member and she still flies it today. I fly the grey one now using a Zippy compact 4500 30C battery and get about 7-8 minutes flying time. This one of my favorite planes to fly.

[wrongroad]

G'day Flygirl,
Thank you for your gracious comment on the landing, it was a thousand percent better then the end of flight number two when I really made a mess of the approach and dropped her in from about ten feet or so.
I broke all three prop blades, mangled the nose gear and also wrecked the mechanism in both of the main gear. The big problem was I had traveled four hundred kilometres [one way] to get in one flight:(:(
I am about to get her out of the hanger and put some more flights in the log book.
Funny enough, I do not rate the landing at all these days and I would be upset with myself if I was to plonk her down like that again.:)
However, under the circumstance I can be happy with getting the maiden out of the way.
We have a club rule that a pilot can 'call the sky' for a maiden flight or a test flight and the sky is all to the pilot. The trouble is, you KNOW that everyone is watching you. Talk about stress.
Two years later and the knees are still knocking:p:p.

G'day Ron,I was originally trying to repaint the Trojan in Philippines Airforce Colours and even emailed the PAF for more information, explaining that my wife is from the Philippines and I wanted to paint the T-28 in the PAF colours.
I also explained that only photos I could find were of poor quality and that I wanted to get it right.
I am yet to receive a reply.
So I looked around and came across the Drone Control colour scheme used by the US Navy and it was an a AHHH HAAAA moment!
The Navy only painted six T-28's in this scheme and all were slightly different.
So I picked out the one that I liked the best and contacted Callie for decals and a bit more information that Callie duly supplied. [What great service]
I ordered and paid for the decals that arrived in Australia at my door on Christmas Eve about two hours after the model arrived. Talk about great timing.:cool:
I had the red / white unit and set about removing as much of the red paint as possible and most of it did come off quite easily. What did not come off was carefully lifted off with masking tape.
After eight days of working on the model ten to twelve hours a day [I was on holidays] this is what came out of the garage.
I have plans to do another T-28 but the paint scheme is a secret right now but I can promise you it is bold and bright and did adorn a full size Trojan if only for a short time before the aircraft and crew meet a tragic end.
I just need to gather the funds for the model;)
I have the Air Force Huff n Puff and the full size plane lives not all that far from me here in Australia and I photographed it here last January.
I have the V2 in HnP scheme. If you see a model and note the VH-TRO reg number under the tail.
The only thing is that Kim fills the cockpit window a bit more then the FMS pilot.:D:D
The reason for the short vid is that the camera was hunting, even in man focus mode, due to the very low light and dark clouds. It started to rain just after I landed and it was very dark indeed. This matches the length of the take off footage for the only usable footage.
Regards and respect
Daryl

[wrongroad]

G'day Ron,
The nose gear failure Trojan also lives nearby here in Australia and is a serious paint scheme of a US squadron by I will have to check the details for you.
A fellow RC pilot Rob Knox has a FMS unit done up like this so I will contact him and get some gory details for you.
I have not seen Robs unit in the flesh yet but I hope to catch up with him soon. He only lives four hours away so it is not a big drive to catch up.
Regards and respect
Daryl

[Ron1950]

just looked up the pics of s vietnam t28s that is what it was all right....we trained a bunch of south Vietnam pilots at nas whiting field in early 70's when I was there

[wrongroad]

G'day Ron,
Firstly, I am sorry that I miss read your post and then that I wrote 'US squadron' in my blubbering.
A twelve hour working day plus and hours drive to and from made me a bit stoopid last night. Heck, I am not much better tonight either!!
I did mean to say a legitimate squadron but I was not sure of the country.
As you have found out the answer, I have do not have to go any further;)
The Trojan that bows down for the crowd was at an airshow in a city called Toowoomba in Queensland Australia about four hours drive from my home and just west of Brisbane.
I have made the comment that FMS made the nose gear to perfection :D:D
We have just received the first cool change here tonight so it will be nice flying weather for a while...what am I saying, we always have good flying weather here! It is time for you to visit.
I just wish that the loto numbers would fall my way and all my flying friends would have airplane tickets to the great down under.
Regards and respect
Daryl

[Ron1950]

not sure if anyone wants to do this but if u want to make your T28 a C model rather then the B model as it comes here is a super easy tail hook

first order the T45 jet tail hook from spare parts here at mrc,,,$3.99 then with a exacto knife cut off the tail skid on your model(its the small hump on bottom of tail)
next I cut about half off the tail hook holder just to make it more T28ish
now u have to cut slits in the foam about the same size as the hook holder assembly and fit it about half way into the foam next hook the small hook snap in holder and glue both into the foam(u might have to trim some off the snap hook holder edges) but be sure u can get to the tail hold down screw...your done!! and now u have a t28C model sence the square tipped prop is already in place..
oh ya... cut the t28b decal under the tail to show just t28 lol
very easy to do and now your T28 doesent look like every other T28 in the modeling world

[wrongroad]

G'day Ron,
It is nice to have a model that is different to all the other mass produce units. That is why I painted my Trojan and why number three will get a repaint as well. When I can afford the ever steepening price for one that is:rolleyes:
I like your changes as well and as you said, make the model yours.
Of course if everyone takes your advice............. still any mod makes it your machine. And I like what I see.
We did not get any flying in here today and I would doubt that anyone between Brisbane and Melbourne would have flown on the eastern seaboard. We have been hit with some nasty weather that would be called a Typhoon, Cyclone or Hurricane if it formed in the tropics.
I have been trying to organise a Trojan day at our field as there as at least eight Trojans in the club of various breeding and power plants. I might get it to work one day. It is a case of getting everyone together on the one day. Harder than it sounds.
Regards and respect
Daryl

PS that is post 100!!

[Ron1950]

way too quite in here...anyone put the second pilot in there v4 yet? be carefull as the back seat area of the cockpit is raised so u either have to shave the floor down and repaint or shortin the pilot figure or just say screw it and move the figure closer to the dash board and tell everyone the instructor had his chair raised to see the carrier deck on landing

[Ron1950]

[Sky Wolf]

I didn't realize it only came with one pilot on the V4? Bummer! That's the way the old Airfield (NitroPlanes) version came. It also only had a 50amp esc installed. Still rocking my FMS V1 version with the cowl flaps and sequenced doors...as long as I can.

[seaviper]

I did the two-pilot mod. I cooked my cockpit on the first day out with the bird (I am a newby at foam). So, I ordered a new cockpit from MRC. The cockpit arrived with a pilot who looked like he had been through a rough flight. His head was cocked over a bit to the side and he had a big glob of glue behind him to which he was not attached. So I separated the canopy from the tub carefully and cleaned up the glue mess. I also recovered my original pilot and cleaned them both up. That glue they use is nasty.

I got the glue off the canopy itself with an abrasive eraser I picked up at Hobby Lobby in the plastic models area.

The rear cockpit is tight, but since the pilot was tilted over a bit, he fit. I had to repair the seat and do some touch-up paint on a new cockpit, but all in all it looks ok. The CG was not adversely affected. I attached the canopy and pilots with gorilla glue. So far so good.

I forgot to mention this bird also has a FrSky airspeed sensor installed along with RPM, temp, altitude, and battery sensors.