What's next from Motion RC?

[OV10]

We all need to let this sink in (The one from the other man. sells it if you can get one! they always run out of Stock) Look at Free Wings F-14 Tom Cat With the Swing wings, I believe that is one of their best selling EDF's The way I look at it ( it's only a few more Dollars LOL!!! just don't tell the old Lady

Tell her WHAT............. that ya are spending lots of moolah on models or ya called her old

[Wild Man]

We all need to let this sink in (The one from the other man. sells it if you can get one! they always run out of Stock) Look at Free Wings F-14 Tom Cat With the Swing wings, I believe that is one of their best selling EDF's The way I look at it ( it's only a few more Dollars LOL!!! just don't tell the old Lady

[starcop]

You aren't the only one Wildman that would be all over a Corsair with folding wings but I'm not gonna hold my breath because the cost for those types of features just skyrockets the final product price.
The Banana still sells (when they keep it in stock LOL) the folding wing Corsair ( LX/BlitzRCWorks F4U Corsair) which is normally $500 and that is for a 1200mm sized airframe.
I can imagine that a FL 1600 Corsair would have to be in the $600 range and that just creeps into the out of range pricing for the majority.
I can remember when 1450 sized aircraft at $300 was hard to swallow but as the bar was raised by Flight Line to the 1600 sized $400+ warbirds, that became the new pill to swallow.
When does the pill size start to choke the modeler out

I'd love to see Alpha design a Folding wing Corsair! I'd absolutely, positively purchase one or two. That is my favorite airplane of all warbirds. Motion RC, if you build it they will come! Eventually, they will break down and purchase it. It's like a Rock Star drink in the vending machine. Even though, they know it's $1.38 at the store. If a person wants one, they will spend $3.00 to get a cold one out of the vending machine. In time, everyone will get what they want. Just an example of how people work.

[Oxotnik]

I'm really jonseing for a nicely done Italian fighter. Would love a Macchi MC.202 or .205, or a Fiat G.55. I doubt that we'll ever see any of them in foam, but if one were released, I'd be slinging elbows to get to the front of the line to get one.

[OV10]

I would love to see a V2 of the Flight Line F4U-1A/D Corsair The only thing missing is the Folding wings I would buy one in a heart beat. I have spent the last two weeks of Sub Zero weather here in the Black Hills of South Dakota Scaling out the Bird Cage version Not quite done yet. Our weather is looking up. By the end of next week I should be ready to test fly the Corsair. I can't wait Please a V2 Corsair with Folding Wings

You aren't the only one Wildman that would be all over a Corsair with folding wings but I'm not gonna hold my breath because the cost for those types of features just skyrockets the final product price.
The Banana still sells (when they keep it in stock LOL) the folding wing Corsair ( LX/BlitzRCWorks F4U Corsair) which is normally $500 and that is for a 1200mm sized airframe.
I can imagine that a FL 1600 Corsair would have to be in the $600 range and that just creeps into the out of range pricing for the majority.
I can remember when 1450 sized aircraft at $300 was hard to swallow but as the bar was raised by Flight Line to the 1600 sized $400+ warbirds, that became the new pill to swallow.
When does the pill size start to choke the modeler out

[hirth90]

Hi Alpha How about a 90mm EDF version of the SAB Avio, M169 Havok

Who wouldn't want that in their hangar

[Wild Man]

I would love to see a V2 of the Flight Line F4U-1A/D Corsair The only thing missing is the Folding wings I would buy one in a heart beat. I have spent the last two weeks of Sub Zero weather here in the Black Hills of South Dakota Scaling out the Bird Cage version Not quite done yet. Our weather is looking up. By the end of next week I should be ready to test fly the Corsair. I can't wait Please a V2 Corsair with Folding Wings

[hirth90]

A very cost effective way to revive interest in the F16 90mm and 70mm is to produce foam conformal tanks. This would be of great interest to those wishing to repaint their models and give them a different look.

[Shrop]

Yeah! +1million for a large Wildcat

Fleet Air Arm Martlet scheme would be my choice for a 1600mm F4F. Or a FAA F6F!!

[starcop]

Ha! The average interval between when a new product is delivered and when we're asked "what's next" is less than a week. Good fun :)

For practical purposes including multinational language barriers, all of our projects have names. Sometimes those names reach the public ear, sometimes they don't. Sometimes those names are actually related to the model in a loosely identifiable way, sometimes they're completely random and undecipherable.

If you're certain you want to waste the next couple of hours on Google trying to break the code while avoiding madness...

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HAHAHA! Great sense of humor. Love it!

[Griffon Wings]

I'm thinking something really different would be great. AL37 was a great idea, it is different from the standard fighters, and seems to sell well based on the number I see at my local field.

Alpha already addressed the many challenges with going bigger, but it's just a matter of the price people are willing to pay, and I really think that market is underdone. What about a 105mm, or even a 120mm? There is only one RTF 120mm EDF in the market as far as I can see (the HSD T-33). I would buy any Freewing release in the 105-120mm range, doesn't matter what it is. I'd buy a scale Dumbo the Elephant if it was the first giant Freewing jet.

Put me down for a Dumbo aswell!!
i will buy even a broken shoe with motion if does have flaps and gears !! Agree with you GT .
i think Alpha will drop soon an un aspect candy to us ... you think plane and show up with cars, you think boat and show with tanks ...
as far price, we have pilots spending good amounts on balsa models or Helis , I’m probably wrong because i’ll see it more as a consumer and not as a maker , but, if you coming out with something well done even if price higher of usual, can be successful.
will i pay 8-900ish $ for a scaled yak 130 105 size ??
right immidiatly now ( bad English but great answer )
meanwhile, i still druling ony mig-29 , thank you again for that one Sir ,Alpha.

[Gringotuerto]

I'm thinking something really different would be great. AL37 was a great idea, it is different from the standard fighters, and seems to sell well based on the number I see at my local field.

Alpha already addressed the many challenges with going bigger, but it's just a matter of the price people are willing to pay, and I really think that market is underdone. What about a 105mm, or even a 120mm? There is only one RTF 120mm EDF in the market as far as I can see (the HSD T-33). I would buy any Freewing release in the 105-120mm range, doesn't matter what it is. I'd buy a scale Dumbo the Elephant if it was the first giant Freewing jet.

[Prowler901]

Yeah! +1million for a large Wildcat

[CF-105]

What we REALLY need is, a 60"-70" wingspan F4F Wildcat, preferably BH or Nexa.

:D

[Griffon Wings]

Alpha mentioned quite a while back that he was working on a C130 when Avios announced theirs. He put it on the back burner at that time since he believed that similar releases at the same time don't help either company. I wonder how much longer we have to wait to finally get a Flightline C130!

Ehhh JamesonC everyone wish to know when ,right?
Flightline’s such of a “ new “ company , my guess is to wait little longer. I think covid mix everyone plans and lot of goodies rest on back burner..
wish on something big, like the AL-37 or the new mig-29 and why not even bigger .
we don’t see a 90mm for a wile if i’m mot wrong...

[JamesonC]

Hi OV10, no breath holding over here , just a wish , as a huge C-130 or some like it.
i have high belive in the company and that’s why want or not are second to none ( only my opinion) often offering products “ out the box “ or and at list very well done .
market request is something, possibilities from Alpha are limitless, i think .
don’t get me wrong, those are just wishes, same as i making to my wife asking a ferrari for Christmas, but i’m always getting a plane, which make me very HAPPY all the time .
can you say no to this ? Drops of tanks or soldiers with parachute or such? Can be great for videos from so many angles.
thank you for the replay , always great to know more and more. Appreciated.

Alpha mentioned quite a while back that he was working on a C130 when Avios announced theirs. He put it on the back burner at that time since he believed that similar releases at the same time don't help either company. I wonder how much longer we have to wait to finally get a Flightline C130!

[F106DeltaDart]

The current Rotormast V-22 comes as an ARF "kit" and runs over $1700.00. By the time you've got all the stuff it needs to actually fly, it's a very expensive model - way too much for most people. Of the existing V-22's, the Eflite one was a bust and is discontinued. It was a neat little model but had too many glitches. The Banana Hobby V-22 may be the most successful but it too, has some glitches that can confound the average RC pilot (it even happened to RC Informer). I'm on my 3rd one because, I love the concept and they are affordable enough that I can try yet another one. Eventually, one can learn what things NOT to do when flying with it and get some good fun for the money spent.
Roban doesn't appear to be a low priced brand and if they took up the cause, I fear it will also be a very expensive model. The V-22 doesn't appeal to the masses and this would limit the numbers in a production run, thus raising the individual unit price.

Agree on the price, would likely not appeal to most people, but would appeal pretty well to the scale heli crowd that’s already used to that range of pricing. I have the Rotormast model and it’s some impressive engineering. Just a bit small, with high wing loading. Preflight and regular inspections are a must to minimize risk to such a pricey machine though. I’m personally not interested in a V-22 that doesn’t have cyclic control in hover. I also prefer to have the flexibility to fly at any given nacelle angle.

For something less expensive and accessible, I could see Flightline taking on the Bell X-22A. It’s certainly less well known, but the quadcopter design and blown wing configuration would be much easier to accomplish with typical flight controllers, and would likely perform well in conversion. The full scale was capable of very quick transitions from hover into forward flight.

[xviper]

Don't want to hijack this thread and add much about the Blitzworks V22; but I had my fictitious NATO Tiger schemed V22 out in the backyard for some hover test awhile back. I have to say that the little 50mm EDF tail fan screams like an ailing General Motors Power Steering pump...I almost want to wear ear muffs. Perhaps they could dial the dB back with a 12 blade fan or quieter motor.

Yes, that little EDF is a screamer. It's not so bad once you get it further away from you and of course, once it goes into airplane mode, it turns off. Changing the fan in anyway would involve quite a bit of other stuff needing to be changed since that would also change the amount of thrust it would provide. A motor with a different kv would be needed and perhaps even an alteration in flight controller programming. The rear powerplant in the Eflite version is fairly quiet but it's a 3-blade prop. To put one on the BH plane would necessitate a way bigger hole back there. I think they should have gone with a bigger fan for the BH one as that is one of the glitches when returning to hover mode from airplane mode or when trying to hover backwards too fast. The tail thrust is inadequate and the flight controller can't respond quickly enough to avoid a mishap.
This one will be mostly hovered around a large area with rare forays into airplane mode. It'll hover all day long without glitches (if you don't try to go backwards too much).

[AirHead]

Don't want to hijack this thread and add much about the Blitzworks V22; but I had my fictitious NATO Tiger schemed V22 out in the backyard for some hover test awhile back. I have to say that the little 50mm EDF tail fan screams like an ailing General Motors Power Steering pump...I almost want to wear ear muffs. Perhaps they could dial the dB back with a 12 blade fan or quieter motor.

[xviper]

The current Rotormast V-22 comes as an ARF "kit" and runs over $1700.00. By the time you've got all the stuff it needs to actually fly, it's a very expensive model - way too much for most people. Of the existing V-22's, the Eflite one was a bust and is discontinued. It was a neat little model but had too many glitches. The Banana Hobby V-22 may be the most successful but it too, has some glitches that can confound the average RC pilot (it even happened to RC Informer). I'm on my 3rd one because, I love the concept and they are affordable enough that I can try yet another one. Eventually, one can learn what things NOT to do when flying with it and get some good fun for the money spent.
Roban doesn't appear to be a low priced brand and if they took up the cause, I fear it will also be a very expensive model. The V-22 doesn't appeal to the masses and this would limit the numbers in a production run, thus raising the individual unit price.
The biggest problem is see with this sort of "project" for any manufacturer is NOT the actual plane itself, but in the flight controller. So far the program required to fly such a model has not been perfected. A tilt rotor is complicated and the ones that work (sort of) requires a tail fan of some kind to help hold up the butt end. The Rotormast one doesn't use a tail unit but then, the flight controller to make it fly right has to do a lot of stuff and as far as I can see, it's not perfect either and a crash is just as easy with it as it is with the Eflite and Banana versions. Personally, I'd rather pay less money when a crash is likely and imminent.
If anyone can resolve the issue of programming a flight controller (for a mass produced V-22), I think it's going to be Flex Innovations but whether they want to do such a project is doubtful. Their current FV-31 Cypher (quad fan VTOL) is the least glitchy of all these sorts of RC aircraft. I wouldn't say it's perfect or flawless but it's darn close. Plus, it sells for a reasonable price.