Upgrade Paths, Explained

[Evan D]

Basically dremeled out the battery compartment wall towards the rear and velcroed the battery to the floor. I can access the battery connectors and balance tab from the normal battery hatch door.

[Hamsolo]

I use a 5200mAh 2S LiPo from Hobby Star in all my tanks and love them. There are a couple tanks with small battery compartments like the T-90 that I did a small dremel mod to have the battery sitting in the tank floorboards.

Yeah, I wonder why HL decided to make the battery compartment so small on their T90 considering the hull has plenty of space to work with otherwise. What exactly did you do with your tank if I might ask?

[Hamsolo]

Yes and No. They are rated for up to 12.6 volts for short periods of time but will get hot at that voltage if continuously run at it. If you run the tank in the "low power" mode it will not get hot and will work perfectly well. Low power mode will only use 70% of the total voltage available.

Now THAT is handy to know! If nothing else, it makes several other batteries I currently own available for use. It also means when I'm crawling around the yard I could conceivably go into high power mode for a few seconds to get past a tricky obstacle. Thank you!

[Evan D]

I use a 5200mAh 2S LiPo from Hobby Star in all my tanks and love them. There are a couple tanks with small battery compartments like the T-90 that I did a small dremel mod to have the battery sitting in the tank floorboards.

[Rubicon99]

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread... I wanted to verify that is correct that the Heng Long 6.1 controller can handle a 3s LiPo? If so, does that apply to the 7.0/7.1 controllers as well? When I bought my first tank, I talked with one of the techs at Toucan about that very issue, and they said no, it would fry the controller.

Also if the controller can handle a 3s, what other modifications would need to be done? Cooling fins on the motors would be a minimum I would think. I'm committed to Deans plugs already for my other models, so that's a given. The tank in question (M1A2 Abrams) also has a steel gearbox and metal tracks and wheels.

Thanks for your help!

Yes and No. They are rated for up to 12.6 volts for short periods of time but will get hot at that voltage if continuously run at it. If you run the tank in the "low power" mode it will not get hot and will work perfectly well. Low power mode will only use 70% of the total voltage available.

[Hamsolo]

They switch to Deans because the 6.1 has a higher amp and voltage rating and Tamiya plugs do not do well with high amp and voltages. Tamiya plugs are good to about 9 volts and 15 amps after that they get really hot and can melt with prolonged high voltage and amp draws. The 6.1 is meant to handle 3 cell Lipos (11-12v) and larger motors when combined can easily draw up to 20 amps = very hot.

Trust me the Tamiya plugs would melt and most likely burn with 12v and 20 amps flowing through them for anything much over a minute or two of use.

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread... I wanted to verify that is correct that the Heng Long 6.1 controller can handle a 3s LiPo? If so, does that apply to the 7.0/7.1 controllers as well? When I bought my first tank, I talked with one of the techs at Toucan about that very issue, and they said no, it would fry the controller.

Also if the controller can handle a 3s, what other modifications would need to be done? Cooling fins on the motors would be a minimum I would think. I'm committed to Deans plugs already for my other models, so that's a given. The tank in question (M1A2 Abrams) also has a steel gearbox and metal tracks and wheels.

Thanks for your help!

[Rubicon99]

It's not available RTR. Not Heng Long anyway.

Yes it is. You just are not looking outside of EBay. Look at Toucans actual store or on Amazon or Aliexpress. That Panther has been around for a long time and is referred to as a “pan tiger” because it is a combination of a Panther and Tiger tank.

[thebates]

It's not available RTR. Not Heng Long anyway.

[Rubicon99]

Very simple question here. Can this be upgraded to operational?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/22449645004...Cclp%3A2047675

Yes. It’s a rather easy conversation back to R/C. But it might be cheaper just to buy the R/C version.

[thebates]

Very simple question here. Can this be upgraded to operational?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224496450047?_trkparms=aid%3D1110002%26algo%3DSPLICE.SOI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20201210111451%26meid%3Dafc1e262e8af4b2baebda4de9a4a3567%26pid%3D101196%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D324676470362%26itm%3D224496450047%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675%26algv%3DPromotedSellersOtherItemsV2WithMLRv3%26brand%3DHenglong&_trksid=p2047675.c101196.m2219&amdata=cksum%3A224496450047afc1e262e8af4b2baebda4de9a4a3567%7Cenc%3AAQAGAAACANC%252BziEO5F9m5lFeYxPr1JpHK9A9W6iiCuVMctBGBUtrZaT5I4y6x2AoXgJULyz4oa8EKbbmEG9xCOz9az44OAlHMwDyZWKWzgObsoBhguQc%252BWIQn7uwANDtaR1UBFY5cvjvKjxpdRZ6OHd5KSQ6SnjWsygUGs%252FSFTcahN%252Bq3o70nSI30P6jF7NQrN46%252Bb27az3uWUgldus8RMTcXlB6X3WisOQZOp0ItssJGEBWuXC4tY8DVUSQkIfPCPhiMh%252B%252BzsR3YiTXr2YU9h%252FPK6pcDn2gFziX%252B2pE5AfEDl9XmXBbQw3r9xYRoAeBGS2Z1TVBr4BPZCSRjFMHYj1gujlVYBRsprxyT%252BXEWcjUXCre7Y8NNHIiEepXBLADjmUvFgknNCIxGd9C5qpm%252FlaxFL5hQXhvz3iQR%252FbB3dKEmfb1TNnIIMq5qQS%252BWNcDcCkBW6qjPXjTHNH%252F6TstFItJORQPBBxAXZfEGn637eCjxi1O5Id2AUGD2SlOsNNeGPgMx7BxyNRYojyOqzEjJl5oP5kPEzoF463b9y7VdU%252B2m62WeqVQsHk2dqdHD5ePb0R6fuJ63OISUwXV90JtNOAFiFdUPnF%252FwlcsGwknSy%252Buqz3WyP6eMnL1CNon5lsoQVfgolrFn6tjnzRwOvIAaD1Hqmw4JbwO5rO5HH32SPNwCsfOzeXk%7Campid%3APL_CLK%7Cclp%3A2047675

[Sureshot]

I can see how that would work if you ran the servo motor to the airsoft output of the 6.0 board and just held the cannon button for a second to fire and activate the recoil then you would need a spring to return the barrel to battery as he has said in the video.
Creative thinking!
Steve

[UltraVargen]

After everyone saying you need a 6.1 board to make servo recoil work: Apparently it is possible to use a servo motor with the 6.0 board? I see this dude uses a two-wire servomotor?

(400) 1/16 풀메탈 타이거1 업그레이드및 도색하기(Upgrade and Paint 1/16 Full Metal Tiger1) - YouTube

[DimMak]

Pictures of the innards.

[DimMak]

Btw if anyone is interested in a custom Heng Long tank straight from the factory let me know. I can send you to my contact. Nice guy and good communication.

[DimMak]

Will do. I will upload some working videos and the internals.

[Rubicon99]

I paid 1400 USD. I added the FPV camera system also. I think sales guy mentioned it's the new IR dome with magnet I can attach on top my tank for IR battles. The drive system is really nice. Running the TKS 6.1s because the factory recommends 160amp to run the heavy tank vs the 40 amp on the 7.0

Ok the IR system is the same as the 6.0 version which is an upgrade from the older 5.3.

The cross drive is a nice upgrade, they are slightly smoother handling then the twin gearboxes.

Yes the 6.1S(7.1) is by far the best of the systems HL has to offer. Looks like you will have a good tank once it arrives and you get it all painted to your liking. Keep us informed and post a bunch of photos.

[DimMak]

[DimMak]

I paid 1400 USD. I added the FPV camera system also. I think sales guy mentioned it's the new IR dome with magnet I can attach on top my tank for IR battles. The drive system is really nice. Running the TKS 6.1s because the factory recommends 160amp to run the heavy tank vs the 40 amp on the 7.0

[Rubicon99]

How about the metal chassis. Do I need some sort or primer to help the paint stick?

Yes and No. If you use enamel paint then a primer is not really necessary but will not hurt either. If you are using an acrylic paint then yes use a primer.

Just out of curiosity what did you end up paying for the Abrams? Did they explain what the “Increased IR battle” means as far as function? We have been keeping our fingers crossed that it means more then what is currently offered?

[DimMak]

How about the metal chassis. Do I need some sort or primer to help the paint stick?