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  • BenOzzy94
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    #121
    Mine was the newer tiger version. I sold it on to make space in the apartment and must say i regret it as the guy who bought it is my buddy and i have to watch him fly it now

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    • BenOzzy94
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      #122
      Originally posted by kallend

      I put the FMS edf unit in my Gripen and it is quite acceptable now. For CG issues you can either add the VT unit, or replace the stock nozzles with my "heavy" nozzles (which look better too).

      https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4650359
      I have the heavy nozzle on mine

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      • Alpha10
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        #123
        Can't wait for this... One of the greatest deltas ever made! :)

        Amazing improvements in scale detail and I think the new power system will help offset the added weight over the OG EPS model.

        I was hoping for a little more battery bay width for 12s, but I'm up to the challenge of making something work. ;)

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        • kallend
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          #124
          Originally posted by Alpha10
          Can't wait for this... One of the greatest deltas ever made! :)

          Amazing improvements in scale detail and I think the new power system will help offset the added weight over the OG EPS model.

          I was hoping for a little more battery bay width for 12s, but I'm up to the challenge of making something work. ;)
          I shall run mine stock (at least at first). It will be interesting to compare them, come springtime.

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          • Evan D
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            #125
            That's my plan too. I hope the new fan has decent power.

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            • xviper
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              #126
              I just ordered my 8S from Raymond yesterday. Out of the blue, he sent me an email saying the Eurofighter is now available for pre-order. This was right after 2 of my flying buddies here had just ordered the same. Maybe he decided to invite me to the party, too. For me, the fastest and shortest distance between 2 points is not necessarily a straight line. I've ordered 10 planes from Motion in the past 2 years because I just had to have them NOW. For some reason, this time, Raymond can get me one so much sooner. I pay for shipping from either source.

              Oh, and been reading the thread on RC Guppy and I am NOT hating on Motion just because I bought this from RCC. Besides, Motion has endorsed Raymond on several occasions in the past. I buy from both depending on the conditions at the time.

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              • kallend
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                #127
                Originally posted by xviper
                I just ordered my 8S from Raymond yesterday. Out of the blue, he sent me an email saying the Eurofighter is now available for pre-order. This was right after 2 of my flying buddies here had just ordered the same. Maybe he decided to invite me to the party, too. For me, the fastest and shortest distance between 2 points is not necessarily a straight line. I've ordered 10 planes from Motion in the past 2 years because I just had to have them NOW. For some reason, this time, Raymond can get me one so much sooner. I pay for shipping from either source.

                Oh, and been reading the thread on RC Guppy and I am NOT hating on Motion just because I bought this from RCC. Besides, Motion has endorsed Raymond on several occasions in the past. I buy from both depending on the conditions at the time.
                Raymond quoted $198.60 shipping to Chicago. I can wait until March and free shipping anyway, because the weather here will suck until then, and we're going scuba diving in the "Keys" for the next entire month.

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                • xviper
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by kallend

                  Raymond quoted $198.60 shipping to Chicago. I can wait until March and free shipping anyway, because the weather here will suck until then, and we're going scuba diving in the "Keys" for the next entire month.
                  Yes, that's what I'm paying in Canadian $$$ from RCC. When I order from Motion, my shipping is $137.00 US. However, when I buy from RCC, the price of the plane is a bit cheaper as it hasn't been shipped to N. America yet. In total, after US to CAN conversion, shipping all in, It's $1100.00 vs $970.00. As I say, for those who get free shipping from Motion, there is no advantage buying this from RCC. They've got to REALLY want this plane a few weeks early to pay the extra money. The added bonus for me to buy from RCC is that they allow me to buy in CAN $$, thereby foregoing the currency exchange charge from either PayPal (~2.5%) or my CC company.

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                  • xviper
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                    #129
                    WARNING: Avoid if you are averse to these.
                    Build video from FNRC. Can’t understand anything they say. Skip the first 2.5 minutes and the last 2 minutes. Not much talking in between. I saw a couple things that were interesting. Looks like the exhaust nozzles already have narrower inserts built in. Control surface demo ~2/3rds in. Shows what the switch does and airbrake function, reverse.

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                    • BenOzzy94
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by xviper
                      WARNING: Avoid if you are averse to these.
                      Build video from FNRC. Can’t understand anything they say. Skip the first 2.5 minutes and the last 2 minutes. Not much talking in between. I saw a couple things that were interesting. Looks like the exhaust nozzles already have narrower inserts built in. Control surface demo ~2/3rds in. Shows what the switch does and airbrake function, reverse.

                      well looking through their U-tube channel (even though I don't speak a work of their language )
                      seems they get very early access to a lot of new kit. didn't even know Freewing had developed a Centreburner system. looks very swanky with universal mounts much more streamlined than other solutions and you don't have to stick cable ties into the motor case. Also in the promo stuff for it looks like the display model is the new Eurofighter, makes me wonder were these developed in conjunction?

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                      • Evan D
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                        #131
                        They did an excellent job of showing both assembly and set up along with alignment and how to reverse the surface directions if needed for your radio. I like that the now have allen headed screws. Note the control board is not the "blue box" MCBe. Interesting that they don't score the parts to be glued or touch the parts then separate them before putting them together.

                        The center burner came out last month and even Tom from Motion has mentioned them in threads. They are available now at RCC.

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                        • kallend
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                          #132
                          Originally posted by BenOzzy94

                          Centreburner system. looks very swanky with universal mounts much more streamlined than other solutions
                          I thought it rather poor in that regard. Gooniac's mounts are much more streamlined, as are the mounts from another contributor here. And there don't seem to be any good mounts for bifurcated duct twins with independently lighted tailpipes.

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                          • BenOzzy94
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                            #133
                            They did a pretty thorough job, looks to me like the canards might be plugged into the board individually so that the likes of me and I imagine also Airguardian can plug them into the RX on their own so we can mix out the canards on roll. #scalepolice

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                            • Evan D
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                              #134
                              Yes, they are separately plugged into the board. FW always, or just about always has some type of MCB, multi connection board, whether a blue box or a circuit board. They allow the simple use of a receiver set up as a simple aileron, elevator, rudd, etc program in your radio. They also have some type of ribbon cable output to simplify the wing connections.

                              In almost every case I bypass most if not all of the functions of these MCB's and plug each surface into it's own channel on a high channel count receiver. Usually I'll keep the MCB for lights and retracts. That way I can do the mixing I want. In the case of this I will probably duplicate my Gripens and do air brakes with the canards and have it mixed to the elevons so I can use them in flight, not just on the ground.

                              Here is a video of how I set up my F-22 with individual surfaces and using a 12ch receiver. IMG 1771 - YouTube

                              Here is my Gripen and the airbrakes. This was when I first flew it and since then I have increased my throws, especially my canard throws. FreeWing 80mm Gripen EDF setup - YouTube​​

                              Using the MCB in the Euro will allow people with a simple 7ch TX and RX to have an easy set up on a fairly complicated aircraft.

                              Yes, I'm sure some will choose to not have roll on the canards... Not me.

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                              • xviper
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                                #135
                                Originally posted by Evan D
                                Note the control board is not the "blue box" MCBe.
                                I still marvel at these things. My first encounter with them is in the B-2 bomber. I was amazed that they did all the critical mixing in that device so that it makes it more "goof proof" for so many people to easily set up and fly these models. So far, the B2 has been working as intended, without some of the glitches we saw and still see in some of the "blue boxes". I'm hoping that these new control boards will be problem free. I don't mind mixing things myself, but to just plug a few leads into the RX and be done, is a game changer.

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                                • Airguardian
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                                  #136
                                  Originally posted by kallend
                                  And there don't seem to be any good mounts for bifurcated duct twins with independently lighted tailpipes.
                                  The Lightburner made those bifurcated Y-layout centerburners, I have one unit on my F-18 but Ran is no longer around, rest in peace.

                                  Originally posted by BenOzzy94
                                  the canards might be plugged into the board individually so that the likes of me and I imagine also Airguardian can plug them into the RX on their own so we can mix out the canards on roll. #scalepolice
                                  Indeed I will!

                                  Originally posted by Evan D
                                  Yes, I'm sure some will choose to not have roll on the canards... Not me.
                                  You blasphemous heretic!


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                                  • kallend
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                                    #137
                                    Originally posted by Airguardian

                                    The Lightburner made those bifurcated Y-layout centerburners, I have one unit on my F-18 but Ran is no longer around, rest in peace.



                                    Ran and Gooniac motivated me to design my DIY system.

                                    I already have them designed for the V3 EF 6S unit. I don't make them though, I post the designs on Thingiverse for free download.

                                    (Not directed specifically at you: if you don't have a 3D printer you are missing out on a lot.)

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                                    • Quickstop
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                                      #138
                                      Originally posted by BenOzzy94

                                      well looking through their U-tube channel (even though I don't speak a work of their language )
                                      seems they get very early access to a lot of new kit. didn't even know Freewing had developed a Centreburner system. looks very swanky with universal mounts much more streamlined than other solutions and you don't have to stick cable ties into the motor case. Also in the promo stuff for it looks like the display model is the new Eurofighter, makes me wonder were these developed in conjunction?
                                      To me this looks like it was shot at Freewing and posted by FNRC, set is different as are the people

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                                      • Tonio62
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                                        #139
                                        I hope to be able to fly with my 4000mah graphene which weighs 640g (+60g of telemetry sensor). Without the armament I think I could glean some flight time ;)
                                        For now I was only flying with 80mm jets, and will test before investing in 5000mah ....

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                                        • xviper
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                                          #140
                                          Originally posted by Tonio62
                                          I hope to be able to fly with my 4000mah graphene which weighs 640g (+60g of telemetry sensor). Without the armament I think I could glean some flight time ;)
                                          For now I was only flying with 80mm jets, and will test before investing in 5000mah ....
                                          Are you talking about the 8s version? If so, you’ll need 2 batteries. 2 X 4000mah,4S might get you 3 to 4 minutes, depending on how your fly.
                                          If you’re talking about the 6S version, the recommended battery is 5000 to 6000mah, 6S. Also depending on how you fly, you might get 3 minutes (maybe less) on a 4000mah. These new EDFs seem to have more claimed static thrust, which to me, would indicate more energy needed. This is also NOT a light airplane. Furthermore, a typical 5000 to 6000 battery weighs in around 800g to over 900g. You may have some difficulty balancing it without some added weight.

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