What's next from Motion RC?

[Elbee]

Yeah, I hear you. I have purchased only 6 models since coming back to the hobby. All have been Freewing/Flightline, so my reference point is limited to what lines those models have. In the end, it might just add time to the weathering process if I wanted to add more detail and I can take forever to finish a model, LOL. The pencil technique works for me, as does just adding bumps and flat panels or vents. Likely we'll see fewer in the future, but as long as these fly well, that's the ticket to success.

[Mizer67]

Alpha As I am listening to your podcast from 9/8 (last night) I evidently missed your question about preferences about reducing the number of panel lines on future aircraft. I don't know if my late vote counts, but as I look at my Phantom as an example, the panel lines certainly add to the overall and that airframe would be greatly diminished without panel lines. My F-18C has fewer it seems to me and I wish it had more. The A-10 looks great as does my Spitfire, so I say the same amount or more. I have used 1/32nd and 1/64th drafting tape before my final prime coats on my balsa and fiberglass models of the past, but that is because those had few or none to start. Panel lines on your foam airframes is one of the things I like as it saves me from adding those myself and are great reference points for repaint markings. Am I lazy, maybe, but that level of detail is something I have come to expect in models of this caliber. Respectfully, LB

I'm not a huge scale guy, but I thought the panel lines on the F-18C were about in the "Goldielocks" zone.

Not too many as to be obnoxious while adding detail and character and not too deep as to be ridiculous.

[MikeT]

Not all of the F-100s had a substandard finish.

Mine had one minor finish flaw, plus a few very small instances of glue on the surface under the foam.

Honestly, it was better finished than my FW F-14, which had more issues than my F-100 did.

No doubt here are a few problems with some of the models. Some of the pictures posted elsewhere proved it and I would not have been happy with some of those more major finish flaws, either.

Color me happy with my F-100!

Thanks that's what I thought. Seems like there was some serious bashing going on. Some of it by those who didn't even own the plane. I'm keeping it on my "maybe" list waiting for more "real world" reviews. I've always wanted a decent size F-100.

Mike

[tab28682]

Interesting, I saw a couple of complaints on finish but no ,more than usual.

Mike

Not all of the F-100s had a substandard finish.

Mine had one minor finish flaw, plus a few very small instances of glue on the surface under the foam.

Honestly, it was better finished than my FW F-14, which had more issues than my F-100 did.

No doubt here are a few problems with some of the models. Some of the pictures posted elsewhere proved it and I would not have been happy with some of those more major finish flaws, either.

Color me happy with my F-100!

[Prowler901]

Right?! Sad to see them all there. To bad I can't buy one and refurbish it. That would be sweet. It's a nice little plane.

[Dirty Dee]

I flew in the C.

Very cool! Also, little did I know when I chose the A, that the amount of reference images are hard to come by, and most are boneyard pics

[Prowler901]

I modeled the A variant, not the C.

Ah, I forgot about the A model. I flew in the C.

[Dirty Dee]

Is it the perspective of the second shot, or did you design it with only one exhaust outlet?

I modeled the A variant, not the C.

[Prowler901]

Ive been adding panel lines on my my newest project, and I can say that I am pushing 40 hours adding all of the details with a bit more to go. Very worth it!

I enjoy the panel lines on the foam models as it adds to the overall look and depth of the model. as much as I enjoyed my plain Phase3 EF-16 with it's full flying tail, it doesnt compare in the beauty department as the FW 70mm even though it had foam-hinged elevators..

Is it the perspective of the second shot, or did you design it with only one exhaust outlet?

[Elbee]

I agree lb. Just got the mig 17 no panel lines. To look at my f4u and then avious mig. Is a no brainier. Panel lines make it .... I can't imagine the hours to make a plane look like that

And Dirty Dee, I am glad to see some others who are in this camp, though from a Mfg POV, I see merit in cost elimination and complexity. In the end, I will add those lines and panels that are prominent as in days past, but my Phantom, A-10, and Spitfire would appear much differently without OEM lines. I did notice there are fewer on the Hornet. The 'scale repaint contingent' seem to favor the detail it adds, and equally I am sure many out there don't see that level of detail as a factor in their purchasing decisions. I would not know the difference until I bought one with fewer or none and then took the time to compare it to other Freewing/Flightline models. My thought would be 'cost savings'. If no panel lines were on any future models, I would hope a decent manufacturer's 5-view of their airframe would be included with panel lines shown with dimensions say from datum or thrust line to give us place to start. Time will tell and pencil lines are okay and are more accurate, but I like to see 'em or some facsimile. Best to all, LB

[Dirty Dee]

I can't imagine the hours to make a plane look like that

Ive been adding panel lines on my my newest project, and I can say that I am pushing 40 hours adding all of the details with a bit more to go. Very worth it!

I enjoy the panel lines on the foam models as it adds to the overall look and depth of the model. as much as I enjoyed my plain Phase3 EF-16 with it's full flying tail, it doesnt compare in the beauty department as the FW 70mm even though it had foam-hinged elevators..

[f4u ausie]

I agree lb. Just got the mig 17 no panel lines. To look at my f4u and then avious mig. Is a no brainier. Panel lines make it .... I can't imagine the hours to make a plane look like that

[Elbee]

Alpha As I am listening to your podcast from 9/8 (last night) I evidently missed your question about preferences about reducing the number of panel lines on future aircraft. I don't know if my late vote counts, but as I look at my Phantom as an example, the panel lines certainly add to the overall and that airframe would be greatly diminished without panel lines. My F-18C has fewer it seems to me and I wish it had more. The A-10 looks great as does my Spitfire, so I say the same amount or more. I have used 1/32nd and 1/64th drafting tape before my final prime coats on my balsa and fiberglass models of the past, but that is because those had few or none to start. Panel lines on your foam airframes is one of the things I like as it saves me from adding those myself and are great reference points for repaint markings. Am I lazy, maybe, but that level of detail is something I have come to expect in models of this caliber. Respectfully, LB

[MikeT]

I've gotten off the fence on the Flex F-100 and won't get it. The QC issues of the ones delivered so far don't make it a good value for the big bucks they charge for it. Besides, those Flex/Aura fanbois over at the other forum pushed the thing just hard enough and obnoxiously enough, that it was easy to pushed me away. Their stupidity lost a sale for Flex.
If Freewing made one, I would certainly look at it with great enthusiasm. And you know it'll blow the flaps off the Flex offering.

Interesting, I saw a couple of complaints on finish but no ,more than usual.

Mike

[Jdcrow]

I promise I'm gonna stop... but come on... look at it... I know those gear are scary... but don't fight it... just let it happen

if so, make sure the main gear stagger when transitioning from deployed/stowed etc

https://youtu.be/BzUUlO6ihwE

[T-CAT]

I've gotten off the fence on the Flex F-100 and won't get it. The QC issues of the ones delivered so far don't make it a good value for the big bucks they charge for it. Besides, those Flex/Aura fanbois over at the other forum pushed the thing just hard enough and obnoxiously enough, that it was easy to pushed me away. Their stupidity lost a sale for Flex.
If Freewing made one, I would certainly look at it with great enthusiasm. And you know it'll blow the flaps off the Flex offering.

I definitely understand. There are only a few manufacturers/factories of PNP foam EDF jets I prefer and trust at the moment, and that jet likely isn't made by one of them (not that other manufacturers and brands are "bad", it's simply that I find more value in products offered by specific ones over years of product ownership). Hopefully I can add more trusted manufacturers and brands to that list in the future. I had some thoughts of what manufacturer could have produced that jet or the parts found on it, and it made me weary. I don't own the jet, so I can't speak from experience. However, when I purchase a product, especially one that gets airborne, I need to have confidence that what I'm laying money down for will meet my expectations.

If Freewing made a F-100 in a 80 or 90mm EDF size, I'd feel more comfortable purchasing it at the moment, and that's just the way it is.

[xviper]

Your thoughts mimic mine , but I had to push Alpha's buttons to give a nudge...nudge. Freewing would likely knock that jet out of the park.

I've gotten off the fence on the Flex F-100 and won't get it. The QC issues of the ones delivered so far don't make it a good value for the big bucks they charge for it. Besides, those Flex/Aura fanbois over at the other forum pushed the thing just hard enough and obnoxiously enough, that it was easy to pushed me away. Their stupidity lost a sale for Flex.
If Freewing made one, I would certainly look at it with great enthusiasm. And you know it'll blow the flaps off the Flex offering.

[T-CAT]

The Flex Innovations 90mm just got released. What Alpha mentioned on an earlier stream regarding the hobbyking Herc might apply here.

Your thoughts mimic mine , but I had to push Alpha's buttons to give a nudge...nudge. Freewing would likely knock that jet out of the park.

[Dirty Dee]

I'll throw another in the ring......get a F-100 80 or 90mm EDF jet out the door. Sooner than later.

The Flex Innovations 90mm just got released. What Alpha mentioned on an earlier stream regarding the hobbyking Herc might apply here.

[T-CAT]

I'll throw another in the ring......get a F-100 80 or 90mm EDF jet out the door. Sooner than later.