Freewing 90mm F-16 - Thoughts anyone?

[Alpha10]

Hey all, first post here at hobbysquak. Since I've only found limited info on this 90mm F-16 flying on a delta wing setup, here is a video of me getting to test out my delta configuration. I've actually got some messages from some people regarding my setup(on rcgroups and youtube). Honestly, using tailerons and flaps for approach makes this jet on par with the FW F-15 on landings, IMO. Minimal ballooning if any at all. This we me flying at a new field with a nice big 600ft runway. I'm used to trying to land her on a 250ft runway at my home station club. This is a 6s outrunner with jp brakes as well. Soon to be 8s :)

Nice! Welcome to the Squak!


Flying with tailerons and flaps is a great setup for this one... I ran about 24-26% up EL with my flaps and it made for VERY scale and throttle only landings. (No elevator needed)

It DID make the roll a little less snappy, even with high rates, but not enough to complain about. :)

[Alpha]

HI Kiefff, welcome to Hobby Squawk! Nice video you have there, thanks for posting it. 600 feet of runway is nice, too! Do you have any elevator mixing with your flaperon setup? It seems to need a touch of up to lock into a stable flare on final up to touchdown.

[Kiefff]

Hey all, first post here at hobbysquak. Since I've only found limited info on this 90mm F-16 flying on a delta wing setup, here is a video of me getting to test out my delta configuration. I've actually got some messages from some people regarding my setup(on rcgroups and youtube). Honestly, using tailerons and flaps for approach makes this jet on par with the FW F-15 on landings, IMO. Minimal ballooning if any at all. This we me flying at a new field with a nice big 600ft runway. I'm used to trying to land her on a 250ft runway at my home station club. This is a 6s outrunner with jp brakes as well. Soon to be 8s :)

[Alpha10]

Just put 2 flights on the F-16 with the FMS fan, and it is a great improvement! Lighter, more powerful, and I am getting longer flight times. Landed at 3:20 with 40% left in my Revo Gopack 5800. Very satisfied as the vertical has definitely improved over stock. Just need to relocate the battery strap backward a bit now so I can scoot back the battery more, since both flights were still noseheavy.

Sweet! I'm glad you took my advice man! Happy to hear it! : )

It's a great option and a killer value! Super lightweight too! Their 80mm is incredible at only 300g... SMOKES the FW 1820kv setup. ; )

[F106DeltaDart]

A quick video I threw together with some air to air test footage from a buddy's Phantom 3 while I was flying the F-16:

[F106DeltaDart]

Just put 2 flights on the F-16 with the FMS fan, and it is a great improvement! Lighter, more powerful, and I am getting longer flight times. Landed at 3:20 with 40% left in my Revo Gopack 5800. Very satisfied as the vertical has definitely improved over stock. Just need to relocate the battery strap backward a bit now so I can scoot back the battery more, since both flights were still noseheavy.

[gooniac33]

I don't think the T-45 and F-16 are underpowered. They fly differently than lighter ships. I guess I am biased as I grew up flying heavily wing loaded types. Never had a park flyer of any kind.
Anyway, I will acquire a 90mm F-16 hopefully later in the year. The goal is to repaint it. My first F-16 was the Yellow Aircraft DF back in 1994. All vipers fly good and look good too. But they look better in camo.

Gooniac I love your videos man. Also URRL (buddy). Good stuff. Keem em coming.

100% agreed about those birds.... And you are welcome!! When the weather clears there will be more!!

[seaviper]

I don't think the T-45 and F-16 are underpowered. They fly differently than lighter ships. I guess I am biased as I grew up flying heavily wing loaded types. Never had a park flyer of any kind.
Anyway, I will acquire a 90mm F-16 hopefully later in the year. The goal is to repaint it. My first F-16 was the Yellow Aircraft DF back in 1994. All vipers fly good and look good too. But they look better in camo.

Gooniac I love your videos man. Also URRL (buddy). Good stuff. Keem em coming.

[Alpha10]

Just ordered the FMS unit, looking forward to seeing the performance! I am hoping to get a bit closer to the vertical performance of the full scale. Thanks again for the tip Alpha10! I was able to cancel my order of the inrunner just before it shipped, and redirected the funds to this one :).

NICE man! I'm glad to hear it! LMK how you like it! :)

[gooniac33]

Within the next couple weeks I will be getting an F-16 Thunderbird and adding my 4082 1600kv inrunner unit. Will do that after my trip to hawaii..... WOOO HOOOOOOOO!

[F106DeltaDart]

Just ordered the FMS unit, looking forward to seeing the performance! I am hoping to get a bit closer to the vertical performance of the full scale. Thanks again for the tip Alpha10! I was able to cancel my order of the inrunner just before it shipped, and redirected the funds to this one :).

[Alpha10]

Thanks for the advice, just looked at it and almost regretting buying the inrunner now.. I paid a very similar price for it. I noticed the background of the promo shots for it has an F-35B.. I really hope that's a hint at whats next!

You bet! Me too! :)

Honestly, I'd sell the 1680 inrunner for a little profit and jump on a $70-$75 FMS unit without hesitation.

It's a win win man... Cheaper, lighter, more flight time, and just as powerful with a better power to weight ratio that the F-16 drastically needs.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it's literally close to half the weight.

I'm running it in a couple planes and it REALLY moves my lightweight Venom well... 135mph~

Cheers!

[F106DeltaDart]

Nice! You'll pick up a little vertical, but it's going to cost you a bit of flight time and the weight doesn't exactly help the F-16s situation. : /

I'd recommend the FMS 1900kv 12 blader as it weighs only 336g and puts out 3.5kg... Much lighter and just as powerful. :)

Thanks for the advice, just looked at it and almost regretting buying the inrunner now.. I paid a very similar price for it. I noticed the background of the promo shots for it has an F-35B.. I really hope that's a hint at whats next!

[Alpha10]

Just picked up a pretty well priced inrunner over on RCG, looking forward to seeing what the performance difference is with it installed.

Nice! You'll pick up a little vertical, but it's going to cost you a bit of flight time and the weight doesn't exactly help the F-16s situation. : /

I'd recommend the FMS 1900kv 12 blader as it weighs only 336g and puts out 3.5kg... Much lighter and just as powerful. :)

[F106DeltaDart]

Just picked up a pretty well priced inrunner over on RCG, looking forward to seeing what the performance difference is with it installed.

[Alpha10]

Well, X-32 had a max airspeed of 1.6 Mach versus 1.5 Mach for the X-35. But, the X-35 had a much longer range (almost double) for most missions. And the bigger issue was that the X-32 had a last minute design change in wing/tail configs, but the prototype was already built with the delta wing config. So, the aircraft that was being tested wasn't even the same config as what was planned for the final production model. The photo on the ground is a mockup of the production version, versus the one in flight. In addition, it was heavier than planned, and all of the gear doors had to be removed in order to accomplish a hover. But, that's just I'm also a bit baised since I know several people who were on the X-35 team. No matter who won, I doubt it would have been a less challenging road to development for either company, it's an extremely demanding RFP to meet.

And Seaviper, you will love the F-16, it does not disappoint! Looks amazing in the air and the ground, easily one of the most detailed jets that Freewing has built to date.

It's VERY nice to look at :)

[F106DeltaDart]

Well, X-32 had a max airspeed of 1.6 Mach versus 1.5 Mach for the X-35. But, the X-35 had a much longer range (almost double) for most missions. And the bigger issue was that the X-32 had a last minute design change in wing/tail configs, but the prototype was already built with the delta wing config. So, the aircraft that was being tested wasn't even the same config as what was planned for the final production model. The photo on the ground is a mockup of the production version, versus the one in flight. In addition, it was heavier than planned, and all of the gear doors had to be removed in order to accomplish a hover. But, that's just I'm also a bit baised since I know several people who were on the X-35 team. No matter who won, I doubt it would have been a less challenging road to development for either company, it's an extremely demanding RFP to meet.

And Seaviper, you will love the F-16, it does not disappoint! Looks amazing in the air and the ground, easily one of the most detailed jets that Freewing has built to date.

[seaviper]

The X-32 was stealthier, faster, and more capable than the X-35.

But to get back on subject...I have a 90mm F-16 in the wishlist for later in the year.

[AZFlyer]

The X-32 was pretty ugly. Rumor has it that's one of the main reasons it lost out to the X-35. It has to look like a fighter plane.

Gooniac33....love the pic of the T-45 and F-15. Very nice!

[Alpha10]

Have you ever seen the X-32? ;)

STILL not as ugly as the MIG21 lol