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**SoCalBobS** · Mar 8, 2023, 05:06 PM

Hey David, how about some info on your black boxes. How big, where bought, how the tanks and anything else are packed, etc.

**DavidN** · Mar 8, 2023, 06:54 PM

Originally posted by SoCalBobS View Post

Hey David, how about some info on your black boxes. How big, where bought, how the tanks and anything else are packed, etc.

I have three types of black toolboxes and all were from Walmart: 19 inches by Hyper Tough at $13, 22 inches by Hyper Tough at $16, and 26 inches by HART at $25.

Robot or human?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hyper-Tough-22-inch-Toolbox-Plastic-Tool-and-Hardware-Storage-Black/430595277

Robot or human?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hyper-Tough-19-inch-Toolbox-Plastic-Tool-and-Hardware-Storage-Black/38498863

Robot or human?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HART-26-Toolbox-Resin-Tool-Storage-and-Organization-Black-with-Blue-Accents/462856563

You can go to the local Walmart or order online.

**DavidN** · Mar 8, 2023, 06:58 PM

The 19 inch box could be used for the panzer III, IV, and Sherman (no tx).

The 22 inch boxes are for the T34/85, KV1, KV2, M26 and M41.

**DavidN** · Mar 8, 2023, 07:07 PM

The Tiger I also fits into the 22 inch box.

**DavidN** · Mar 8, 2023, 07:09 PM

The panther and Jagdpanther are for the HART 26 inch box. All of these boxes are not for the modern tanks.

**DavidN** · Mar 13, 2023, 08:56 PM

**DavidN** · Mar 17, 2023, 09:00 AM

It will be sunny next Saturday in HB. So we are good to proceed...

**DavidN** · Mar 17, 2023, 09:03 PM

My tanks are ready for the Eastern Front Battle next Saturday...

**DavidN** · Mar 17, 2023, 09:04 PM

**DavidN** · Mar 17, 2023, 09:04 PM

**quitcherbitchen** · Mar 17, 2023, 09:35 PM

Impressive. Stalingrad?

**DavidN** · Mar 17, 2023, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by quitcherbitchen View Post

Impressive. Stalingrad?

I only have 10 German tanks that are gray. So I just put them all together for this event.

**SoCalBobS** · Mar 18, 2023, 01:17 PM

David, you might be interested in this article. Of particular interest is when German tanks switched from a gray basecoat to dark yellow.

German Armor Camouflage

https://panzerworld.com/german-armor-camouflage

History of the camouflage of German armor from 1927 to 1945.

On 18 February 1943, Inspectorate 2 issued an order to paint all vehicles in a base coat of dark yellow (dunkelgelb). On top of the dark yellow was to be painted a pattern of olive green (olivgrün, a color adopted from the Reichluftfahrtsministerium (RLM) (Reich ministry of aviation)), red brown (rotbraun RAL 8017), and dunkelgelb. Paint was ordered by the units according to their types and amount of equipment for re-painting in the field.

One other point in the article I appreciated is the accuracy of museum painting.

Museum vehicles are rarely re-painted correctly. While some museums do research the camouflage, such research is often based on articles written for modelers. As such articles may, in part, be based on museum vehicle paint jobs, this practice can likewise lead to wrong conclusions.

Bottom line, paint like you want to! I do.