Xfly Models B1B Bomber 70mm

[Gilatrout]

[xviper]

So far, "how it flies" is based on a couple of pre-production test models sent to the two guys in Arizona. Keeping mind that those guys are expert RC pilots and like RC Informer, can make a perforated manhole cover "fly". We also don't know and likely will never be told honestly what kinds of tweaks these two test models needed to make them do what is shown in those videos. We won't know know how it flies until privateers get their hands on production models - maybe some bootleg models that mysteriously appear at FNRC, etc, hopefully before July. With the announced price, weight and size of this thing, my interest has gone from extreme to tepid. It didn't go below tepid only because of the thrust reverse thing. A big, heavy airplane like this needs reverse for our shorter runways. That tall, spindly nose gear doesn't look like it could take much of a hit running into the weeds at the end. My friend with the Xfly Bizjet sheared his nose gear doing just that. My thrust reverse on the FW PJ prevented it from happening.
We're made to think that Banana has the exclusive on this plane. I call BS on that one. Any distributor/seller that carries XFly won't stand for that for long. Aside from any "understanding" of first dibs for a month or two, this thing will show up in all the places that sell Xfly. If not, Xfly will get dumped by those sellers and XF will see their profitability disappear. I don't think XF is that stupid. Banana alone, will not be able to sell all the B1s that Xfly plan to and need to produce to make it all worth while. Don't forget how much that mold cost, not to mention the years of R&D.

[SanExup]

My initial excitement has turned into being more excited to see what other people think and how it flies, it looks great. But I think I will hold off. The price is more but similar to other planes that I've wanted for a while. The pricing trend has me considering value more and more these days. And I don't like to pre-order. Yet I did pre-order a Eurofighter. Go figure. My wife does say that I'm full of contradictions when I want to be. I'd argue they're selective priorities. The B1 looks cool but i.have other priorities. Especially when it's being offered in a reverse lay-away situation.

[Evan D]

Sorry, too many red flags with BH. If I was buying any Xfly it’d be through Bitgo.

[xviper]

There were discussions about how BH charges back with the T7A. Ralph kept saying BH doesn’t charge but most had holds on their CC or PayPal, some as long as a week.

That's a new low. Having a hold still puts your CC as a "pending" charge and reduces your available credit limit. They may not get your money, but your money is still tied up.
I believe they are fearful of cancellations if nobody pays. It's a pricey foam airplane. A person is far less apt to cancel if their money is already gone.

[Evan D]

There were discussions about how BH charges back with the T7A. Ralph kept saying BH doesn’t charge but most had holds on their CC or PayPal, some as long as a week.

[xviper]

In one spot , under the preorder button, it says it won't be charged but in the model description it says it will. Usual BH idiocy.

You don't want Ralph to hear you.

Preordered! I figured the price was going to be around there so I was prepared mentally for it, and this one is the jet I have been waiting for to hit the market almost as long and as much as the Concorde. Gotta have the BONE!! Gonna be a long wait to July...

Makes me nervous dealing with BH, really wish it was us.

Good for you, Aros. I like a man who knows what he wants and goes for it. When you checked out, were you charged right away?
If I didn't have such a lack of space, I may have done the same thing myself - maybe! However, at this price point, I'm willing to be more patient - how patient, I'm not sure.
In truth, you should not worry about Banana. As much as I detest their marketing guy and his poor PR skills, the actual company sales practices are on solid ground. I've bought 3 models from them in the past few years and so far, all have been good.
I also wish it was Motion/Freewing and we have no idea what they've got in the "cooker" right now.................... A Vulcan? Their own B1? A new, jazzed up F-14? F-111? Tornado? Harrier?

[Aros]

Preordered! I figured the price was going to be around there so I was prepared mentally for it, and this one is the jet I have been waiting for to hit the market almost as long and as much as the Concorde. Gotta have the BONE!! Gonna be a long wait to July...

Makes me nervous dealing with BH, really wish it was us.

[Evan D]

In one spot , under the preorder button, it says it won't be charged but in the model description it says it will. Usual BH idiocy.

[xviper]

$700.00 US. And pay in full at pre-order check out. They are out of their ever-loving minds. Do they think they're selling an HSD product? I may NOT have to have one.

[cg7060]

The main gear retract mechanisms are really impressive. I love that kind of detail.

[xviper]

Edits added to Post #39. That post was for the B-58 and not the B1-B. Confusion cleared, now.

-GG

I kinda thought that's what you were referring to but I read it again and decided maybe not.

[GliderGuy]

Edits added to Post #39. That post was for the B-58 and not the B1-B. Confusion cleared, now.

-GG

[xviper]

My untrained eye sees the main gear being an engineering challenge. I’d love a B-58, too.

But the long main struts with only a tiny fuselage area to store the trucks in. To me, this looks like a tough problem to solve.

-GG

The video I embedded in post #20 shows a close up of the main gear as it deploys. In order to make a wider stance (as in "track" in cars), the main gears slides a little outboard when deploying. I think that's the neatest "new" thing on this plane so far. They also needed the plane to sit on longer legs to get the engine nacelles a bit further off the ground due to them being slung under the wing like that. Even still, I see crap and debris getting sucked up quite easily, so yes, the grass guys will have a complaint about that alone.

[Evan D]

Agree and then people would complain flying off grass.

[GliderGuy]

Edited for clarity:

***This post is for the B-58 Hustler.***

My untrained eye sees the main gear being an engineering challenge. I’d love a B-58, too.

But the long main struts with only a tiny fuselage area to store the trucks in. To me, this looks like a tough problem to solve.

-GG

[Elbee]

Evan D rifleman_btx check out the rcgeek's ewetoob channel as he is starting on a build of a fairly large (4 x 70mm Fans?) B-58 for scale competition. Should be an interesting build, I think. Best, LB

[rifleman_btx]

OK, I hear blaah blah blah, hustler....

Now that would be a fun one!

[Evan D]

OK, I hear blaah blah blah, hustler....

[Bearcat]

Make up your mind. What do you want, really really want?

You also said "YF-23 or SR-71 or maybe a U2 which I miss since Phase 3 is defunct. I STILL WANT AN XB-70 as mine is getting old..".

And "now if we can get a B-58 and XB70 that would awesome and a U2... :-) A5 Vigilante would be good.".



So you really want the XB-70? I could go for a B-58. Four of the new HP 64mm fans would be awesome.

The hint is there- all would be logical choices but the XB-70 would be the best in my opinion. Somebody already has the YF-23 which is not bad and they just updates the foam type on the SR-71 so A B-58 and XB-70 would be awesome...so would the F-111 and A5