Xfly Models B1B Bomber 70mm

[Gilatrout]

As a Motion RC employee for a decade now I really have to hold my tongue here but I will say I am thrilled to see a Bone finally make it to the market, especially what looks to be a scale, quality model. I have waited years for a B-1 to come to fruition. I just wish Freewing would have made it first, but that's how it goes sometimes. Hey Freewing, can ya do us a solid and come out with a Concorde? <Nudge>

Some of the builders at AEF looked at the nacelles and were talking that they could kitbash them in some custom Concorde build.

[ridgerunner]

He's posting those vids on Facebook and the Guppy doesn't allow linking from FB. Can't find them and I'm not going for an Easter egg hunt.

Here it is...

[Elbee]

I know what you mean but I just get so pissed sometimes. I belong to alot of forums for hobby stuff and I say very little, mostly I speak to criticize or prop up a product based on my own experience and will give my 2 cents if someone asks. Out of the years Ive been doing hobbies and the many different forums its always the same folks who want to play god or know it all stepping on toes in the process. I bite my tongue for the most part but sometimes I just got to YELL!!!!!funny THING AT LEAST IN THE RC HELI WORLD!!! The know it all's cant fly worth a poop.

DB, I understand and I replied to your PM.

So, as I wrote to ALL and evidently must do so again,

I have shut down this Topic before, so if it's the subject that is so volatile, or the manufacturers that are so volatile, or the distributing companies that are so volatile,

I do not give a ______. Enough guys with the name-calling. Nope can't do it, ever. No bad emojis either.

Comment good or bad, just leave out the personal stuff.

Respectfully, LB

[xviper]

He's posting those vids on Facebook and the Guppy doesn't allow linking from FB. Can't find them and I'm not going for an Easter egg hunt.

[Evan D]

Twice he banked to about a 45. One roll. All with extended wings… He did a couple laps with wings retracted. And yes a nice landing. Overall a good flight and video.

[SanExup]

Justwingit posted another video on YouTube with Jeremy Solt on the sticks I believe. Just what I've been wanting to see, wings swept, hard banking turn with wings out, minor aerobatics, and a nice close up landing. It looks awesome!

I'll probably still hold my money and will probably have to wait in line a long time to get one. But it looks promising so far.

[dbirds2]

dbirds2, acknowledged and agreed. You did not need to use the term "keyboard hero's" to make your point. You're pushing buttons which diminishes a well written comment. Respectfully, LB

I know what you mean but I just get so pissed sometimes. I belong to alot of forums for hobby stuff and I say very little, mostly I speak to criticize or prop up a product based on my own experience and will give my 2 cents if someone asks. Out of the years Ive been doing hobbies and the many different forums its always the same folks who want to play god or know it all stepping on toes in the process. I bite my tongue for the most part but sometimes I just got to YELL!!!!!funny THING AT LEAST IN THE RC HELI WORLD!!! The know it all's cant fly worth a poop.

[Elbee]

dbirds2, acknowledged and agreed. You did not need to use the term "keyboard hero's" to make your point. You're pushing buttons which diminishes a well written comment. Respectfully, LB

[dbirds2]

Most people have not a clue to how business and the reality of business operates in a evolving landscape. I don't think most keyboard hero's know how much logistics it takes to get these products built, boxed and shipped on any timeline that's under 1 years time. Ive been to china 3 times and Vietnam once for hobby support and guidance for some very large rc brands. Its impressive to say the least and any marketer or logistics personell rather new or 10 years experienced will run into problems every time due to the constant changing environment.

[xviper]

Last few posts. All very fair assessments and opinions. I still want one but not in a hurry. I'll let the Guinea pigs with deep pockets and greatest need/want rush in. To reiterate ............ nothing against BH regardless of past sketchy history. Their "boys" marketing on the other hand .........................

[Skosh25]

As someone with an overpriced MBA and extensive sales and marketing experience in aerospace, my opinion (not that anyone asked for it), is BH hasn’t done a good job controlling the narrative here. They rushed to throw a go to market strategy together as a response to the leaks before the product or marketing and comms were finalized.

There are always leaks out of China on the next iPhone release, but Apple doesn’t rush it to market as a result.

If it were me I would have stuck to whatever release schedule was planned so the product could be finalized and properly represented and introduced to the market. It’s been pretty clear in the community that preorders aren’t ideal. I preordered because I wanted to secure my spot in the first shipment and I could cancel my order and receive a full refund if I saw anything I didn’t like.

The best release campaign I’ve seen in this hobby so far was what Motion did with the Freewing B-2.

If anyone affiliated with BH would like help with the next release, I’m happy to sign an NDA and provide support for free.

[SanExup]

It's hard to tell just from one short video of what resembled three maiden flights, but a few things looked promising. A few boxes were ticked in my 'consumer evaluation over the internet with limited video' chart. 1. I'm sure the wind helped but the takeoff rolls were short enough. They weren't struggling to get into the air. 2. The planes flew and with a little variation in speed, meaning not just straight high speed passes, though it would be nice to see a couple of those as well. 3. They didn't stall and spin in with somewhat slower flight and drag from the gear being down. 4. They didn't exude horrible behavior with not so perfect landings, but the not perfect landing envelope wasn't fully explored, so who knows yet.

I'm still interested, maybe more interested! And I'm still waiting to lay my money down!

I want to see it fly more. The solt videos are well produced (great imagery and thematic music, similar to the B2 release) and make it look awesome but are snippets. And 410 productions does have a brief snippet of it flying with the wings swept. But again a full skilled hands flight video is lacking. I am curious where the usual Xfly generated youtube videos are. They typically show a full flight and somewhat the capabilities. I'm eager to see more, and I'm not just shooting it down. People can hype the reputation of a company all they want, and call it blasphemy and hypocrisy when it's questioned all they want, truth is truth, and this fool and his money are not easily convinced by influence. That's always my point. Being critical is necessary. I want to see the unfiltered proof!

(The fan glam and celebrity aspect of youtube, or the assumed expertise derived from just having a camera, uploading videos, or being in a video resembling a knowledgeable person or cool guy, is flat absurd.)

[Skosh25]

There are much better solo full flight videos on FB, albeit unedited and taken with a phone presumably by Jeremy’s son based on the commentary. Greaser landings, full speed sweep passes and swept back aileron rolls. Looks like they were dealing with a fair bit of wind during at least a portion of the event. Hopefully they will upload these to YT for those not on FB

[Evan D]

There's a video over on RCG. At AZ jets, very windy. The Banana Hobby Team pilots have 3 B-1s there and this was their first flight. The did a few passes without raising the gear or sweeping the wings. Landings were bumpy and one didn't taxi back. It did not look like they had active gyros. Also appeared one had a main gear issue. There was a very fast glimpse in the battery compartment before the battery hatch was quickly closed. Hopefully more video will be posted today.

[kallend]

I love hypocrisy that some folks display daily. I like banana hobby and their planes. never had a issue

When did it become hypocrisy to expect people to follow the rules of a forum they choose to belong to? Please explain.

[Elbee]

Copy.

[rifleman_btx]

If I get one of these, it won't be til mid summer or maybe fall. I'm not in any hurry, by then I can see where improvements need to be taken for grass field operations. I imagine it'll be about like the freewing f14 in that respect. But that will be my plan for acquisition.

[Daryl]

I love hypocrisy that some folks display daily. I like banana hobby and their planes. never had a issue

Lol

[dbirds2]

You'd think that Banana would cough up 5 bucks for their "influencers" to do their "job" better.

I love hypocrisy that some folks display daily. I like banana hobby and their planes. never had a issue

[dbirds2]

My new years resolution was to be less of an internet thug. Really... I am trying not to post what I really think.


"Between you and kallend (and several others), you've got the Banana boys really tweaked."


Did you see the post a person made that contacted Bitgo about if they would carry it and got a resounding "NO". I bet they aren't happy with the politics.

ya you should work on it. you and your buddy like to jump posts and play warrior.. I love hypocrites...... banana hobby is a great place to shop. ONe of my favorites.