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Official Freewing 90mm Eurofighter Typhoon EDF Jet Thread

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  • Tom
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    #61
    Thank you!

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    • Vintage Racer
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      #62
      Originally posted by Tom
      Well, that is interesting. All the specs and product are 3668-1980. Interesting the manual says 3668-1960. Good catch. I'll ask Freewing if something changed and which is correct. I'm working on tiger vs no tiger decal. Ideally, the tiger decals would be in the box but it may be waterslide and extremely difficult to apply on the tapered/curved surfaces. In that case, its better the factory apply them.
      First, what a great model this will be! I have been one of those folks trying to get you to make another Eurofighter, or just release the old version again. I have a question however, will there be a German version? Thanks very much for your time.
      I don't fly my V2 version ever, because I couldn't fathom losing it.

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      • 50 Fly
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        #63
        Originally posted by Evan D
        I have to think they wanted to keep the gear more scale looking. Since it's a totally new aircraft I don't think "too big a revision" had anything to do with it.

        My opinion has always been that these should be flown from a paved runway for best results.



        Didn't know it was an all-new design, guess you could be right about the scale appearance, but I hope that's not it. Why? How many guys look at the A-10/MIG 21/F-4 etc and say "shazaam, that gear is way off." Especially when main gear strut covers are used, the look is, IMO, unaffected, yet the functionality is GREATLY improved. Agree with you about paved runways/better results, of course, but the several clubs I belong to that are large enough for jets all have grass runways (like the majority of fields in the U.S.) In my fleet, all jets with some form of trailing link gear have zero gear problems, even on the roughest field. However, those with straight legs are "iffy". Depends on the mounts, the field, the landing. Straight legs, even with some form of vertical compression, do not dampen the shock loads encountered from taxiing/takeoff/landing like a trailing link. The difference is easy to see when taxiing with good trailing link gear. They're very "active".

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        • Evan D
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          #64
          I understand 100% 50 Fly.


          Everyone needs to realize this is a 100% new design with nothing in common to the V1/V2 except the name and fan size. Just like the newer F/A-18C is nothing in common to the old V1/V2 FA-18E.

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          • Tom
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            #65
            Originally posted by Vintage Racer

            First, what a great model this will be! I have been one of those folks trying to get you to make another Eurofighter, or just release the old version again. I have a question however, will there be a German version? Thanks very much for your time.
            I don't fly my V2 version ever, because I couldn't fathom losing it.

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            There are not any plans for a German version right now but it is something I can suggest to Freewing for the future.

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            • Vintage Racer
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              #66
              Originally posted by Tom

              There are not any plans for a German version right now but it is something I can suggest to Freewing for the future.
              Okay then well, I'll just have to be patient!

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              • 50 Fly
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                #67
                Originally posted by Evan D
                I understand 100% 50 Fly.


                Everyone needs to realize this is a 100% new design with nothing in common to the V1/V2 except the name and fan size. Just like the newer F/A-18C is nothing in common to the old V1/V2 FA-18E.
                Yes, re-read and I get it now. Makes it doubly disappointing they chose a gear design best for pavement, that they didn't stay consistent with what has made so many jets successful from grass. I've been converting a number of EDF's to turbines, takes a lot of time so need to have it right. "It all starts with the gear"! Might be able to re-trofit A-10 mains to the Typhoon, if wheel wells will allow. Maybe someone from the factory could chime in? Alpha?

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                • Airguardian
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                  #68
                  Tom, Jets appear as 'in stock' in the EU warehouse... that must certainly be a mistake, right?

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                  • Evan D
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                    #69
                    Says preorder in the description so you are adding to cart the preorder.

                    I see the little green "in stock". The US site has it too.

                    I know it was cut and paste but the 8S version says "6 Cell 22.2V 5000-6000 mAh LiPo Battery (required)".

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                    • TGoelzer
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Evan D
                      Thanks Tom, ordering now.


                      Thanks again!
                      Did you go 6S or 8S?

                      I still trying to figure out which one to go with.

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                      • Evan D
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                        #71
                        6S. But I have my reasons. First the new 6S fan/ motor has my interest on how it'll do. It's a smaller motor but the same size as the HET 650-68 and has a pretty high kV for a 12b fan so I'm curious to see how it does. Second Tom said that the 6S will come with the HV Hobby Wing ESC so if I want to drop one of two Jet Fan/ HET 8S set up in I won't have to get a new ESC (though I do have a spare HW HV ESC in my drawer). I have both a 1500 and 1680 8S JF/ HET I can choose from and a bunch of batteries I'm using in my current 8S set ups, good to have choices.

                        If I was in the situation where I would fly either "as is" I'd probably get the 8S for the extra $50.

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                        • Alphonso
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                          #72
                          Originally posted by 50 Fly

                          Yes, re-read and I get it now. Makes it doubly disappointing they chose a gear design best for pavement, that they didn't stay consistent with what has made so many jets successful from grass. I've been converting a number of EDF's to turbines, takes a lot of time so need to have it right. "It all starts with the gear"! Might be able to re-trofit A-10 mains to the Typhoon, if wheel wells will allow. Maybe someone from the factory could chime in? Alpha?
                          I think the straight struts will be fine on grass. It.s not a plane that will land hot. The F22 has straight struts. The A10 is much better with straight struts on grass. The nose is raked forward and the natural landing attitude of a delta will rake the mains forward at th point of touch down. If you wanted some trailers that look straight (so technically not actually trailing link) , the F4 90mm mains could possibly work well and have a good spring strength for a 4kg + model.

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                          • Tom
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                            #73
                            We will have both grass ops and pavement videos up in a week or two.

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                            • 50 Fly
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                              #74
                              Originally posted by Alphonso

                              I think the straight struts will be fine on grass. It.s not a plane that will land hot. The F22 has straight struts. The A10 is much better with straight struts on grass. The nose is raked forward and the natural landing attitude of a delta will rake the mains forward at th point of touch down. If you wanted some trailers that look straight (so technically not actually trailing link) , the F4 90mm mains could possibly work well and have a good spring strength for a 4kg + model.
                              Understand your point, Alpha. Having heard you on a pod-cast, I have big respect for your drive to understand and satisfy the customer, so knowing that your experience with F-22 leads you here helps a lot, they are similar. As you say, I've heard of no one complaining about gear issues with the F-22. Personally, I've stayed with the higher-loaded jets for the challenge, but it's time for a "floater". Appreciate the reply, you are first-class, thanks for all you do to help insure a great "struggle-to-fun ratio " p.s. I had an A-10 for awhile (too tough to convert to turbine) but it was a *****cat to fly so I sold it. Wish I'd kept it now, would like to have tried the straight struts to learn. I saw you guys were offering straight struts, know you wouldn't do that if it didn't work well.

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                              • Evan D
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                                #75
                                Alphonso is not Alpha.

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                                • Airguardian
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                                  #76
                                  Ended up making a video to express my thoughts on the new FW EF



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                                  • Alphonso
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                                    #77
                                    Originally posted by Evan D
                                    Alphonso is not Alpha.
                                    Thought I was

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                                    • Necroscope
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                                      #78
                                      So never bothering with the Gripen and only having a 64mm Rafale, working canards are a new thing to me.

                                      I will be looking to use a Spektrum 8360T, how do i mix everything in and ensure the AS3X is working as needed?

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                                      • BenOzzy94
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                                        #79
                                        Originally posted by Necroscope
                                        So never bothering with the Gripen and only having a 64mm Rafale, working canards are a new thing to me.

                                        I will be looking to use a Spektrum 8360T, how do i mix everything in and ensure the AS3X is working as needed?

                                        As far as I can see they are saying that you set up the radio as if it was just a normal 4 ch plane, the board does the mixing and I'd leave it at that. I will probably bypass the system myself for flight controls as I don't like roll on canards but seeing as I've started to skim into the unfathomable depths that is Open TX I should be able to custom mix things myself. (A lot more complicate than Spektrum, Much less restrictive when you learn how it works)

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                                        • Necroscope
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                                          #80
                                          Originally posted by BenOzzy94


                                          As far as I can see they are saying that you set up the radio as if it was just a normal 4 ch plane, the board does the mixing and I'd leave it at that. I will probably bypass the system myself for flight controls as I don't like roll on canards but seeing as I've started to skim into the unfathomable depths that is Open TX I should be able to custom mix things myself. (A lot more complicate than Spektrum, Much less restrictive when you learn how it works)
                                          Thanks Ben, i need to read the manual i think. The more i learn, the more i start to see where the cost comes from.

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