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  • Thanks Elbee! :)

    Granted I've been flying for a long time but I get the feeling that the Eurofighter makes it particularly easy to shine and look good in the air. This bird is truly special!

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    • Some more Eurofun! ^^

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          • I would like to congratulate Hugh Wiedman!

            Why, you might ponder?

            His Freewing Eurofighter is in the latest AMA Magazine, Focal Point Section and she's a Beauty.

            Nicely done, Hugh, as per your usual.

            Best, Steve
            I solemnly swear to "over-celebrate" the smallest of victories.
            ~Lucky B*st*rd~

            You'll never be good at something unless you're willing to suck at it first.
            ~Anonymous~

            AMA#116446

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            • Originally posted by Elbee View Post
              I would like to congratulate Hugh Wiedman!

              Why, you might ponder?

              His Freewing Eurofighter is in the latest AMA Magazine, Focal Point Section and she's a Beauty.

              Nicely done, Hugh, as per your usual.

              Best, Steve
              Thanks Steve, Never been shy about a little self promotion! There might be a certain F4 Jolly Rodgers pop up in the near future as well.
              Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
              Hangar: FL/FW: Mig 29 "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet, F16 Wild Weasel, F4 Phantom & Blue Angel, 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, Olive B-24, Stinger 90, Red Avanti. Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 60" Extra 300 V2, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, MXS Green, & Demonstrator. FMS-1700mm P-51, Red Bull Corsair. E-Flite-70mm twin SU-30, Beast Bi-Plane 60", P2 Bi-Plane, P-51.

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              • Hugh Wiedman, you earned it, Wildman. Best, LB
                I solemnly swear to "over-celebrate" the smallest of victories.
                ~Lucky B*st*rd~

                You'll never be good at something unless you're willing to suck at it first.
                ~Anonymous~

                AMA#116446

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                • So... I've finally found some time to write down my Eurofighter settings as they are currently, although I want to change some things, but many have repeatedly asked me to post them as they are now since they like the way it's flying at the moment, so for what it's worth, here they go:

                  My Eurofighter is the 8S version, with the pilot figure removed, one 4S pack sitting under the airbrake, an extra 2S Li-Po and 8-15A Turnigy UBEC to feed the electronics, ribbon wires and MCB removed and equipped with a Jeti Rex12A stabilized receiver, a MUI200 current sensor and a Freewing V2 LED controller plus an additional green LED for the HUD mockup.

                  Weight:
                  Airframe with wing pylons: 3200g (roughly)
                  8S Li-Po: 806g (2x HRB 4S 4200mAh 60C)
                  2S Li-Po: 46g (To power electronics)
                  2x Bombs: 42g (21g each)
                  2x ASRAAM: 12g (6g each)
                  2x EFTs: 66g (33g each)
                  Tail ballast: 20g (I just installed it, haven't used it until now)

                  TOTAL WEIGHT
                  4052g (only pylons attached)
                  4106g (+2x bombs & 2x ASRAAMs)
                  4172g (+2 EFTs)

                  CG:
                  Measured with respect to wing molded factory marks, landing gear up, RETRACTED.
                  -20mm (only wing rails)
                  -24mm (w/ ASRAAM and bombs on outer pylons)
                  -27mm (w/ EFTs in addition to all the previous)
                  CG note: My elevons currently have 2mm pitch-up trim, so my recommendation is to actually use further rearward CG setup to get rid of the trim. I don't recommend trimming it out with canards. My guess is that 30-35mm should be the sweet spot for most, 40mm and further getting very close to neutral territory so only recommended for people wanting absolute best aerobatic performance, preferably with a proper pitch-gyro installation on canards at least, or canards + elevons.
                  Another note: Remember that the CG setting is weight sensitive. A same CG position gives a different degree of stability depending on the model's take-off weight, so you should bear in mind that if you are flying heavier than me, then the same CG position (while within the stable margin) will yield a nose heavier aircraft, and a lighter build will yield a tail heavier setup.
                  Also mind that my CG measuring is not really exact, so allow margin for error of a few millimeters, take this as an orientative value +/- 2 or 3mm.

                  Linkage settings:
                  Elevons and rudders: pushrods attached on the outermost hole on both the servo arm and the horn ends.
                  Canards' pushrod attached on the SECOND outermost hole on the servo arm for a slightly increased control surface deflection.

                  Mechanical offsets
                  Left Elevon: +2mm (pitch up) measured on the trailing edge, innermost chord
                  Right Elevon: +2mm (pitch up) measured on the trailing edge, innermost chord
                  Canards: -6mm (pitch DOWN) measured on the leading edge against the nose fuselage factory marking for 'neutral'
                  Rudder: Centered

                  RATES:
                  (High / Mid / Low)*
                  Elevons (roll) 125/100/60
                  Elevons (pitch) 125/100/70
                  RUD (yaw) 100/70/50
                  Canards (pitch) 100/100/80

                  EXPO:
                  (High / Mid / Low)*
                  Elevons (roll) 75/70/70
                  Elevons (pitch) 75/70/70
                  RUD (yaw) 70/70/50
                  Canards (pitch) 60/75/60

                  *Note: I fly always on high rates, so the first value is the only one that really matters IMO, but if you feel paranoid about twitchiness, you also have my mids and lows.

                  Physical Throws:
                  (High / Mid / Low rates, measured in mm, using the same references as used for the offsets)

                  Left Elevon (Pitch up/down) +47/-39 +37/-30 +26/-20
                  Right Elevon (Pitch up/down) +47 -39 +37/-30 +26/-20
                  Left Elevon (Roll left/right) +47/-39 +37/-30 +23/-18
                  Right Elevon (Roll left/right) -39/+47 -30/+37 -18/+23
                  Canards (Pitch up/down) +25/-50 +25/-50 +18/-42
                  Rudder (Yaw left/right) -41/+46 -34/+40 -26/+30

                  Servo setup:
                  Adjusted channel endpoints on the transmitter to achieve the full available throw, but limiting deadbands at the end of the servo travel.
                  The values obtained changes from servo to servo but most typically values are 115 -125 - 150%, depending on the servo.

                  Gear Door Sequencer:
                  (For Jeti users)
                  Landing Gear: 100% (0s) / 100% (3,25s) / -100% (3,5s)
                  Front Door: -125% (0s) / 125% (2s) / 125% (6s)

                  Gyro settings:
                  (For Jeti Rex-Assist receiver users, or as rough orientation for other brands)

                  Airplane settings:
                  Gain/Heading Hold Gain**
                  Ail 22 / 0
                  Ele 30 / 15
                  Rud 22 / 5
                  **I don't use HH, but I have it set up switchable to experiment. In any case, roll HH is always off, gain set to 0, to prevent severe uncontrolled adverse yaw events such as gyro inducing spins while flying high alpha.

                  Stabilization settings:
                  M1: Manual (Off)
                  M2: Normal (Damping)
                  M3: Heading Hold
                  Fail/Safe: Intelligent Stabilized (Active in M1)

                  Acro Mode Settings:
                  Max roll rate: 320º/s
                  Max pitch rate: 320º/s
                  Max yaw rate: 280º/s

                  Stick Priority: 100% on all axis
                  Ouput period: 17,5ms (57Hz)
                  Controller PIDs: (Default values)
                  LPF: 40Hz
                  PID-Derivative LPF: 20Hz

                  Roll MASTER Gain: About 30-50%***
                  Pitch/Yaw MASTER Gain: About 50-80%***
                  ***I have separate knobs to control roll master gain separate from pitch/yaw master gains, as the roll is the most sensitive axis and most prone to produce oscillations. I move my masters all the time, so I can't provide a fixed value. 20-30% for roll and 75% for pitch/yaw should be good though.​

                  At the moment, my gyro gains for pitch on canards and elevons are the same, because the Jeti receiver doesn't allow to split them, sadly. This is not ideal, I'd rather have a higher gain set up on the canards. I guess I'll eventually install a stand alone gyro for the canards, but for the moment I'm experimenting with a single gyro setup, and picky though I may be about it, guess it's perfectly fine for 99% of users anyway so... that's that!

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                  • Originally posted by Airguardian View Post
                    So... I've finally found some time to write down my Eurofighter settings as they are currently, although I want to change some things, but many have repeatedly asked me to post them as they are now since they like the way it's flying at the moment, so for what it's worth, here they go:
                    Thank you for taking the time and effort to share this! I will consider it carefully as I set mine up...

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