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Working for Piper would be great! A good friend of mine retired from Piper not that long ago and still lives in the Vero Beach area. We used to work together in Michigan and been a close family friend for decades. A classmate from elementary school left Piper to move back to Michigan and is at the company I work for now. He is a test engineer.
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Are you referring to the Altaire jet? I read a bunch on that thing years ago but haven't heard anything new since.Originally posted by F22trainer View Post
All I can say is Piper already has a single engine jet completed, but as of now Turboprops M500 and M600 are the only turbines they market, which I will be taking one home from KCOS on Saturday. But I learned a lot about Pipers’ direction today and it is all great. Cheyenne was a variant of the Navajo - both fine airframes. The Comanche was built as both a single and a twin and had one major problem - they didn’t want to land, especially the twin. Even at idle it would float in ground effect below stall speed and they had very short landing gear...to make getting in and loading easier.
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I will post up a few pics of the M600, May even overfly the AMPS RC Field as it is 3 nm west of the airport.
and, Thanks Woody!
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Ya know mate, I knew one guy pretty well that had one of the Comanche 400's and he loved it. But the Twin Comanche's were really nothing special. People that had them seemed to be proud of em. I get that's what brought us to the Seneca's. But honestly I never new the details.
Woody
PS, fly safe man.
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All I can say is Piper already has a single engine jet completed, but as of now Turboprops M500 and M600 are the only turbines they market, which I will be taking one home from KCOS on Saturday. But I learned a lot about Pipers’ direction today and it is all great. Cheyenne was a variant of the Navajo - both fine airframes. The Comanche was built as both a single and a twin and had one major problem - they didn’t want to land, especially the twin. Even at idle it would float in ground effect below stall speed and they had very short landing gear...to make getting in and loading easier.Originally posted by Woodcock View PostAs I remenber, I remember wrong a lot. Piper made a 400hp single engine plane called the Comanchee 400. It was heralded as the best single piston engine plane Piper ever built at the time. They stopped making it.
The old pecking order use to be, from best to least best was, Beachcraft, Piper, then Cessna. I think Cessna may have passed Piper as they do make a very nice line of bussiness jets, but I really don't know since I haven't flown anything small, other than just sittiing in the right seat of a Citation very recently. Kinda like kissing your sister. They wouldn't even let me do a departure in it. I bet I had 15 or 20 times the hours of both of them put together. LOL
When I think of Piper, my personal favorite was a Chyann, (not sure I spelled that right, doing this on my phone). As I remember that was a nice plane. I loved the way the Comanchee 400 looked. Sad I never got the chance to fly it.
Woody
PS, hey F22, love the build picts man. Is Piper building any Jets? I like to think I dont really have a preference in plane types, but I do like Lockheed, and Boeing products quite a bit.
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As I remenber, I remember wrong a lot. Piper made a 400hp single engine plane called the Comanchee 400. It was heralded as the best single piston engine plane Piper ever built at the time. They stopped making it.
The old pecking order use to be, from best to least best was, Beachcraft, Piper, then Cessna. I think Cessna may have passed Piper as they do make a very nice line of bussiness jets, but I really don't know since I haven't flown anything small, other than just sittiing in the right seat of a Citation very recently. Kinda like kissing your sister. They wouldn't even let me do a departure in it. I bet I had 15 or 20 times the hours of both of them put together. LOL
When I think of Piper, my personal favorite was a Chyann, (not sure I spelled that right, doing this on my phone). As I remember that was a nice plane. I loved the way the Comanchee 400 looked. Sad I never got the chance to fly it.
Woody
PS, hey F22, love the build picts man. Is Piper building any Jets? I like to think I dont really have a preference in plane types, but I do like Lockheed, and Boeing products quite a bit.
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Couldn’t agree more - get it on the same level as an ARF from Phoenix / Hangar 9 or T-6 / Mustang from eFlite / FMS, respectively.Originally posted by Evoman View PostI would not mind seeing some Piper airplanes. But the few that I have seen so far look a bit too similar to the Dynam Gran Cruiser. It would great to see a model that is really different than this.
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I would not mind seeing some Piper airplanes. But the few that I have seen so far look a bit too similar to the Dynam Gran Cruiser. It would great to see a model that is really different than this.
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Then I took the opportunity to let him know about the interest in the model community for Piper products.
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See post #156 above, that Seminole went on test flight about 15 days ago. I just had lunch and sat next to Simon - he told me the factory is at about 50%. They need to fill jobs and right now they want to break 1000 employees by Dec.Originally posted by JamesonC View Post
Are they still producing the Seminole?
Wanna build real airplanes - Piper is hiring.
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Are they still producing the Seminole?Originally posted by F22trainer View Post
I am at a convention right now and just listened to some long awaited updates regarding Piper products from CEO Simon Caldecott. Every training aircraft Piper is able to produce, are sold through summer of 2022. Major expansions are also underway with regard to current production including 3D printed parts to reduce outsource of inventory and replacement parts.
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I am at a convention right now and just listened to some long awaited updates regarding Piper products from CEO Simon Caldecott. Every training aircraft Piper is able to produce, are sold through summer of 2022. Major expansions are also underway with regard to current production including 3D printed parts to reduce outsource of inventory and replacement parts.Originally posted by BRGT350 View Post
Growing up around Pipers, I always have a preference to their aircraft. I remember as a kid touring Vero Beach and just loving all the aircraft going together.
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Growing up around Pipers, I always have a preference to their aircraft. I remember as a kid touring Vero Beach and just loving all the aircraft going together.Originally posted by F22trainer View Post
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Ever since I saw the Diamond DA62 I thought it was one of the sharpest looking twins out there. I bet an RC model of the DA62 would probably be one of the fastest twins than even the F7F Tigercat.
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:Cool:Originally posted by BRGT350 View PostYeah, a King Air would be awesome! ... A larger twin with retracts would really be nice.
As an indirect representative of Piper Aircraft, I am certainly biased to one of their twins, and I think a Seneca would be one of the better choices to produce, based on actual flight characteristics. Seminole is not bad either, but I have always been a fan of the Navajo also.
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The Beechcraft King Air looks sharp. This the 350ER for special missions. It could be a good seller since it would be the best quality civilian twin available if Flight Line made it.
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As I! I haven't had a failed motor, ESC, or servo in any of my Dynam models. Some times they are not the most powerful, but I kinda like that, as almost any real airplane, with some exceptions never seem to have as much power as you would like to have. To me it just makes flying more interesting. I'm getting ready to assemble a brand spanking new Dynam T-28, I got for 50 bucks. It was 50 bucks, because I bought 50 raffle tickets. Won that, and another plane I gave to a friend. So I'll let you know how the retracts work out. If these don't work I think I'm just going to epoxy them in the down position, or remove them entirely, and make a hand launcher out of it. Just depends how I fee at the moment.Originally posted by fhhuber View Post
It would be great if hey offered "no electronics, no motor" ARFs...
Stick in good servos/retracts/motor(s)/ESCs in and they are great.
Mostly I've gotten good motors and serviceable servos/retracts from Dynam, but I know there are better.
Woody
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Wowa, TBM 850, looks like a cabin class single engine turbo prop. Hey your not T22Trainer! I bet that would make a nice flying model for sure. As for the real one, I never liked flying planes or helicopters with just one engine. But that's something else entirely. Pretty plane though.
Woody
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I agree! The MU-2 would be really cool as well as a King Air. Another nice model would be a TBM 850.Originally posted by Woodcock View Post
I like the way you're thinking here. I believe a King Air 200 model would fly really well. The longer tail moment and the T-tail, I think would work great. How ever if given the choice, I would prefer a Mitsubishi MU-2, commonly known as a, "Rice Rocket". It had this name much earlier than when they started referring to Japanese motorcycles. I honestly think it was the original coined term. Once again it would have to be the larger longer one, and forget about making it original with spoilerons, and just simply put traditional ailerons on it. THe MU-2 didn't have ailerons, and flying it with spoilerons was a very different experience. This was a little plane had pretty extreme performance for a Turbo Prop Civilian Aircraft. Not many planes in it's class would keep up with it. But if they were going to do a civi plane, this would be a good one in my opinion.
Woody
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Indeed, i just wish they wouldn't glue the extrntions together, ended up replacing all the wires when i replaced the retracts on the b26
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