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Raymond quoted $198.60 shipping to Chicago. I can wait until March and free shipping anyway, because the weather here will suck until then, and we're going scuba diving in the "Keys" for the next entire month.
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I just ordered my 8S from Raymond yesterday. Out of the blue, he sent me an email saying the Eurofighter is now available for pre-order. This was right after 2 of my flying buddies here had just ordered the same. Maybe he decided to invite me to the party, too. For me, the fastest and shortest distance between 2 points is not necessarily a straight line. I've ordered 10 planes from Motion in the past 2 years because I just had to have them NOW. For some reason, this time, Raymond can get me one so much sooner.
I pay for shipping from either source.
Oh, and been reading the thread on RC Guppy and I am NOT hating on Motion just because I bought this from RCC. Besides, Motion has endorsed Raymond on several occasions in the past.
I buy from both depending on the conditions at the time.
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I shall run mine stock (at least at first). It will be interesting to compare them, come springtime.Originally posted by Alpha10 View PostCan't wait for this... One of the greatest deltas ever made! :)
Amazing improvements in scale detail and I think the new power system will help offset the added weight over the OG EPS model.
I was hoping for a little more battery bay width for 12s, but I'm up to the challenge of making something work. ;)
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Can't wait for this... One of the greatest deltas ever made! :)
Amazing improvements in scale detail and I think the new power system will help offset the added weight over the OG EPS model.
I was hoping for a little more battery bay width for 12s, but I'm up to the challenge of making something work. ;)
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I have the heavy nozzle on mineOriginally posted by kallend View Post
I put the FMS edf unit in my Gripen and it is quite acceptable now. For CG issues you can either add the VT unit, or replace the stock nozzles with my "heavy" nozzles (which look better too).
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4650359
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Mine was the newer tiger version. I sold it on to make space in the apartment and must say i regret it as the guy who bought it is my buddy and i have to watch him fly it now
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Yeah, the Mirage is pretty special especially with the newer fan. When it first came out it was kinda doggy to and I made my first one 8S. When better fans came out, numbers 2,3 and 4 stayed 6S...
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I was quite surprised with how difficult it was to get the proper CG on that plane. it flies well now but didn't tick the boxes I was expecting it to. still love it all the same. everyone tells me I was spoiled after flying the mirage. I must admit i agree now
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I put the FMS edf unit in my Gripen and it is quite acceptable now. For CG issues you can either add the VT unit, or replace the stock nozzles with my "heavy" nozzles (which look better too).Originally posted by BenOzzy94 View PostThanks Evan that's the same way I was leaning but wanted a bit of feedback, glad you have the same thought process. After flying the gripen I'm a little worried about it being sluggish not because of the wing loading more the low amount of thrust with little efflux into the fan. The gripen is fast at speed but doesn't like getting up on step so to speak.
The Gripen needs weight in the tail to achieve an acceptable CG position. This nozzle has accommodation for up to 60g of small lead weights, in addition to weighing over 60 grams itself. Print wide-side down, with supports.You will need to peel off the plastic outer of the stock nozzle, and trim back the foam to leave a stub 13mm long to which you glue the new nozzle. I suggest taping the join on the inside to ensure smooth airflow,
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I agree about the Gripen. If you compare the two's specs the Gripen is only 2350g w/o battery, it really shouldn't be as sluggish as it is. That said the Gripen is my favorite plane and I have three, a repainted JF/HET 8s one with TV, a box stock 6S no TV and a spare in the box. The Gripen really benefits from moving the balance back which is difficult as the battery can't be moved very far aft. I moved everything I could aft, use a light weight 575g 5000 battery and added quite a bit of lead in the tail cone. It also needs more canard throw than the servo geometry allows, I put in longer servo arms. My 8S with TV is simily weight challenged. Even though the TV adds aft weight the extra 2S battery adds counterweight to it. I have 3 D printed missiles on both that also add a slight bit of rearward weight.
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Thanks Evan that's the same way I was leaning but wanted a bit of feedback, glad you have the same thought process. After flying the gripen I'm a little worried about it being sluggish not because of the wing loading more the low amount of thrust with little efflux into the fan. The gripen is fast at speed but doesn't like getting up on step so to speak.
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As you say no one knows. The fans are new and though the 8S has been out a little while the 6S hasn't. I ordered the 6 but here's why. The numbers for the fan are good so I'm interested in seeing how it performs. The 6 and 8 both come with a 8S Hobbywing ESC so if I later drop in a 8S fan I don't need to get a 8S ESC. The all up with battery should be right at 4kg and with the wing area this has it should be a good flying plane, not heavy or sluggish.
But if I don't like it on 6S I have two JetFan/ HET 8S set ups sitting in a drawer and all the 8S batteries need just in case.
I really waffled between all three versions as I also have a spare Hobbywing 8S ESC in the drawer so I could have gone kit+ or just said heck with it and gone the 8S version. Two reasons I didn't, first the ESC as noted and second the 8S fan has a metal (heavier) shroud and the 6S is plastic or if I drop in the JF/HET it's carbon fiber. I almost always buy planes with a fan as it smarter. If I don't want the power system I can sell it on here for much more than the price difference to a kit+.
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So. its a no brainer I'm definitely getting one of these, I'll likely wait until they're in stock as I don't have the will power to wait once I've hit the buy button when things are available let alone a preorder.
As such I imagine when my time comes to buy this question will have likely been answered but for now I'm interested to see what others think.
so here goes the question being 6S or 8S? obviously 8S gives her more power but will likely be heavier,
Will she be better setup for high speed with low static thrust or visa versa?
I wonder will the 6S variant have a high enough thrust to weight ratio to possibly recover post stall better than the 8S with the added weight?
(I know weights and thrust figures are all speculative at present but just curious to see your opinions and your reasoning too)
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You still have a V2 Euro? Wow! I've had 2, maybe 3 (can't remember as it's been years ago) and my last one is now up for sale from the guy I sold it to. One of my other flying buddies was about to buy it until this one got announced. Now 3 of us have ordered this new one.Originally posted by kallend View Post
I'm all in favor of someone else working out the bugs.
I still have my V2 should we get an unseasonably warm winter in Chicago.
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I'm all in favor of someone else working out the bugs.Originally posted by xviper View PostWe can only hope to see more from the one or two people who have them already for testing and preview purposes. Beyond that, we likely won't see any until those fellas in Taiwan or Korea or SE mainland China as they'll get their private ones about end of January (probably just before Chinese New Year - Jan. 22). They are supposedly available for sale just before mid-Jan in Hong Kong. Remember those first videos of the Mig29 being crashed before the rest of world could even get them? Probably those guys.
I still have my V2 should we get an unseasonably warm winter in Chicago.
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We can only hope to see more from the one or two people who have them already for testing and preview purposes. Beyond that, we likely won't see any until those fellas in Taiwan or Korea or SE mainland China as they'll get their private ones about end of January (probably just before Chinese New Year - Jan. 22). They are supposedly available for sale just before mid-Jan in Hong Kong. Remember those first videos of the Mig29 being crashed before the rest of world could even get them? Probably those guys.Originally posted by MeyerVW View PostHope to see more news and videos soon on the aircraft.
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They never updated that part of the computer generated info. It's based on the plane actually being in stock, which of course, it isn't.Originally posted by kallend View PostJust ordered, and it says:
Shipping method
Basic Economy (Estimated Delivery: Fri, Dec 23)
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