Official Freewing 80mm Avanti S Sport Jet Thread

TBeghtol replied

Mar 23, 2021, 06:26 PM
Best overall power system?

As this model has been out and flown with many different power systems (out runner, in runner, 9-12 blade)
what is the consensus on the best overall style of motor and number of blades for general sport and mild aerobatic flying?

Considerations are thrust, longevity of motor, efficiency, and battery consumption.
Top speed is not a consideration.

Thanks in advance.
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kallend replied

Mar 23, 2021, 09:24 AM
"I could not find the FMS system recommended above to buy in the states (except on Amazon where they wanted $200)"

That is a rip-off.

I got all mine from RC-Castle. Delivery is generally less than 2 weeks. I have them in my Avanti, Mirage 2000, EFlite F-4, and Gripen.

https://www.rc-castle.com/index.php?...roduct_id=8142

A distinct performance improvement over the Freewing unit.
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kallend replied

Mar 23, 2021, 09:23 AM
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paulrkytek replied

Mar 23, 2021, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by Scott Page View Post

It would seem that way however I changed plans for the green Avanti once things progressed. I'd purchased the Afterburner for my red Avanti that I started with. I'd planned to put that airframe to an early retirement and move the power system to the ARF+ I'm painting green. However as things progressed well with the Green Avanti I decided to purchase an additional power system and have both a functional red and the new green. I ordered a Castle Phoenix Edge 100A ESC and Freewing 80mm 9-Blade EDF Power System w/3658-1920kV Inrunner Motor. I could not find the FMS system recommended above to buy in the states (except on Amazon where they wanted $200) - so I guess this will be close to the stock fan/motor with a premium(ish) ESC.

Making slow progress - nearly finished the wings today - however I'm not happy with the way the chrome pinstriping looks in the curves. It puckers.

Scott have you considered using A4 self adhesive signwriters vinyl sheets( Ebay ) in gold or copper to compliment the green they are about $2 a sheet
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Scott Page replied

Mar 23, 2021, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by kallend View Post

That seems a bit like putting the cart in front of the horse.

It would seem that way however I changed plans for the green Avanti once things progressed. I'd purchased the Afterburner for my red Avanti that I started with. I'd planned to put that airframe to an early retirement and move the power system to the ARF+ I'm painting green. However as things progressed well with the Green Avanti I decided to purchase an additional power system and have both a functional red and the new green. I ordered a Castle Phoenix Edge 100A ESC and Freewing 80mm 9-Blade EDF Power System w/3658-1920kV Inrunner Motor. I could not find the FMS system recommended above to buy in the states (except on Amazon where they wanted $200) - so I guess this will be close to the stock fan/motor with a premium(ish) ESC.

Making slow progress - nearly finished the wings today - however I'm not happy with the way the chrome pinstriping looks in the curves. It puckers.
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kallend replied

Mar 22, 2021, 08:45 AM
Ten different styles of 3D printable exhaust nozzles for the Avanti:

18 Nozzles for Freewing Avanti S (80mm) by kallend

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4785745

The rear of the FW Avanti S looks unfinished. Here is a set of nozzles for the 80mm Avanti S, in a variety of styles from civilian noise abatement to MiG to F-4 to f-15, F-16, variable geometry to F-35 stealth, and fantasy.Print parameters are not important - choose infill and wall thickness according to weight needs.
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kallend replied

Mar 22, 2021, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by Scott Page View Post

I would like to put a better than stock power system in this and would appreciate recommendations. I want it to be a 32mm inrunner and 6S setup. The reason for the 32mm inrunner is I bought a afterburner setup for it.

That seems a bit like putting the cart in front of the horse.

When you make your own afterburner you can customize it to any motor you like. See my blog:

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3313547-Make-your-own-flickering-EDF-afterburner

And I have posted dozens of adapters for different motors on Thingiverse:

Adapters for EDF afterburner lamps by kallend

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4042564

These are mounts to attach LED lamps to various EDF fan motors. The file names describe which ones. The 90mm_39 dual mount is customized for the Freewing Eurofighter with the 39mm inrunner motor, the 80mm dual is for the E Eflite F-4 Phantom and the 70mm dual is for the FMS F/A-18, although they should fit other twin tailpipe models with the same motors. The adapter "Short_Dual_FMS..." fits the FMS Rafale which has very limited space behind the motor..Most of the adapters are clamped to inrunners using a cable tie. If it says "screwon" then it is specifically for the Freewing 29mm or 36mm inrunner motors, and is less bulky (so recommended for lower drag).)If a spec looks like 90_40mm it means a 90mm fan with a 40mm inrunner motor, etc..With the exception of the special B-1B adapters (see below) if a file contains "screwon", V2", "V3" or "V4" in its filename it is specifically for the lamp listed here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R3Z1K3B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 These are only $2 each if a 10-pack is purchased, and they are very bright.Otherwise they are for the lamps listed in the following article:https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3313547-Making-an-inexpensive-EDF-centerburner for details.Make sure lamps and adapters are securely attached and that all wiring is secured so it can't get sucked into the fan. I have added a small converter so that the different lamps in the link below can be used with the earlier adapters. You will need to remove the yellow plastic part and glue the bulb to the converter, which then fits the EDF adapter.https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07R3Z1K3B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1The adapter "Dual Flickr 70_30mm V2 FMS PRO inrunner.stl" is for a single 70mm fan with 30mm motor and with twin exhausts (FMS F/A-18) and has a divider between the lamps so they can flicker independently without bleeding too much into the other tailpipe.The ArrowsRC Mig29 and F-15 adapters do NOT fit onto the EDF motor. It goes in the tailpipe 1mm behind the motor - see the blog description. There is a spacer that can be used to precisely locate the adapter 1mm behind the motor - remove after attaching the adapter in the tailpipe.The 64mm F-16 adapter was created by Martin T and is described here:https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showpost.php?p=45701171&postcount=331 The 70-30 B-1B adapters are for the XFly (Banana Hobbies) B-1B. The motor wires exit slightly to the side, so the hole in the adapter is offset to suit and you will need to make right and left handed versions It also is designed for the narrow LED lamps to minimize obstruction to the airflow in the narrow exhaust ducts. It is also short due to the limited space behind the motor. There are three slightly different versions.
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hirth90 replied

Mar 22, 2021, 03:47 AM
Forgot to add the following link regarding an upgraded power unit. This guy has it to the max

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REJ6...efmCh&index=45
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hirth90 replied

Mar 22, 2021, 03:43 AM
Ive used both acyrlic paint and iron on Oracover film on EPO foam models and definitly recomend the fillm over paint. The finish is much better and it adds protection to the foam making the model look as though it is a composite model. The 2 you tube clips below will help. Start with you iron on low temperature setting and gradualy increase until you find the 'sweet spot' where the adhesive melts but the film retains its gloss finish. Don't worry the EPO is very temperature resistant. Good luck with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH7DdKcAIAQ&list=PLPwyGaHDy-YH3DaWiAMR7ahJbUypefmCh&index=61

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9-WOhghkhk
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T-CAT replied

Mar 21, 2021, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Scott Page View Post

I posted awhile ago that I wanted a green Avanti. I'm good with Photoshop, but have no experience changing the color of a foam model for real, but concluded that if I wanted a green Avanti it was up to me. I bought a yellow ARF+ and commenced to learning. I opted to use Liquitex fluorescent green rattle can and I'm cutting my own vinyl. I've finished the vertical stab. Have two wings painted, now doing graphics.
I would like to put a better than stock power system in this and would appreciate recommendations. I want it to be a 32mm inrunner and 6S setup. The reason for the 32mm inrunner is I bought a afterburner setup for it.

Good job, Scott. The green color looks nice.

If you want a different EDF and Motor that fits your preferences, then take a look at purchasing the FMS 80mm 12-Blade with 2100kv Inrunner motor (32mm diameter). As for an ESC, a Hobbywing 100A will suffice and is the common ESC brand Freewing tends to use on their PNP jets. Keep in mind though that the FMS EDF/Motor above can push the limits of that 100A ESC (FMS tends to use 100A ESC’s with the power system mentioned), so smart throttle use is beneficial, keep the ESC in the stock location on this aircraft for good airflow, and then determine whether you want to use an internal BEC or external BEC as your preference.
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Scott Page replied

Mar 21, 2021, 12:15 AM
I posted awhile ago that I wanted a green Avanti. I'm good with Photoshop, but have no experience changing the color of a foam model for real, but concluded that if I wanted a green Avanti it was up to me. I bought a yellow ARF+ and commenced to learning. I opted to use Liquitex fluorescent green rattle can and I'm cutting my own vinyl. I've finished the vertical stab. Have two wings painted, now doing graphics.
I would like to put a better than stock power system in this and would appreciate recommendations. I want it to be a 32mm inrunner and 6S setup. The reason for the 32mm inrunner is I bought a afterburner setup for it.
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wildnloose replied

Mar 13, 2021, 08:57 AM
Here is one...

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3841685-ABS-Nose-gear-braces-Freewing-FMS-E-flite-Flightline
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Low ‘n Slow replied

Mar 13, 2021, 08:42 AM
Gents,

how do I get the nose gear mod? I was watching YouTube and came across it. Looks like a small plate that doesn’t allow the nose gear to go back too far.

Thank you.
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kallend replied

Mar 8, 2021, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by kallend View Post

A variety of 3D printable nozzles for the Avanti S.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4785745

Added another two.
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kallend replied

Mar 6, 2021, 10:23 AM
A variety of 3D printable nozzles for the Avanti S.

18 Nozzles for Freewing Avanti S (80mm) by kallend

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4785745

The rear of the FW Avanti S looks unfinished. Here is a set of nozzles for the 80mm Avanti S, in a variety of styles from civilian noise abatement to MiG to F-4 to f-15, F-16, variable geometry to F-35 stealth, and fantasy.Print parameters are not important - choose infill and wall thickness according to weight needs.
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Scott Page replied

Mar 5, 2021, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by Gringotuerto View Post

Here is a link to one option. I ordered for the Avanti and found that the first one I ordered didn't fit, so make sure you get the right one. I think the right one is 36mm, not 32mm, but it is probably best to measure.

The CenterBurner Simulated Afterburner | The RC Geek

https://thercgeek.com/the-centerburner/

The original CenterBurner line of simulated afterburner lighting systems is the world’s best and most trusted simulated afterburner lighting system! Designed around a custom built LED light boards, it provides a center "glow" and flame effect like a full size jet aircraft afterburner!

Thanks for posting that link and info. I now have a center burner on the way for my Avanti.
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wildnloose replied

Mar 4, 2021, 08:23 AM
I like that color, but I like my red more. But it gives me something to think about for the next one (yeah, there will be another one when this one dies).
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Scott Page replied

Mar 2, 2021, 11:31 PM
I've got 10 flights on my new Avanti. Last flight was a follow the leader with 3 other Avanti's from take off (simultaneously) to landing. It was a hoot and I'm sure we'll do more of that. But with all the Avanti's at clubs -- it sure would be nice to have a livery with a different (or two) colors. I use photoshop to play with some options and think optic green would be awesome.
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wildnloose replied

Feb 17, 2021, 09:46 AM
I used to think that I wanted one of these,.then I found myself not wanting anything to take away from performance (no matter how little). But I do like my tailcone (mine is the Red Avanti, painted tailcone black).

https://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3818645-Freewing-Avanti-S-80mm-Nozzle-With-bonus
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Griffon Wings replied

Feb 14, 2021, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by Hugh Wiedman View Post

I have the RC Geek in all my EDF'S except the A10. When you order, send in the comment section to Chris exactly the fan you have, inrunner 80 mm so if you pick the wrong one he will correct it. The fans in the Avanti have changed several times so be specific. Also, I suggest you line the nozzle with highly reflective paint or better yet A/C aluminum foil tape.

Same here Hugh, AB always from Chris, super nice guy ever and the products works great all the time. Never had a single problem, not on single or twin motor. On the bad side, now i can’t have a jet without. .
thank you Rc geek
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