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  • MikeT
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    • Jan 2016
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    #21
    Looks great. Mine arrived yesterday. Looking forward to the assembly.

    Mike
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    • TiredIronGRB
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      • Jan 2016
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      #22
      Originally posted by Aros.MotionRC
      Spray can? It doesn't look brushed on... From the photos I assume you paint matched as it looks like a perfect match to the OD.

      Brushed, I had it color matched but you can still tell in person even though I feathered it out. I used several types of brushes including squirrel tail hair and exploded tip polyester which will give you a very smooth finish.
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      • Aros
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        • May 2013
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        #23
        Wow that's impressive! Looked smooth enough to trick me into thinking it was sprayed on.
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        • TiredIronGRB
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          #24
          I'm thinking about adding suspension to the struts, I think I can modify the FMS 1400MM P51 struts to work, I'm going to get two sets so I can use one on the nose gear so if it works out I will have a spare.

          ​Stay tuned...
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          • Aros
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            #25
            ..........
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            • Lon
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              • Jul 2014
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              #26
              Originally posted by crxmanpat
              He stated it was aluminum screen material. Mine are hard to see (I used black fabric screen material as I had a roll on hand). I think I'll paint mine silver so they stand out a little more.
              I used the aluminum screen material. Looks great!
              Lon

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              • StormyDog1962
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                • Sep 2014
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                #27
                I for one am very impressed, looks great!!

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                • TiredIronGRB
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                  #28
                  Thanks Wayne!
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                  • Aros
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Lon

                    I used the aluminum screen material. Looks great!
                    Yeah I am going to paint my screen mesh aluminum. I like the look of how it stands out more.
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                    • TiredIronGRB
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                      • Jan 2016
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                      #30
                      I couldn't wait until the parts to come in so yes, that is "Iron Ass" tits up in the background...this worked out really good on the mains, I may even try to get the 3.35" tires to work.

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                      This is the pin to adapt the P38 retract to the FW strut.

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                      Will probably have to go with the FMS P51 3" wheels...probably...maybe not.

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                      The Robart 2.75" compared to the FW P51 3.35".
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                      • rtwatkins
                        Unusual Attitude Recovery Specialist

                        • Oct 2014
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                        #31
                        how's the fit for the wheels and gear doors when retracted? any issues?

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                        • Alpha
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                          • Feb 2015
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                          #32
                          That's quite a size difference, Tired Iron. Looks nice. The one note I would add is to be mindful of the weight you're adding. The stock wheel is significantly lighter than the Freewing strut/wheel, and it's all shifting aft during retraction.
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                          • TiredIronGRB
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                            #33
                            The 3.35" are way too large, hopefully the 3" FMS will clear well...I'll work on the weight balance one I get the front wheel working.
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                            • Aros
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                              #34
                              Oh man those oleos on the P-51 struts look SWEET on this bird. Fantastic.
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                              • Grossman56
                                Dangerous Dan *HobbySquawk Moderator*

                                • Jun 2014
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                                #35
                                Great idea Tired Iron, really dresses her up!

                                Grossman56
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                                • TiredIronGRB
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                                  #36
                                  The nose gear was a job...

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                                  To make the rod to steer the nose wheel I used a straight section of a spring, to keep it from twisting in the strut I drilled holes at 9 and 4 o'clock then drove the rod through which put a bend in it and keeps it from moving...this was a pain.

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                                  I cut the stock strut off at the flat, then tightened the P51 strut on the stub.

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                                  I used the 2.5" Robart on the Nose and will use the FMS P51 3" wheels on the mains.

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                                  The nose gear is a little stiff so I will cut a couple coils off the spring inside the strut, the main will need the spring stretched as they are about a quarter of the way compressed from the weight of the plane.

                                  Here's a short video of the gear deploying and steering.
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                                  • Aros
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                                    #37
                                    That's a lot of work but the payoff is that it looks absolutely incredible. I sure wish it came with those oleo struts. I am tempted to follow your lead but I don't think I have the patience and skill.
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                                    • TiredIronGRB
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                                      #38
                                      Originally posted by Aros.MotionRC
                                      That's a lot of work but the payoff is that it looks absolutely incredible. I sure wish it came with those oleo struts. I am tempted to follow your lead but I don't think I have the patience and skill.

                                      The mains are easy...the nose, not so much ;)
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                                      • TSHobbies
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                                        #39
                                        That does look great.Im assuming it wasnt possible to use the stock steer arm?
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                                        • TiredIronGRB
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                                          #40
                                          Originally posted by TSHobbies
                                          That does look great.Im assuming it wasnt possible to use the stock steer arm?
                                          I thought about milling out the P51 strut and sliding the P38 steering arm up ino it but that would have weakened the strut considerably. I used the straight section of a throttle spring because of it's tensile strength.
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