Admiral RX600SP 6-channel DSMX with Stability Plus Gyro

[James]

Hi guys, I have several of the old Lemon rec/stabs, And all are great in planes that have no flaps or retracts, I want to get this new style to use in a plane with flaps and retracts, And now I see some are having problems with throttle cutouts on certain occasions, So right now I am hesitant to purchase one, However, THIS Information May or May Not be of value to this group concerning this problem of throttle cutout. Not so long ago a Co. in Florida called HeadsUp RC, was closing up, and had everything on sale, Among all the things I purchased was several 6 channel "Powerup" brand receivers, They are type Spekrum compatible, And installed a few in some cheap homemade foam planes, And WOW they work great! ( I have a Spekrum DX6 new model), HOWEVER, I noticed I was having throttle cutout issues with these receivers, Not just One, But All of them!, Then I discovered that If you pointed the transmitter directly at the plane,Yep throttle will cut out, Keep antenna on transmitter 90 degrees away from plane it works just fine! SO maybe that is the issue here with this stab/rec. As it is easy to do without realizing, You stand behind your plane, take off, and your antenna is pointed at the plane, Or while flying, You are watching the plane and point the antenna at the plane, Hence- A brownout, Or throttle cutout. I may be wrong here, But I know it has happened to me, Just may be one of those things that makes you think... Hope someone finds a solution. Take care

Do you have a picture of how you are mounting the receiver? I have seen many who mount a receiver (any receiver) and not tape off the aerials at 90 degree angles for max coverage. Many time at events I see people open there planes and the receiver is just in there and the aerials are next to each other, or touching the battery, esc or something else powered electrically which will 100% cause signal issues.

You always want to mount any receiver as far from all the other electronics as possible AND tape off the aerials at 90 degrees from each other.

[James]

Admiral RX600SP "Panic Recovery" setup on a switch. Sorry guys if I missed this somewhere but here goes. I installed the RX600SP in a 6 channel aircraft (4 + Flaps and Retracts) using a DX8 gen2 transmitter and I couldn't get the switch to activate Panic Recovery, gyro worked fine. Deleted and recreated the aircraft twice, double and triple checked the setup still not working. Contacted support and was told it was a issue with the DX8 setup and that the receiver was fine and to check my setup. I have installed the RX600SP in 3 other aircraft and had no issues. I then begin checking the setup of the working plane (T-28) and they where the same as for as "Mixes" and "Channel Assignment". So I then deleted the Hellcat in the DX8 and copied the T-28 over and the switch worked. So I was tweaking the setup and now the switch isn't working. Turns out that I had reversed the gear servo (to get gear up with the switch up and down etc) and this kills the recovery switch. So just a FYI if this should happen to you check you gear servo setting. I'm not sure why support didn't suggest I check this.

So, since you reversed the gear switch, then you went into the mix and went to -5 rather than 5? That makes sense since the GER channel in the mix is part of the setup

[I-fly-rc-aircraft]

Quick question. On Freewing planes/edfs with the MCBE board and the Admiral rx600sp rx. Can I plug the UBEC into the the MCBE to free up Aux 2?

TIA, Tom

[Len P.]

Hi guys, I have several of the old Lemon rec/stabs, And all are great in planes that have no flaps or retracts, I want to get this new style to use in a plane with flaps and retracts, And now I see some are having problems with throttle cutouts on certain occasions, So right now I am hesitant to purchase one, However, THIS Information May or May Not be of value to this group concerning this problem of throttle cutout. Not so long ago a Co. in Florida called HeadsUp RC, was closing up, and had everything on sale, Among all the things I purchased was several 6 channel "Powerup" brand receivers, They are type Spekrum compatible, And installed a few in some cheap homemade foam planes, And WOW they work great! ( I have a Spekrum DX6 new model), HOWEVER, I noticed I was having throttle cutout issues with these receivers, Not just One, But All of them!, Then I discovered that If you pointed the transmitter directly at the plane,Yep throttle will cut out, Keep antenna on transmitter 90 degrees away from plane it works just fine! SO maybe that is the issue here with this stab/rec. As it is easy to do without realizing, You stand behind your plane, take off, and your antenna is pointed at the plane, Or while flying, You are watching the plane and point the antenna at the plane, Hence- A brownout, Or throttle cutout. I may be wrong here, But I know it has happened to me, Just may be one of those things that makes you think... Hope someone finds a solution. Take care

[Rossgtn]

Admiral RX600SP "Panic Recovery" setup on a switch. Sorry guys if I missed this somewhere but here goes. I installed the RX600SP in a 6 channel aircraft (4 + Flaps and Retracts) using a DX8 gen2 transmitter and I couldn't get the switch to activate Panic Recovery, gyro worked fine. Deleted and recreated the aircraft twice, double and triple checked the setup still not working. Contacted support and was told it was a issue with the DX8 setup and that the receiver was fine and to check my setup. I have installed the RX600SP in 3 other aircraft and had no issues. I then begin checking the setup of the working plane (T-28) and they where the same as for as "Mixes" and "Channel Assignment". So I then deleted the Hellcat in the DX8 and copied the T-28 over and the switch worked. So I was tweaking the setup and now the switch isn't working. Turns out that I had reversed the gear servo (to get gear up with the switch up and down etc) and this kills the recovery switch. So just a FYI if this should happen to you check you gear servo setting. I'm not sure why support didn't suggest I check this.

[Chris___aviation]

Hey Chris___aviation , welcome to squawk. Check out our playlist on Youtube. Takes you step by step through setting one up: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...BH3kNxu02zx0WP

the Problem is that my radio doesn’t have the letter I and the Ger when I want to program the Mix so I can’t program it. Can you help?

[James]

Hi
I have a Spektrum DX7s and wanted to ask if anyone uses it with the Admiral RX600SP with stability plus gyro. If you do use that setup could you tell me how to setup the recovery mode?
thanks
Christoph

Hey Chris___aviation , welcome to squawk. Check out our playlist on Youtube. Takes you step by step through setting one up: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...BH3kNxu02zx0WP

[Chris___aviation]

Hi
I have a Spektrum DX7s and wanted to ask if anyone uses it with the Admiral RX600SP with stability plus gyro. If you do use that setup could you tell me how to setup the recovery mode?
thanks
Christoph

[curlyculp]

My motor shutdown also happens on approach. I do NOT get any chirps from the esc. Funny thing is, after I landed (both times this happened), I can't get the motor to respond until after I return flaps to normal. After that the motor responded normally to throttle commands.

I've had several shutdowns with the RX6000SP. Most were on a 6cell 70mm EDF on landing rollout. Most of those (maybe all) when the airplane left the pavement and went in the grass. Cycling the throttle cut switch brought the motor back to life. But the last one was 5 seconds after liftoff. I was able to safely deadstick it back, but haven't been able to duplicate it. I put a battery in, turn the motor one, tap the receiver, shake it, bounce the airplane up and down... nothing.

On my 90mm EDF, I had the motor quit on takeoff roll. Cycled the throttle cut and again, came back to life. Flew it and had no problem.

These are scary issues. I started a separate thread on the problem and most think it's the ESC. I'm doubting that now.

I'll get a resistance checker for the batteries.

[curlyculp]

Needs to mounted upright per the product support page update of Jan 28,2019
https://www.motionrc.com/collections...er#support-tab

This is directly from the quick start-up guide also
INSTALATION – The Admiral RX600SP must be installed on a surface that is horizontal when the model is in normal level flight attitude. The long axis of the unit must be aligned with direction of flight and the servo connectors should be to the rear of the aircraft. NOTE: It must be installed in an upright facing position.

I have one mounted upside down and works great. It shouldn't matter. It doesn't know up from down. All it senses is movement about the 3 axis's. (there's no such thing as 6) And the corrections can all be reversed. Just make sure it's mounted lengthwise and you should be good. Set the sensitivity of the 3 axis's to high, and simply pick it up and test it. If the counter movements are backwards, change the appropriate dip switch.

[OV10]

Thanks OV10 for the reply. I've read that but was wondering if there was a way to install the unit in an ' old style pattern ' plane. I would assume this receiver will only work as a Receiver for those types of aircraft.

"old style"...……….HA...…...it's a models, so make it work by configuring an appropriate mounting base for the Rx
This Rx will work in any aircraft with the correct number of channels.

[Spitfire]

Thanks OV10 for the reply. I've read that but was wondering if there was a way to install the unit in an ' old style pattern ' plane. I would assume this receiver will only work as a Receiver for those types of aircraft.

[OV10]

Am getting ready to set-up the RX600SP in a pattern/sport plane and am concerned about the mounting of the RX in the plane. This is a low wing plane so the fuselage mounts on top of the wing. Inside the fuselage, the plywood plate for mounting things - like the receiver - would have the rx600sp upside down. I'm sure you can in-vision this. Is this ok and what problems will I in-counter?

Needs to mounted upright per the product support page update of Jan 28,2019
https://www.motionrc.com/collections...er#support-tab

This is directly from the quick start-up guide also
INSTALATION – The Admiral RX600SP must be installed on a surface that is horizontal when the model is in normal level flight attitude. The long axis of the unit must be aligned with direction of flight and the servo connectors should be to the rear of the aircraft. NOTE: It must be installed in an upright facing position.

[Spitfire]

Am getting ready to set-up the RX600SP in a pattern/sport plane and am concerned about the mounting of the RX in the plane. This is a low wing plane so the fuselage mounts on top of the wing. Inside the fuselage, the plywood plate for mounting things - like the receiver - would have the rx600sp upside down. I'm sure you can in-vision this. Is this ok and what problems will I in-counter?

[xviper]

Can someone tell me which gyro is the best to use on my new freewing AL37 Airliner

Since you are on Futaba, you need a gyro that isn't protocol specific, like the ones that are built into a receiver. For this sort of plane, you can do with something that is simple and stabilizes each axis, particularly the AIL and ELE axis and to a lesser extent, the RUD. "Best" in an individual assessment and preference. A very simple one is the HobbyEagle A3L. You can manually adjust the gains or you can set it up to be turned ON/OFF and even do master gain via a knob on your TX. Another good one, but without the ability to turn ON/OFF or have a master gain, is Freewing's own gyro. Both of these get spliced in between the RX and the servos.

[Denniswpb]

Futaba is NOT a DSM protocol so the answer to Cayman one, Futaba is not compatible with Spektrum/Admiral/Lemon Rx's

Well then, there ya' go.. Like I said, I'm a Spektrum guy.

[OV10]

I'm a Spektrum guy so I can't tell you for 100%, but as long as Futaba is using DSMX protocol, I don't see an issue.

Futaba is NOT a DSM protocol so the answer to Cayman one, Futaba is not compatible with Spektrum/Admiral/Lemon Rx's

[Denniswpb]

Probably best to ask that question on the AL37 forum https://www.hobbysquawk.com/forum/rc...ommercial-jets I'm sure someone there can give you great advise on it.

[Cayman one]

What’s the best flap setting for takeoff and landing of the freewing AL37

[Denniswpb]

I'm a Spektrum guy so I can't tell you for 100%, but as long as Futaba is using DSMX protocol, I don't see an issue.