Official Freewing 70mm Twin Me 262 Thread

[xviper]

Greetings everyone! Just signed up. I'm a tank guy, but have a strong interest in the Me 262. Had the pleasure to see a replica fly recently at the WWII Weekend in Reading, PA. So here is my question. I would like to take the plunge on the Freewing 262. Looks like a real beauty, but am I going to be in over my head as a first time flyer? Fire away! I will appreciate any and all input.

IMO, yes, this might just be a little too big of a leap. This 262 is not a beginner plane. It has quirks that are best dealt with by someone who has a bit of RC stick time on airplanes. In fact, most EDFs can be a bit of a handful for the novice pilot. They generally tend to be quite fast and landing requires a skill set that is somewhat different than landing a prop plane. Get a more sedate prop plane to learn the basics and develop some "muscle memory" in your fingers. Your most basic would be a tricycle gear high wing trainer. If you think you are a quick learner, then perhaps another trike gear low wing plane like a T-28 will help to get you in shape for something like a 262. These are slower, giving you time to react to those "weird", uncomfortable moments. They are also easier to repair when you crash. The initial investment is also much lower than a 262. Maybe even try flying a sim for a while. You can crash and just reset.

[RIOGRANDE717]

Greetings everyone! Just signed up. I'm a tank guy, but have a strong interest in the Me 262. Had the pleasure to see a replica fly recently at the WWII Weekend in Reading, PA. So here is my question. I would like to take the plunge on the Freewing 262. Looks like a real beauty, but am I going to be in over my head as a first time flyer? Fire away! I will appreciate any and all input.

[Icarus the 2nd]

Another Freewing ME-262 vid

[xviper]

Back in the day you had to. I would if the BEC was a linear but with switching ones most are okay Y'd.

This is a great addendum to make things even more clear.

[Evan D]

Back in the day you had to. I would if the BEC was a linear but with switching ones most are okay Y'd.

[Janpabakker@gmail.com]

Thank you, i lthanks for your info, I have not been doing it right for more than 20 years, because I always remove the red wire when I have 2 ESCs with BEC, I just leave it like this (so without 1 red wire) thanks

[xviper]

I have Hobbywing ESC in my ME-262 I have disconnected the red plug of 1 ESC but as you say can it just be put back in? Or can I do it the way I have done now, so disconnected the red cable from 1 ESC, by the way 1 ESC is 5 amps if I connect both in parallel do I have 10 amps?

Of course you can just put it back in OR, just leave it the way you have it.
NO, having both BECs connected like this will NOT give you 10 amps.
Dynam has been using this sort of set up for their twin engined planes long before Freewing/Flightline started doing it. Wherever you "learned" that this is wrong should be unlearned or at least find out what the other parameters were that deemed it was bad to twin BEC leads together, for example, as in when the 2 ESCs weren't the same brand, size, age or other differences such as mismatched wiring gauge. (Was there an "old wife" involved?)

[Janpabakker@gmail.com]

I have Hobbywing ESC in my ME-262 I have disconnected the red plug of 1 ESC but as you say can it just be put back in? Or can I do it the way I have done now, so disconnected the red cable from 1 ESC, by the way 1 ESC is 5 amps if I connect both in parallel do I have 10 amps?

[Evan D]

Xviper is right. Motion is wrong. Some dual motor set ups have ESCs with no BECs, they are called opto and then there is a separate BEC in the plane. Other set ups have one opto and one ESC with a BEC. The ME262 has BECs in both ESCs and can be used as is without a problem.

Here is the current ESCs that it comes with.

Freewing 70mm EDF Me 262 60A Dual Brushless ESCs [262D002001] Motion RC

[Janpabakker@gmail.com]

i sent an email to motion rc and they told me that 1 ESC has a BEC and the other doesn't, i looked at both ESC and it says 5V 5 amp on the BEC, so i measured it anyway and yes both have a BEC, but i learned that you can only use 1 ESC with a BEC...? so i only disconnected 1 red wire from an ESC,

[xviper]

I have ( normal ) 2 pieces of ESC but how do i connect them, must i remove the red wire from 1 ESC ? Or is it posible to connect both ESC or wil it blow up the BEC from the ESC

There should be a "Y" provided to gang the 2 throttle leads together. Just use it. You can leave both red wires alone. You won't blow up either BEC. If you're really worried about it, cut or pull out the red wire on one of the throttle leads. It won't make any difference to the way the system works.

[Janpabakker@gmail.com]

I have ( normal ) 2 pieces of ESC but how do i connect them, must i remove the red wire from 1 ESC ? Or is it posible to connect both ESC or wil it blow up the BEC from the ESC

[Mustang95]

Successful maiden today and what a great flying jet! I adjusted travel and CG for second flight and it was stellar!
All linkage is in outer hole of servo horn and control horn, using mid rates and flying at 120mm CG.
Here is my setup info
Aileron 15/25/35mm
Elevator 10/15/20mm
Rudder 15/20/30mm
Flaps 20/35mm with 4% & 10% up

[Tadango]

Quick question: Do the wing bolts go into metal inserts? I see mixed details in some build video's. I need to remove the wings for transport so it has to be durable...

[DavidsTVBrandon]

Well thank gosh I checked these forums, cause snapping a plane in half on our grass field would suck! Thanks for the info!

[nuts-n-volts]

Yep. You want to extend them along the compartment sides as far back as practical so as to spread the load. Try to get as close to the front retract mounts as you can. Spackle the holes/paint and you're done. Think of it like you're adding longerons from the sides of the hatch to support the nose gear. The 90 degree front corner of the hatch is a super bad stress point being right behind the gear. It doesn't take much. Running from asphalt into the grass usually will break it.

[DavidsTVBrandon]

Thanks. I ordered some 5mm Carbon Rods. As I understand, drill a 5mm hole in the front of the plane, going into the battery compartment area and glued into the sides of the fuselage?

[nuts-n-volts]

Yes, on a harder landing it can break at the front corner of the hatch. Best to run CF tubes down the sides or thru the nose to tie into the retract mounts.

[DavidsTVBrandon]

I just ordered this plane. I see people are reinforcing the nose? What happens if you don't do that? Will it break on landing? I'm looking for more information on this and why I should be doing it.

[themudduck]

I've used Behr latex house paints (color matched to the model) and they work very well - for this plane I used a matte finish. Many people have had great results using a clear spray to seal and protect the original paint. Water-based Minwax Polyacrylic in the green can. Both from Home Depot in my case! The pilot figure is sitting in the back seat! You can peel the canopy off and move him - or replace him.

The three points you mentioned are good. This plane is an excellent well-behaved flyer, its only weak spot is the nose but the reinforcements take care of that. My experience is that it can be a bit nose-heavy. I've used a 5000 and a light 6200 (about 800gm) with it placed as far back as possible. If your battery is heavier than 800gm then the model will be nose-heavy (which certainly isn't a disaster, but lighter always flies better).

One tip - if you fly from grass make sure its short and clean - the motors will suck up debris which will erode the fan blades over time (or simply gunk up the blades).