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  • #81
    Originally posted by Wild Man View Post

    I am not talking about hinge tape hinges. I replaced the original hinges with pined hinges in the same slots, Then put hinge tape on
    Understood. I would still leave the stock plastic hinges in place and squeeze in more glue (CA) AND do the hot glue or FoamTac hinge. Pinning them is also a good thing, too.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by xviper View Post
      Understood. I would still leave the stock plastic hinges in place and squeeze in more glue (CA) AND do the hot glue or FoamTac hinge. Pinning them is also a good thing, too.
      The are not plastic hinges, they are the fabric style hinge that are in the Draco tail Rudder and elevator ailerons and flaps are different.

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      • #83
        Fabric kind are even better. They wick in CA much better.

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        • #84
          I have been having a great experience so far with the Wilga in red. When it arrived, the rudder was rubbing on the vert stab such that I chose to razor off a mm or so. Programming Spektrum is becoming less friendly. I changed the reverse control input to the momentary button.
           
          There are hundreds of RC aviation videos viewable here; WBRC

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          • #85
            Has anyone come up with a color match for the red paint?

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            • #86
              I was out to day and put over an hour flying time on my Draco ran through Batteries, 7 to 8 minute flights. One more thing I have found that is not quite right is the Horizontal fin is not tight and will move back and forth in the mount causing a problem with trimming the elevator. The linkage moves the fin back and forth when apply up or down elevator as you can see in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igogm0ZoHEk. Not good for a 600.00 dollar plane hopefully they can remedy the problem. The snap in tail is a great feature but is very sloppy in flight the plane will not hold a decent trim for level flight

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              • #87
                The loose elevator is a crappy thing for a 600 buck foamie. I plan to glue mine in solid.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by xviper View Post
                  The loose elevator is a crappy thing for a 600 buck foamy. I plan to glue mine in solid.
                  I am going to do the same xviper, as soon as my replacement stabilizer and strut assembly gets here. Xviper here is another update I have done on the tail wheel assembly. The sliding bars had a little glue on them that I removed, and after many, many touch and goes and reversing the thrust to stop it the tail wheel assembly was flopping from side to side I found that the sliding bars that the tail wheel assembly attaches to were bending together and the holes drilled in the bars are larger then the mounting screw so I made a carbon tube spacer to put between the two sliding bars in the fuse. Now the tail wheel is very tight and does not flop at all and the steering is much better
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                  • #89
                    The Horizon rep on the other forum finally said that those 2 metal sliders should not move in any way. In fact, they should be held firm. For some reason, they figured that the paint would be enough to hold them from sliding. Many of the guys that have this plane, have now glued those sliders completely solid. I'm going to squeeze FoamTac or hot glue down into those slots that we see the metal sliders through. Epoxy may be too permanent. There may be a reason in the future to remove those sliders to do any repair or maintenance work.

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                    • #90
                      Hello People, i just received the long waited DRACO. today i will start the series of the unboxing and assembly, also suggestions in case i think are needed. I hope to do the maiden next Sunday, may 23rd. Click image for larger version

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                      • #91
                        Originally posted by wrangler1 View Post
                        Hello People, i just received the long waited DRACO. today i will start the series of the unboxing and assembly, also suggestions in case i think are needed. I hope to do the maiden next Sunday, may 23rd. Click image for larger version

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                        You're gonna have some fun! So, Chris from The RC Geek (great youtube channel) suggested replacing the stock wheels with Dubro 5.5" inflatable tires. The stock wheels make for pretty bouncy landings. I got the Du-bro's and it makes a world of difference. But... I think the 5.5" are just a tad too big. Flying without air in them as Chris suggested but they can tend to rub against the shocks as there isn't much clearance. And, the tires will pump up a bit of its warm out...especially on pavement. So, I just ordered the 5" tires. Should give some more clearance.
                        they are heavier than the stock but they really don't effect CG. They actually help getting her down with full flaps! She'll just float with a head wind lol. Maybe lose 60 seconds or so of battery time but totally worth it. I was getting 12-14 mins of mixed flying on a 6s 6000.
                        have fun man. She flies amazingly. Horizon really stepped it up on this one!

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                        • #92
                          Originally posted by WrightBrosRC View Post
                          I have been having a great experience so far with the Wilga in red. When it arrived, the rudder was rubbing on the vert stab such that I chose to razor off a mm or so. Programming Spektrum is becoming less friendly. I changed the reverse control input to the momentary button.
                          flying bro. Awaiting mine here in Australia. Ordered on release but delayed here.

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                          • #93
                            Maidened my DRACO this morning. Perfect flights. All stock except for 6" Dubro balloon tires. These added over a pound to the total weight. Didn't seem to adversely affect flight characteristics. This plane weighs over 10 lbs., so it already flies heavy. Flown with HRB 6000mah, 6s, got 7.5 minutes with mixed throttle. Landings were perfect on GeoTex with no flaps, 1/2 flaps and full flaps. Rolls like a hippo in mud. Loops are effortless. Slow fly bys look terrific. We had two in the air flying in tandem doing circuits. Looked very impressive.

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                            • #94
                              Glad to hear it!
                              My YouTube RC videos:
                              https://www.youtube.com/@toddbreda

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                              • #95
                                The Draco is very nice, its also £500 so I got to thinking about the old STOL plane which I bought for £30 in 2014 but the years in the loft had not been too kind with a broken elevator, weak landing gear and broken motor cowl. The white epo and blue stickers and faded numbers and markings did not help so I splashed out on a new propeller, new hinges, a bit of wire for the landing gear and raided the paint store so I now have an almost new bush plane with almost sofisticated landing gear and a new lease of life. The sofisticated 2 position flaps ( run off the one servo of course ) give great STOL characteristics when mixed with 10% down elevator and it loops, rolls, stall turns, bunts and stands almost still flying into a light wind. No expense was spared to create this fantastic model ( £3.50p to be precise ) A massive 210watts of power blast this 585gm monster into the sky using an impressive 2830 1000kv out runner with a 10x8 jxf prop fed by a 1000mah 3s lipo lasting 4.5mins per flight. Battery access is via the state of the art door handle on the port side of the plane. Horizon must be shaking in their boots

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                                • #96
                                  Originally posted by paulrkytek View Post
                                  The Draco is very nice, its also £500 so I got to thinking about the old STOL plane which I bought for £30 in 2014 but the years in the loft had not been too kind with a broken elevator, weak landing gear and broken motor cowl. The white epo and blue stickers and faded numbers and markings did not help so I splashed out on a new propeller, new hinges, a bit of wire for the landing gear and raided the paint store so I now have an almost new bush plane with almost sofisticated landing gear and a new lease of life. The sofisticated 2 position flaps ( run off the one servo of course ) give great STOL characteristics when mixed with 10% down elevator and it loops, rolls, stall turns, bunts and stands almost still flying into a light wind. No expense was spared to create this fantastic model ( £3.50p to be precise ) A massive 210watts of power blast this 585gm monster into the sky using an impressive 2830 1000kv out runner with a 10x8 jxf prop fed by a 1000mah 3s lipo lasting 4.5mins per flight. Battery access is via the state of the art door handle on the port side of the plane. Horizon must be shaking in their boots

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                                  Very Nice Paul, you now I Love the Tiger!
                                  Hugh "Wildman" Wiedman
                                  Hangar: EDF's: Mig 29 TV "Cobra", A-10 Arctic, SU-27 90mm 8S:F22 Red Lion/EuroFighterBronzeTiger/F18 Canadian & Tiger Meet/F16/F4 Jolly Rodgers & Blue Angel, 80&90 TV Avanti, Viper, Stinger 90. Props: 1600 Corsair & Spitfire, B-24, 1700 P-51, 60" Beast & P2 Bipe, Extreme Flight-FW-190 Red Tulip, Slick 60, 62" Extra 300, 62" MXS Heavy Metal, 62" Edge

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                                  • #97
                                    I maidened mined today, I was wondering if anyone has a similar experience to me. I got at least 25 take offs and landings off 3 batteries, which was just about the only fun thing it does. It's a bit of a turd in the air, to the point that I'm uncomfortable doing most maneuvers without a good amount of altitude for fear of it rotating the wrong way on it's own. it's roll rate is shockingly bad, I've had more fun flying several trainers. It stalls easier than I expected, although it recovers from stalls extremely easily. I have to admit it's fun letting it dead stick for the last 5 feet or so, and then slamming on the "brakes."
                                    I don't want to sound too negative, it's a really cool plane that has been built extremely well - it's probably the nicest built foamy I've ever seen. It's presence is great.

                                    one more thing - I bought the PNP and threw an AR637T in there, but for some reason the smart ESC features won't work. It tells me I need to hold low throttle, up elevator, and left ail for 5-10 seconds. when I do this, at the bottom of the screen it says "TMR 1 and TMR 2" but then nothing happens. I can't get any telemetry, and I'm not ok with that. I was under the impression that these things just plug in and link right up with a spek tx, this has never happened to me before. any ideas?

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                                    • #98
                                      My feelings on the plane is similar to yours. Build quality is nice but that tail wheel steering business is flakey and the reverse feature got old real fast. It flies heavy but it does fly OK. It rolls like a ton of bricks but it can fly inverted OK. Does loops quite nicely. With soft tires, it lands well, without the bouncing we've seen in almost all the preview vids. Looks real nice and unique just sitting there on the ground and a low fly by does garner attention. However, after several flights, one looks back at all the OVER-hype and wonders .......................... What was that all about? It's not that wonderful.
                                      I can't help you with your TX issues. I got the BNF and all works fine.

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                                      • #99
                                        PNP versions are apparently almost ready to be shipped in Europe.
                                        LHS sort of promised they would be coming in this week, let's see if that holds up. 😁

                                        I'm a bit surprised that many people are suddenly having buyers remorse or blame it on the hype. Keeping a critical attitude towards your purchases is your sole responsibility, not that of the company selling the product.

                                        In real life Draco is/was a STOL aircraft, so why would you expect the 'sort of scale' model to be anything else but that? It sort of comes with the quirks of the original plane. That was no aerobat/3D machine either.
                                        And yes, the model is heavy, so was the original, especially compared to the other STOL aircraft. For the model that means you should be getting a aircraft that handles windy conditions quite alright. Which is one of the reasons I'm getting one, besides everything the original represents and its presence.
                                        It's almost like complaining that the Spitfire is prone to nose overs. It's a Spitfire, what else did you expect? 😂 Adjust your flying skills accordingly en enjoy it! 😎

                                        If you want planes that look somewhat like their originals but fly a whole lot better than the original, get an aircraft from Sebart. Their PC21 is an excellent example of that.
                                        I've been flying a Sebart Shark for almost a decade now and its still one of my favorites. Although a bit lightweight for its size, it can be a handful in high winds, or a lot of fun if you like flying backwards. 😁

                                        As for the binding issue, I'm afraid I won't be of much help there, don't have the plane yet and I'm on Jeti equipment. But I hope you get it figured out!

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                                        • Originally posted by bartje View Post
                                          I'm a bit surprised that many people are suddenly having buyers remorse or blame it on the hype. Keeping a critical attitude towards your purchases is your sole responsibility, not that of the company selling the product.
                                          This statement is one of THE MOST ridiculous ones I've read but then, this IS the internet. As a customer who spent my money on a product, it is my right to form whatever opinion of the product and sales experience that I want. "Blame it on the hype"? Wow, that's a REALLY dumb statement. "Keeping a critical attitude" in light of blatant deficiencies? Again ...................... WOW!
                                          I won't go into further discussions on this as those reading your statement can judge for themselves.

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