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  • tclaridge
    Instructor Pilot

    • Sep 2017
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    #2221
    Oh my, a BUFF that drops bombs! Make the bombs so you can put a little flour in each one and it pops open on impact with a big POOF! That would be cool. Four little EDF pods in a faux twin nacelle; way cool.

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    • Woodcock
      Old Returning Pilot

      • Apr 2018
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      #2222
      Originally posted by Valkpilot

      I'd rather have a Stratojet or BUFF before an airliner.
      But of course you would. : )

      Woody

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      • Valkpilot
        Member

        • Oct 2017
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        #2223
        Originally posted by Woodcock

        But of course you would. : )

        Woody
        If you want a jet airliner, the easiest to make would be the De havilland Comet, since like many large British aircraft, the engines are in the wings. Side note to Alpha: If you do the Comet, be sure to use oval windows, not square ones.:)

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        • Woodcock
          Old Returning Pilot

          • Apr 2018
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          #2224
          Originally posted by Valkpilot

          If you want a jet airliner, the easiest to make would be the De havilland Comet, since like many large British aircraft, the engines are in the wings. Side note to Alpha: If you do the Comet, be sure to use oval windows, not square ones.:)
          LMFAO,

          Woody

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          • Alpha
            Former Motion RC Staff

            • Feb 2015
            • 4110
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            #2225
            No way, I want to use square ones! It's a better view (until the catastrophic failure)
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            • Woodcock
              Old Returning Pilot

              • Apr 2018
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              #2226
              Originally posted by Alpha.MotionRC
              No way, I want to use square ones! It's a better view (until the catastrophic failure)
              Alpha, do you ever sleep mate?

              Woody

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              • fhhuber
                Senior Member

                • Aug 2015
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                #2227
                Actually the Comet failure was traced to punching through the rivets without drilling, while the designers specified drill and de-burr before riveting. Punching them through pre-cracked the skin and even oval windows would not have helped. It just would have taken a few more pressurization cycles.
                FF gliders and rubber power since 1966, CL 1970-1990, RC since 1975.

                current planes from 1/2 oz to 22 lbs

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                • Aros
                  Lead Adminstrator / Warbirdaholic

                  • May 2013
                  • 8202
                  • Astoria, OR
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                  #2228
                  Originally posted by Woodcock
                  Alpha, do you ever sleep mate?
                  Silly question. Didn't you know Alpha is our resident A.I.? ;)
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                  • Alpha
                    Former Motion RC Staff

                    • Feb 2015
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                    #2229
                    What is this "sleep" of which you speak?
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                    • RCjetdude
                      Higher & higher, straight up we'll climb

                      • May 2016
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                      #2230
                      Yep! He's a machine... LOL

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                      • rifleman_btx
                        me

                        • Dec 2016
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                        • West Point TX
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                        #2231
                        Plenty of sleep later, there are planes to produce!

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                        • Elbee
                          Be humble...be approachable...and be credible.

                          • Feb 2018
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                          • Wichita, Kansas
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                          #2232
                          Alpha, Are any of these 'new, fresh, and exciting' aircraft going to be available by Christmas? I want a new winter project. Best to both Alphas whichever reads this first, LB
                          "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
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                          • T-CAT
                            Senior Member

                            • Jan 2016
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                            #2233
                            As my grandmother says, “I will sleep when I die”.” Super hard worker she is.

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                            • Valkpilot
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                              • Oct 2017
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                              #2234
                              Originally posted by Aros.MotionRC

                              Silly question. Didn't you know Alpha is our resident A.I.? ;)
                              But does he dream of electric sheep or electric airplane?:Ligthbulb:

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                              • lmramos44
                                Jet Pilot

                                • Mar 2014
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                                #2235
                                Originally posted by Alpha.MotionRC

                                Unfortunately an airliner isn't next from our team, my friend. If you do get the FlyFly 737, reinforce the wing but do your best to build the rest of it as light as possible. Nose gear mount doesn't need to be overly reinforced, but I'd recommend something on the mains at least. Carbon sheet, something, and possibly new beads of Hysol depending on your choice of U/C setup. All in all, not a hard task. If you've ever built a CMP/Pro-Design, you'll have no problem. A gyro isn't necessary, but helps in a crosswind especially with the winglets and big vertical stab. Finally, consider fewer blades for more efficiency. You'll be trading higher whine for better flight time and performance. I flew one here in China a little while back. RIP.
                                Thank You, great when you can get this kind of info. Greatly appreciated.!

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                                • lmramos44
                                  Jet Pilot

                                  • Mar 2014
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                                  #2236
                                  Originally posted by Woodcock
                                  Ya know mate, has it ever occurred to you or your team, that maybe the reason no 737 has ever got any serious traction is because no one has made one that fly's worth a darn. I wont be purchasing or flying one of these FlyFly ones for sure. They look like sleds, IE heavy, and they don't look quite right to me. I would prefer a nice old school airliner, but I sincerely believe someone is going to hit with one of these in the not too distance future, (years not months). Making a nice 737 that looks, and fly's great would take a very special team. Are you hearing me mate? Who would like a model that doesn't fly well? The 737 air frame is going to be challenging to say the least. But ya made a nice flying F-4, I think if you ever chose to do it, your team would be up to the task for sure.

                                  If I was going to do one, I would go for a mid 70's vintage where they were running pure jets, not the fan jet verity. I just think they looked cooler, but that's just me. But the pure jet verity would use smaller fans, and could be a smaller plane.

                                  I completely understand why these airplanes do not appeal to front line dev's, and the risks associated with doing something like this, and respect it. I for one love most of the models you have made, and intend to own more of them in the future. But I'd still love to have a nice flying 737 someday. I'm not holding my breath though, LOL.

                                  My recommendation would be to pass on this one. That plane is a lot of money, just think of the Freewing jets ya can own for the price of that thing. Just a bit of friendly piece unsolicited advise.

                                  Best Regards
                                  Woody
                                  Thanks Woody. After hearing from you and Alpha. I did pass on the 1800$ pnp.

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                                  • Alpha
                                    Former Motion RC Staff

                                    • Feb 2015
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                                    #2237
                                    Originally posted by Elbee
                                    Alpha, Are any of these 'new, fresh, and exciting' aircraft going to be available by Christmas? I want a new winter project. Best to both Alphas whichever reads this first, LB
                                    Have we ever missed it?
                                    Live Q&A every Tuesday and Friday at 9pm EST on my Twitch Livestream

                                    Live chat with me and other RC Nuts on my Discord

                                    Camp my Instagram @Alpha.Makes

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                                    • Hardway
                                      Hobby Squawk Moderator

                                      • Mar 2017
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                                      • Willow Park, Texas
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                                      #2238
                                      Originally posted by Alpha.MotionRC

                                      Have we ever missed it?
                                      ;););) Thank you for all the hard work Bro!!!

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                                      • MichaelJ
                                        Member

                                        • Mar 2016
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                                        #2239
                                        Any one here ever see Ramy RC videos He does airliners all the time from scratch. Look him up on the tube and his videos will show you how to build one.

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                                        • Elbee
                                          Be humble...be approachable...and be credible.

                                          • Feb 2018
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                                          • Wichita, Kansas
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                                          #2240
                                          Originally posted by Alpha.MotionRC
                                          Have we ever missed it?
                                          LOLAlpha, Uncertain as this is our first Christmas together. That said, isn't the first Christmas, EDF? Best, LB
                                          "I am having an extraordinary ordinary life."
                                          ~Lucky B*st*rd~

                                          "Find satisfaction in the process rather than an outcome."
                                          ~Anonymous~

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