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Originally posted by Twowingtj View PostThat's what I've been doing wrong:Ligthbulb:. I didn't use Maker's Mark:). Thanks, I'll give the ice a try too.....
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The repaint on the Cherokee is going horrible. The primer and paint bubbled up on one side of the fuselage, wouldn't adhere to a section of the canopy, and the wings were filled with divots and holes around every foam cell. Oddly, the elevator which was painted and prepped using all the same process and done at the same time looks perfect. Out of all the foam planes I have done paint work on, I have never had one come out this bad. I have been busy sanding, filling, sanding, filling, sanding, and filling, and more sanding trying to salvage it. Any suggestions on what the clean the foam/previous layer of paint/primer before the next coat? Normally I would be using 3M Automotive Adhesive Remover if this was a car project, but not something I think would be good for foam. I don't want to remove the previous layer of paint/primer, just make sure the surface is clean before painting.
It is amazing how much difference there is between my first Cherokee and the replacement. The first one was so nice I was afraid to paint it. The surface looked uniform and nice, paint was applied nicely, and everything was masked well around the canopy. My replacement Cherokee is completely the opposite. The surface is full of dings/dents, voids around the foam, bubbled up foam in some spots, overspray on the fuselage and canopy. I didn't feel bad about painting the replacement after I got it out of the box and saw it. I don't ever recall seeing a brand new plane in this poor of shape out of the box. Even my crappy Dynam and Tower Hobbies planes looked better. Since I was repainting it, I didn't think it would be too much of an issue. I think all of those things came back to haunt me as I started to repaint it.
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Originally posted by BRGT350 View PostThe repaint on the Cherokee is going horrible. The primer and paint bubbled up on one side of the fuselage, wouldn't adhere to a section of the canopy, and the wings were filled with divots and holes around every foam cell. Oddly, the elevator which was painted and prepped using all the same process and done at the same time looks perfect. Out of all the foam planes I have done paint work on, I have never had one come out this bad. I have been busy sanding, filling, sanding, filling, sanding, and filling, and more sanding trying to salvage it. Any suggestions on what the clean the foam/previous layer of paint/primer before the next coat? Normally I would be using 3M Automotive Adhesive Remover if this was a car project, but not something I think would be good for foam. I don't want to remove the previous layer of paint/primer, just make sure the surface is clean before painting.
It is amazing how much difference there is between my first Cherokee and the replacement. The first one was so nice I was afraid to paint it. The surface looked uniform and nice, paint was applied nicely, and everything was masked well around the canopy. My replacement Cherokee is completely the opposite. The surface is full of dings/dents, voids around the foam, bubbled up foam in some spots, overspray on the fuselage and canopy. I didn't feel bad about painting the replacement after I got it out of the box and saw it. I don't ever recall seeing a brand new plane in this poor of shape out of the box. Even my crappy Dynam and Tower Hobbies planes looked better. Since I was repainting it, I didn't think it would be too much of an issue. I think all of those things came back to haunt me as I started to repaint it.
Yes it means more work but something is wrong, so try and save it.
I've done the same thing so I know how you feel, but I was able to save my project in the end and it was worth the extra work. Better to do it right then to rush it.
That is why I say there is no perfect way you can repeat these paint jobs . Everyone is different.
It takes me almost a month to do a really good paint job because nothing always goes right.BVM Bandit, EFlite Carbon Z T-28, EFlite Carbon Z Cub, EFlite Promethus, FW Avanti S, FW A-10 ThunderBolt, FW P-51 Mustang, EFlite Convergance, EFlite Carbon Z Cessna 150, EFlite Habu, EFlite Styker Q-F27, HSD Navy Super Viper
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Originally posted by CZ Flyer View PostOne of these for sale on rcgroups.. Not as detailed as yours.
Not as nice as mine.:)
Wait till you see my next CZ T-28 paint job.BVM Bandit, EFlite Carbon Z T-28, EFlite Carbon Z Cub, EFlite Promethus, FW Avanti S, FW A-10 ThunderBolt, FW P-51 Mustang, EFlite Convergance, EFlite Carbon Z Cessna 150, EFlite Habu, EFlite Styker Q-F27, HSD Navy Super Viper
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Originally posted by t33jetman View Post
This bad , acetone it all the way back down and start over.
Yes it means more work but something is wrong, so try and save it.
I've done the same thing so I know how you feel, but I was able to save my project in the end and it was worth the extra work. Better to do it right then to rush it.
That is why I say there is no perfect way you can repeat these paint jobs . Everyone is different.
It takes me almost a month to do a really good paint job because nothing always goes right.
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Originally posted by BRGT350 View PostI think with the right prep work, I should be ok tonight to re-prime the side of the canopy. I do have the say that after all this panting and prep work, I need to get a taller work surface! A folding table might need to be in the works.BVM Bandit, EFlite Carbon Z T-28, EFlite Carbon Z Cub, EFlite Promethus, FW Avanti S, FW A-10 ThunderBolt, FW P-51 Mustang, EFlite Convergance, EFlite Carbon Z Cessna 150, EFlite Habu, EFlite Styker Q-F27, HSD Navy Super Viper
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Originally posted by t33jetman View Post
Best Regards
Woody
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Woodcock,
Flight metal is EASY, Just need lot of sharp razor blades !
My first time doing it and it turned out great. Just turn on some music and start rubbing it on and cut it. Watch the videos it went on fast after I cutout the first piece. I purchased ten feet of it just so I could practice but I didn't need it.
This was to be a quick paint job but that's out the window. I'm catching up so this might get done.
BVM Bandit, EFlite Carbon Z T-28, EFlite Carbon Z Cub, EFlite Promethus, FW Avanti S, FW A-10 ThunderBolt, FW P-51 Mustang, EFlite Convergance, EFlite Carbon Z Cessna 150, EFlite Habu, EFlite Styker Q-F27, HSD Navy Super Viper
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Originally posted by Woodcock View PostI couldn't agree more, ok jetman I'll bite, where can I get that flight metal stuff?
Woody
I purchased ten feet. That's plenty to start with.
Watch the video !
I also put it on my prop and rebalance with no issues in flight.BVM Bandit, EFlite Carbon Z T-28, EFlite Carbon Z Cub, EFlite Promethus, FW Avanti S, FW A-10 ThunderBolt, FW P-51 Mustang, EFlite Convergance, EFlite Carbon Z Cessna 150, EFlite Habu, EFlite Styker Q-F27, HSD Navy Super Viper
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